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  1. plindboe wrote
    I've always felt that singer overdid it, just a tad. wink I much prefer the rest of the score, the instrumental versions of that main theme are incredibly butt-kicking.

    Peter smile


    Oh, she overdoes it for sure. But isn't that the spirit of those spaghetti western songs? I can't think of a single one that held back. wink
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
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      CommentAuthorplindboe
    • CommentTimeJan 23rd 2008
    Bregt wrote
    Seems like the music is the element for which the movies are still most known then.
    Never heard any of these scores i think.


    Just found a couple of nice utube clips that illustrates Morricone's giallo music perfectly.

    First listen to this gem of a theme; "Lullaby in blue" from "Cat o nine tails". It's calming, gorgeous, catchy and just a thoroughly fab listen.

    The rest of his giallos usually consist of music like this: "Emmetrentatre" from "La corta notte delle bambole di vetro". The music is erotic, bizarre and damn frightening to listen to. I think it's a brilliant track though; the orgasmic moaning, the increasing beat and schizophrenic sounding piano and strings, combined with those completely bizarre sound effects. Just imagine how it must work in the movie. That said, it's not really something one wants to sit and listen to for an entire album.

    Peter smile
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeJan 23rd 2008
    plindboe wrote

    The rest of his giallos usually consist of music like this: "Emmetrentatre" from "La corta notte delle bambole di vetro". The music is erotic, bizarre and damn frightening to listen to. I think it's a brilliant track though; the orgasmic moaning, the increasing beat and schizophrenic sounding piano and strings, combined with those completely bizarre sound effects. Just imagine how it must work in the movie. That said, it's not really something one wants to sit and listen to for an entire album.
    Peter smile


    That's right. It's a bit reminiscent of Williams' IMAGES, I guess, but somehow I like Williams' abstract textures more. Morricone's dissonance simply drives me insane!
    I am extremely serious.
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      CommentAuthorplindboe
    • CommentTimeJan 23rd 2008
    I think it's meant to. wink

    You gotta admit it's effective though. Not a pleasant listen I certainly agree, but it must be pure nail-biting scariness when combined with the images.

    I would love to have been a fly on the wall when they created this music, it must have been quite a spectacle. Several women moaning in orgasmic agony, the violinists torturing their poor instruments, and "musicians" making innovative sound effects using everyday items.

    Peter smile
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      CommentAuthorplindboe
    • CommentTimeJan 23rd 2008
    Found the trailer for that giallo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6ln03EKyLY

    Peter smile
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      CommentAuthorBregt
    • CommentTimeJan 23rd 2008
    Thx for those clips Peter!

    That orgasmic music is indeed not very listenable but certainly scary. I can only assume this took different takes to record. wink
    Kazoo
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      CommentAuthorplindboe
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2008
    Water cannon at Morricone concert:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfyYk0VkX-c&NR=1

    Peter smile
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      CommentAuthorBhelPuri
    • CommentTimeMar 19th 2008
    That's crazy! Were the tickets to the concert free?
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeMar 19th 2008 edited
    BhelPuri wrote
    That's crazy! Were the tickets to the concert free?


    Yes, I think I heard the word "gratis" in there, although I don't speak Spanish. In what city was this?

    It's pretty crazy to see these things on a Morricone concert!?! It's something you expect on a Michael Jackson gig or something. But I guess it says something about how legendary he is right now!
    I am extremely serious.
  2. For those of us who have access to Sky TV, on 1st April there's a "Morricone Conducts Morricone" on the Sky Arts channel (Sky 267), at 10:50pm.
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      CommentAuthorbartley
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2008
    Wow. I am so behind ... I mean, I just got the Yo Yo Ma/ Morricone CD...
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2008
    bartley wrote
    Wow. I am so behind ... I mean, I just got the Yo Yo Ma/ Morricone CD...


    you like that? it is awesome!
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorbartley
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2008
    Well -- I didn't say I liked it. It's good. My issue is that having the original motion picture soundtracks for the Good the Bad and the Ugly and also Once Upon a Time in the West... and comparing the two... I found it a little lacking. But I did enjoy it.... you have Morricone's
    music, and Yo Yo Ma's virtuosity all in one. Quite good for a coverage of the music of Morricone.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2008
    bartley wrote
    Well -- I didn't say I liked it. It's good. My issue is that having the original motion picture soundtracks for the Good the Bad and the Ugly and also Once Upon a Time in the West... and comparing the two... I found it a little lacking. But I did enjoy it.... you have Morricone's
    music, and Yo Yo Ma's virtuosity all in one. Quite good for a coverage of the music of Morricone.


    I think it's a fantastic album exquisitely played. Better than just a straight "covers" album.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorbartley
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2008
    Well, when you say "cover" album you refer to the Original MP Soundtracks?
    If so, I enjoy hearing exactly what was on the screen... this is one of those
    cases.
    However, that aside, it's very good. A great "redo" of Morricone's things. I
    like how he had a Suite for different directors. And the Once Upon a Time in the West
    theme was really well arranged ... I listened to the original back to back with it
    and it's a great job all round.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2008
    On the morricone and yo-yo ma album, i liked several of those new arrangements even more than the originals.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
    • CommentAuthorJoep
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2008
    I once read an interview wherein Morricone mentioned why he broke his bond with Bruno Nicolai. He said he had done something that he and others could never forgive him for. Does anyone know anything more about this?
  3. He described Ennio Morricone as 'the Italian John Williams'. wink

    And we're talking the early 70s here - bad call Nicolai!
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
    • CommentAuthorJoep
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2008
    Sigh

    Or referred to one of their projects as a 'spaghetti western''. Morricone dislikes someone calling them like that.
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      CommentAuthorplindboe
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2008
    All I know is that it occured under the "Mosé" session, and that Morricone was so pissed that he didn't even attend Nicolai's funeral 17 years later. Very sad that such a thing can happen between two long time collaborators and friends.

    Peter smile
  4. Maybe he publicly supported a conservative party in one of Italy's famously wild elections? (Mind you, given Morricone scored IL CUORE NEL POZZO, you wouldn't think conservatism would be a problem with him.)
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2008
    bartley wrote
    I just got the Yo Yo Ma/ Morricone CD...


    I think this is the best kind of film music compilation - re-imagining the music, presenting it in a new way, the composer expressing himself differently but retaining the spirit of the original. Terrific album.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2008
    Southall wrote
    bartley wrote
    I just got the Yo Yo Ma/ Morricone CD...


    I think this is the best kind of film music compilation - re-imagining the music, presenting it in a new way, the composer expressing himself differently but retaining the spirit of the original. Terrific album.


    Exactly!

    You have a much better way with words than I do James.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorplindboe
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2008
    Someone posted these clips on the FSM board. It's Morricone's rejected, but absolutely gorgeous, score to "What dreams may come" playing with the actual scenes the music was composed for. Seeing how his score works in this cheesy, but visually stunning movie is a dream come true for me. A few of them seem a bit misplaced/out of synch though.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S22w1r4LZI (part 1)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlCBUuqIHRs (part 2)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUGnqSsLnpQ (part 3)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vhYNkxzYSo (part 4)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fkh0fAiHpDM (part 5)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZrP7xzpbUA (part 6)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9--YhX3Aty4 (part 7)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zno7UyKs2J8 (part 8)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtsBDqX-3KA (part 9)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUiX14l9Llo (part 10)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KEC566VZvg (part 11)

    Peter punk
  5. It's interesting to see those scenes. I wonder how the person who put them up knew where the music was meant to go?

    Cue 1 is perfect for the scene where they're talking on the grass (much better than the Kamen cue), and the subsequent wedding. I can see the executive who reached for their pen when the soprano came in a bit later. That's pretty full-on, however beautiful.

    Some of the music for the hell scenes feels a bit emotionally light. That scene with the grounded ships covered in flames and dead bodies was scored more menacingly in Kamen's version, and I think it was an appropriate choice.

    Sadly all this does affirm something that is a relative constant throughout the history of film scoring: fortunate indeed is the composer who can get away with putting a very idiosyncratic score into a high-budgeted film. There are many, including Ennio Morricone, who don't get away with it.

    Seeing these clips reminds me of one of this film's biggest problems. Robin Williams is swirling in the waters of hell, tormented by memories of the worst moments of his life, and what he sees in his mind is a beautifully-lit wide shot of a street lined with the most gorgeous purple wisteria flowers? It may have been the last time he saw his children, but it looks more like he stepped into a beautiful painting.
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2008
    Where's Southall? he wants Ennio Morricone's rejected "what dreams may come" to have his babies!
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
  6. He's since fallen in love with a very fetching goat .




    wink
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2008
    franz_conrad wrote

    wink



    What is this!? WHAT IS THIS!?


    (wink)
    • CommentAuthorJoep
    • CommentTimeMar 28th 2008
    The opening is spot on. I like them all very much anyways. Both composers score left me speechless, but I do see part of the reason why they rejected Morricone's. Some parts should have been slightly lighter, judged from that 'promo' score.
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      CommentAuthorplindboe
    • CommentTimeMar 28th 2008
    franz_conrad wrote
    It's interesting to see those scenes. I wonder how the person who put them up knew where the music was meant to go?


    I think the geek who did this probably guessed where the music should be placed, rather than having any inside knowledge. I think he was right with some of the clips, like 1, 3, 4, 5, 8, 10 and 11, though some are 1-2 seconds out of synch. But some of the others I have doubts about; like you, I found the music for the burning ship scene poorly placed and I can't believe Morricone would have scored it that way.

    Seeing these scenes again also reminded me of a big problem with the flick. Since no one can escape Hell (Annie being the only exception), and since the people in Heaven can choose to be reborn whenever they want and thereby run the risk of ending up in Hell, then logically all souls would end up in Hell sooner or later.

    Peter smile