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  1. I'll just ask if somebody read C. Wright Mills' The Sociological Imagination.
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      CommentAuthorHeeroJF
    • CommentTimeDec 7th 2008
    PawelStroinski wrote
    I decided to bump this thread. I will have soon a subject to discuss with people interested in sociology.

    Whether people are interested or not in sociology is a very interesting sociological concept in itself.
    ''The mandate, as well as the benefit, of responsibility is the ability to tell when one can afford to be irresponsible.'' - Me
  2. Come to think of it, right bunny
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeDec 7th 2008
    There are people that fine sociology uninteresting? Philistines!
    It's such a fascinating subject.
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      CommentAuthorHeeroJF
    • CommentTimeDec 7th 2008
    I've never been to Philistine.

    Is it nice there?
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeDec 7th 2008
    Not since the Romans decided to visit.
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      CommentAuthorHeeroJF
    • CommentTimeDec 7th 2008
    Oh dear...

    Really, what have the Romans done for us?
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      CommentAuthorBregje
    • CommentTimeDec 7th 2008 edited
    Heh, speaking of Romans, I'm reading this book called Overwhelmed by the Vesuvius - Pompeii in 1000 graffiti. It's so funny and entertaining! The introduction is already interesting because it explains how these original texts had not been published by classicists for a long time because it didn't fit the civilized image they had of Roman culture (pfff, snobs). What happened is that because of the Vesuvius graffiti made by plebs was conserved, has been roganized and is all there for us to read. It is so recognizable and as rude and vulgair as it would be nowadays of course. I think it's great read, I mean this is really a look into daily life, regular people instead of just reading texts by philosophers, writers, politicians etc. I'm enjoying it a lot. It's also interesting to compare abusive words. There are many many references to 'cunnilinction' which is interpreted not as a sexual reference but rather an abusive word for someone who would be called a looser or an asshole or something like that. Then there are also many references to homosexuality of course. And many other messages, greetings to other people or quotes from literature. Kudos to Vincent Hunink for the way he compiled this book. All texts refer to their code in the Corpus Inscriptionum Latinarum (CIL) and are organized by location. So you could walk around the ruins in Pompeii with this book in your hand and read in that order. Each text is followed by the exact location, building or even room as well. Really neat. I'll see if I can write some down in English.
  3. Steven wrote
    There are people that fine sociology uninteresting? Philistines!
    It's such a fascinating subject.


    Indeed it is fascinating and I am discovering it right now, by finishing Mills' The Sociological Imagination. Definitely will read more.
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  4. Steven, did you learn Statistics on the uni?
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeDec 8th 2008
    40% of students do.
    37% of students don't.
    25% of students did, but weren't paying attention.
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  5. biggrin

    Are you one of them then?
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeDec 8th 2008
    PawelStroinski wrote
    Steven wrote
    There are people that fine sociology uninteresting? Philistines!
    It's such a fascinating subject.


    Indeed it is fascinating and I am discovering it right now, by finishing Mills' The Sociological Imagination. Definitely will read more.


    And of course you're familiar with other classics, like Goffman's "The Presentation of Self in Everyday Life" or Giddens' "Modernity and Self-Identity. Self and Society in the Late Modern Age"? The late Roger Silverstone is pretty interesting, too, especially his application of sociological theory on contemporary media texts, such as television. "Television and Everyday Life", for example.
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  6. I read the Goffman. Next thing will be Simmel, Merton and indeed Giddens.

    I am a literature scholar and just started my interest in sociology, actually after Goffman.
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeDec 8th 2008
    Oh, I thought you were sociology student. My bad!

    Anyways, as long as you stay away from Bordieu, you'll be fine! smile

    (not really, he's very interesting, but probably has some of the most complex sentences I've seen this side of Habermas....we're talking sentences that go on for half a page here!).
    I am extremely serious.
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      CommentAuthorHeeroJF
    • CommentTimeDec 8th 2008 edited
    Bregje wrote
    Heh, speaking of Romans, I'm reading this book called Overwhelmed by the Vesuvius - Pompeii in 1000 graffiti.

    That does sound like such a fascinating book!!! They say "history is written by the winners" but there's a rather obvious corollary to this that people tend to overlook. It's that "history is written by the writers!"

    Unless you wrote an important work of literature, then your thoughts aren't gonna go down in history. If you're just a peasant or a random citizen, your opinion is lost to the ages. (of course, the advent of internet blogging is changing all that, so watch out! wink )

    The general populace's opinion never gets recorded! I find this outlook into the everyday man absolutely riveting. Perhaps I should look into that book.
    ''The mandate, as well as the benefit, of responsibility is the ability to tell when one can afford to be irresponsible.'' - Me
  7. Thor wrote
    Oh, I thought you were sociology student. My bad!

    Anyways, as long as you stay away from Bordieu, you'll be fine! smile

    (not really, he's very interesting, but probably has some of the most complex sentences I've seen this side of Habermas....we're talking sentences that go on for half a page here!).


    Man, I read Reproduction biggrin
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  8. Are you a sociologist, Thor?
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeDec 9th 2008
    No, I'm a Humanities guy, first and foremost, but since media studies is such a cross-disciplinary field, I've encountered sociological texts many times, in many different circumstances.
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  9. Cool. Did you deal with statistics? I guess as a media guy you had to deal with McLuhan too?
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeDec 9th 2008
    No, not too much statistics beyond some basic quantitive methodology while I was doing my bachelor's. McLuhan is of course a "usual suspect" in our circles. The whole "global village" thing has been a point-of-departure for many other sociocultural theories, including Media Event theory.
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  10. Oh yes, I can imagine that. The Gutenberg galaxy and Global Village. The guy had a knack for these terms. I wonder what should I read next. Simmel or Merton. I think of Merton, actually.

    And I DO plan to read more Bourdieu, possibly The Rules of Art.
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  11. Merton it is. I borrowed Social Theory and Social Structure today.
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      CommentAuthorBregje
    • CommentTimeDec 10th 2008
    Borrowed? Don't you spend all your days in the library? wink
  12. Those books I read in train on the way to and fro biggrin
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  13. Can we discuss politics here or not really, Bregt? There is some stuff going through my head and I would use a decent discussion about it. The place in point is Middle East, which I am writing a script about now.

    Sociology is amazing, to add to what I've been saying before. This is so developing and makes me reflect about a lot of stuff. We can bring in some of sociological terms to the politics discussion if we will.
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      CommentAuthorBregt
    • CommentTimeDec 13th 2008
    PawelStroinski wrote
    Can we discuss politics here or not really, Bregt?

    Of course. smile
    Kazoo
  14. It can spark some controversy, though.

    I will start with a bigger lecture first. But now I'm watching a movie, so in commercials smile.
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeDec 13th 2008
    Controversy schmontroversy. Say it like it is Pawel.
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeDec 14th 2008
    Exactly. It's not like we would suggest drilling a hole in the middle of Saudi Arabia and sinking off the whole damn Arabian peninsula.

    Well.
    *I* might.
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn