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iTunes: Trials and Tribulations

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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeMar 23rd 2009
    I can most heartily recommend that route, Tom.

    Erik knows exactly what he's talking about, and his didactic capabilities are quite impressive!
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeMar 23rd 2009
    yikes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    listen to more classical music!
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeMar 24th 2009
    No wonder older people sometimes just throw their hands up in the air and give up as far as some of this computer stuff is concerned! I think I finally figured out that in order to get the material into the ipod I had to first put it in the library first. The program, Media Monkey, wouldn't recognize my external hard drive which is where all of the folders (mostly mmm) were being stored. I brought one program MY DOCUMENTS which it does recognize and it promptly copied my entire 'C'' Drive. I can't use itunes 8.1 because my ram isn't nearly enough to handle it. I tried to download an older version of itunes and it won't work. Winamp has now made itself my home page which of course I don't want. I give up.
    Thomas
    listen to more classical music!
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeMar 24th 2009
    The way my mind works is that this ipod is just a hard drive so why can't I just plug the thing into a usb and transfer what I want into it. When I got the external hard drive it was that easy.
    Thomas
    listen to more classical music!
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeMar 24th 2009
    You're right and to my mind it should indeed be that simple...but unfortunately, it's not, at least not with an Apple iPod.

    There's just no two ways about it. You MUST get an interface program, and if iTunes is out of the question, an alternative needs to be found.

    I can't help from experience (as I still use iTunes), but have a look through this list and see if anything strikes your fancy.

    Floola, so I'm told, is by far the best, BUT still requires at least ONE action from iTunes, so that's out.
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeMar 24th 2009
    Thanks Martijn. For some reason the program media monkey or winamp is just not recognizing the device.
    listen to more classical music!
  7. sdtom wrote
    Thanks Martijn. For some reason the program media monkey or winamp is just not recognizing the device.

    Are you sure Tom?

    I've had a read around and it seems that you need to have iTunes installed on your PC - some components of iTunes are required for MediaMonkey to recognise some iPods.

    There does seem to be a workaround to have your iPod recognised by MediaMonkey without installing iTunes but it seems to be quite complicated:

    http://www.mediamonkey.com/forum/viewto … p;p=173143 (final entry)
    The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeMar 25th 2009
    I have solved part of the nightmare!!! I can put stuff in the ipod although everything goes into one place and I've no idea what it is. ex...mahler #6 is track 1-4. thats it. i'm sure i'll figure it out
    thomas
    listen to more classical music!
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeMar 25th 2009
    sdtom wrote
    I have solved part of the nightmare!!! I can put stuff in the ipod although everything goes into one place and I've no idea what it is. ex...mahler #6 is track 1-4. thats it. i'm sure i'll figure it out
    thomas


    Come again?
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeMar 25th 2009 edited
    One essential aspect to effectively using an MP3 player is to properly tag your MP3 files so you'll be able to distinguish them on your iPod.

    This is not the same as simply "renaming" the file on your computer (rightclick - 'rename'): you actually have to tag your file. That tag is what the player reads and sees as the file's name.

    You can use a number of freeware programs to tag your MP3s, or just use Winamp.
    Not sure if Windows Media Player can do the same.

    What a shame you're unable to run iTunes.
    For all its myriad problems, tagging is a feauture that is very easy and instinctive there.
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeMar 25th 2009
    I'm doing something wrong
    Thomas
    listen to more classical music!
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeMar 25th 2009
    The stuff goes on automatically from the my music folder. there is a book i can download and read
    listen to more classical music!
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeMar 25th 2009
    Whatever goes from or to your My Music folder has nothing to do with the need to properly tag your files (whether you take an SUV or a bicycle to your local library has no influence on their categorisation system).

    As long as you make sure your files are properly tagged, the war is as good as won (though I'm sure there'll be a battle or two still on the horizon).
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
  14. Tom, I find MediaMonkey really good at tagging my music files (either individually or as groups of tracks).
    The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2009
    At this point I'm putting the whole thing on hold.
    listen to more classical music!
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2009
    And manufacturers wonder why the older generation balks.
    listen to more classical music!
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2009
    I made good use of the ipod on my current trip, but I had problems with the battery capacity, basically limiting my use to the flight down and a certain bus trip in Cambodia. That's it. Is there a way to charge batteries that does not include plugging it to my laptop?
    I am extremely serious.
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2009
    sdtom wrote
    And manufacturers wonder why the older generation balks.


    You aren't doing your research. Do some reading on the subject.

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2009
    Thor wrote
    Is there a way to charge batteries that does not include plugging it to my laptop?


    Ummmm... of course! You mean that the iPod didn't come with a charger or a dock?

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2009
    Erik Woods wrote
    Thor wrote
    Is there a way to charge batteries that does not include plugging it to my laptop?


    Ummmm... of course! You mean that the iPod didn't come with a charger or a dock?

    -Erik-


    That's right. It didn't. Hmmm...I'll have to check into this.
    I am extremely serious.
  21. What model?
    http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2009
    Erik Woods wrote
    sdtom wrote
    And manufacturers wonder why the older generation balks.


    You aren't doing your research. Do some reading on the subject.

    -Erik-


    Gotta agree with Erik here.
    I quite literally spent weeks researching and reading up on what an iPod is and how it works before I bought it (and even then I needed Erik's help on some of the finer details of organizing files in iTunes).
    This ISN'T plug and play.
    You HAVE to do your homework, old and young alike.

    Thor wrote
    Erik Woods wrote
    Thor wrote
    Is there a way to charge batteries that does not include plugging it to my laptop?


    Ummmm... of course! You mean that the iPod didn't come with a charger or a dock?

    -Erik-


    That's right. It didn't. Hmmm...I'll have to check into this.


    About 25-30 Euros. Cheaper if not from Apple proper (I think Belkin does one).
    I got mine at the same time I bought my iPod (as far as I know these aren't actually sold in bundle. At least not in Europe) as I saw the proprietary battery as a serious problem even back then. I even found a gadget now where you use a similar charger except now with a cannister of penlight batteries! So you can charge your iPod using classic penlights.
    Brilliant!
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2009
    I don't own one and have never experienced one. But what is that you say that justifies all the trouble and its complexity? What sets it apart the rest of the market?
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2009
    In my case: 160 GB hard disk.
    C'est tout.
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2009
    And why does it have to be so complex? Does the amount of gigabytes NEEDS to be escorted by complexity? Or does it justify it?
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2009 edited
    Christodoulides wrote
    I don't own one and have never experienced one. But what is that you say that justifies all the trouble and its complexity? What sets it apart the rest of the market?


    Yes, you obviously haven't had one since I've never had any troubles or experienced any complexities with my iPod Nano. And I've have it for more than three years now! It's served me brilliantly and I have no need to get a new one, and I probably won't get a new one for quite a long time. It's compact, long battery life, I can control it from my pocket and it's simple to use... and it's reliable!

    Can't quite understand why you're so anti-iPod. It's just a product. A decent one at that.
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2009 edited
    Christodoulides wrote
    And why does it have to be so complex? Does the amount of gigabytes NEEDS to be escorted by complexity? Or does it justify it?


    <shrug>

    In my case: 160 GB hard disk.
    C'est tout.

    Seriously. Bigger is better.

    At the time there was one other player that also carried a 160 GB hard disk, but according to all reviews it was completely optimised as a portable movie player. Everything I read about it stated that the music handling side of things was quite poor.

    So the choice was really easy for me.

    EDIT: And honestly I don't think it's all that complex.
    It's just another tool to learn and if you know it, you can make it sit up, beg and roll over.
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2009
    In my case, it was the physical-size-to-disk-space ratio, the click-wheel control and the design of the Nano that I liked.

    Simple.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2009 edited
    I am not anti-ipod. I am asking users who already have it and experienced it, why a friggin' mp3 player has to have so many devoted pages to it in order to understand how it works? I just don't get it, that's why i am asking.

    And to clarify, i think apple makes very good stuff and i don't think anyone can logically argue against that. The only thing i have against apple is their elitism against other companies and software and the stupid snobbyism of certain apple users, which of course might not be the fault of the company. But It's a friggin computer. It's an mp3 player. It's a laptop. Get over it.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2009 edited
    Christodoulides wrote
    I am not anti-ipod. I am asking users who already have it and experienced it, why a friggin' mp3 player has to have so much devoted pages to it in order to understand how it works? I just don't get it, that's why i am asking.


    I'm not sure, but I think it may be more (or easier) "understandable" to Apple users?
    To me the iTunes interface simply isn't very intuitive at first (although the iPod proper really is, as long as you understand your MP3 basics - the aforementioned need for tagging and all, which is by no means unique to iPod as a necessity for files to be handled properly)
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn

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