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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeDec 26th 2007 edited
    "Blink" is the scariest Doctor Who episode ever IMO Alan.


    With such poor viewing on TV last night I pulled out the DVD of Clint Eastwood's UNFORGIVEN, one of my all time favourite films. Brilliant film and brilliant performances all around, particularly from the always watchable Gene Hackman, Eastwood's final, redemptionless scenes are truly chilling.

    Lennie Niehaus brooding score works very well, especially in the rain soaked bloody ending.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  1. Timmer wrote
    "Blink" is the scariest Doctor Who episode ever IMO Alan.

    One of the scariest - and one of the best.

    I think that Murray Gold has co-commentator duties in the commentary track and it'll be interesting to hear what he says about the score for this one.
    The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorNautilus
    • CommentTimeDec 27th 2007
    I recently watched Indy trilogy (How you know if you read my recently open and recently closed thread tongue ).

    I didn't watch them for years, Ironically they are some of my all time favourite movies. Why I didn't buy it before???? Sometimes I can't understand what happen in my head...(Ok, a lot of people here either)

    Now, When I know more about Cinema and about Scores Im really amazed with this trilogy.They are shoot with a masterful hand!

    Ok, the second one seems wrotte for a child (Sometimes it seems a Sommers movie), but if you can pass this (im sure you can) you have 3 briliant movies with an incredible sense of rythm and fun.....I can't still believe how Spielberg makes this kind of comic-like set pieces! truly incredible!

    (example: this action set piece in the mines when Indy is fighting and then the camera moves to short round in the background is fighting too)
  2. I'm now watching 24 Season 5, I'm at the 4th hour. Man it took litteraly 5 minutes before the action begun. This show is one crazy mother ...... and I like it biggrin

    Other shows all have their pride but 24 just gives you thrills and thrills, simply brilliant
    Ps, those opening 15 minutes of the new season just blow you away every time.

    Arghh me wanna more biggrin
    waaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeDec 27th 2007 edited
    Lots of viewing over the last days:
    Balls Of Fury
    Enter The Dragon with ping pong. Sounds funny. Isn't.
    2 out of 5

    Casino Royale
    The new Bond is one cold son of a bitch, without any of Moore's sense of irony or Connery's elegant viciousness. Really, he's just a brute. Interesting reboot of the franchise, with an opening scene that's absolutely eye-popping (the "jumping" sequence)...but the pace sure could have benefitted by cutting out 45 minutes or so. It's VERY long...
    3.5 out of 5

    Pirates Of The Caribbean: At World's End
    Overly long, ovely chaotic and without any direction or goal, with operettesque Pirate Kings and Pirate Lords (and Gods...slant ) thrown in in a very uncomfortable mix. And not nearly enough Depp, who really kept this franchise afloat as it was! The Wagnerian ending rings hollow and just leaves the door open for part four...which they probably'd better skip.
    1.5 out of 5

    The Hogfather
    An utterly charming and beguiling TV version (and a hugely expensive one at that!) of one of Terry Pratchett's Discworld stories: the Hogfather (the local equivalent of Father Christmas) is missing, presumed under fire by the Keepers Of Reality, and Death, in a desparate attempt to keep Faith and Fantasy intact assumes his role. Sir Ian Richardson is an excellent Death, and the whole thing is as enjoyable as a Christmas grog mug filled with cocoa! Lovely!
    4.5 out of 5

    I Am Legend
    Will Smith is the last man alive in the world. Will Smith looks pained. Will Smith looks troubled. Will Smith looks buff. A lot of CGI Gollums come up to eat him, but fail, as he isn't the last: there's a girl whom God has given coordinates to man's last hide-out in Vermont. Will looks pained. Will looks troubled. Will looks buff. There are fights with Gollums. Will blows up (but very pained, troubled and buffly) and girl finds hide-out. The End.
    Absolute shite and a complete waste of time, without any redeeming virtues whatsoever.
    So of course a sequel apparently is already in the making.
    1.5 out of 5
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
  3. Martijn wrote

    Casino Royale
    ...but the pace sure could have benefitted by cutting out 45 minutes or so. It's VERY long...
    3.5 out of 5
    [/b]


    I saw a version on a plane that ran about 20 minutes shorter. That just about did it. Losses were minimal.
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
  4. Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix
    Saw this the third time now, first time on DVD, and it gets better every time. Those fights in the Ministry are just fantastic. Umbridge is perfectly cast. And I still like Hooper´s score. biggrin

    Die Hard 4.0
    First viewing. I was actually surprised. It was much better than I would have thought, though totally over the top at times, but fun nevertheless. I was totally surprised to notice some Kamen action themes, never would have thought that.
  5. Martijn wrote
    Lots of viewing over the last days:

    Pirates Of The Caribbean: At World's End
    Overly long, ovely chaotic and without any direction or goal, with operettesque Pirate Kings and Pirate Lords (and Gods...slant ) thrown in in a very uncomfortable mix. And not nearly enough Depp, who really kept this franchise afloat as it was! The Wagnerian ending rings hollow and just leaves the door open for part four...which they probably'd better skip.
    1.5 out of 5

    1.5 out of 5


    Finally someone who thinks Pirates 3 is crap too
    Man that movie felt like going forever
    And why those plots and plots? Give me the fun of the first one everyday wink

    Of course, me don't wanna forget to pinpoint that luckily as for the music, things rised from part 1 to 3 smile
    waaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh
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      CommentAuthorBobdH
    • CommentTimeDec 27th 2007 edited
    Oh, I didn't care much for Pirates 3 either. It just felt enormously contrived, especially the humor, which was the real shame. I even liked Dead Man's Chest a lot, but this was just a mess. The only thing it had something going for was the visuals and the music.
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      CommentAuthorNautilus
    • CommentTimeDec 27th 2007
    BobdH wrote
    Oh, I didn't care much for Pirates 3 either. It just felt enormously contrived, especially the humor, which was the real shame. I even liked Dead Man's Chest a lot, but this was just a mess. The only thing it had something going for was the visuals and the music.


    Mmmm...Well im not a fan of either of the 3 pirates movies. I find the first one boring, the second stupid and the third one annoying for 2 hours....

    But after some views I think the third one is the best of the bunch. Why?

    -Up is DOwn sequence
    -Multiple Jacks Sequece
    -The ship sailing in a sea of stars
    -the incredibly and touching last 45 minutes.

    But yes, the plot never goes to anywhere, it's confuse, boring for almost all his running time and the humour is not funny. Brukheimer seems have lost his sense in his last sequels.
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      CommentAuthorBobdH
    • CommentTimeDec 27th 2007 edited
    Nautilus wrote
    But yes, the plot never goes to anywhere, it's confuse, boring for almost all his running time and the humour is not funny. Brukheimer seems have lost his sense in his last sequels.


    Bruckheimers only sense is his sense of money, and that, I believe, was spot on with this trilogy. He might consider it his crowning masterpiece.
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeDec 27th 2007
    Steven wrote
    Tommy_Boy wrote
    Steven wrote
    Marselus wrote
    Stardust: a nice surprise for me. I expected a kinda Narnia film, but fortunately is a very different approach to fantasy. Nice characters, great performances (even if Claire Danes british accent seemed to me a bit forced) and a nice score by Ilan Eshkeri, ripping off all he can (Lord of the Rings, Pirates of the Caribbean -twice and Dracula), but at the end fitting nice with the picture.



    One of the worst films I've ever had the displeasure of seeing. I'll never get those 2 hours back... slant (Eshkeri's score is mixed WAY too loud in the final mix... horrible, just horrible.)


    how can a score be mixed too loudly? For all I know most scores are mixed too softly wink
    I love it when music soars over everything else, at least if its good music and Stardust is just that smile


    It's overbearing, and overscored. That laughably unoriginal main 'heroic theme' is used too many times, for example anytime there's a sweeping shot or some dude on a horse! The film also tries to be funny when it clearly isn't. It's stupid and cringe-worthy. I hate it. With a PASSION.


    Wow! Can't please anyone around here. It's mixed too low, it's mixed too high. Since when do film music fans bitch about a score that they can actually hear over top of the sound effect. Man...

    Anyway, I just saw Stardust and it was an absolutely hoot. Basically it's the Princess Bride 2 but not as good or as original as that film. The highlight for me was Robert DeNiro. First when you see him you think... oh man, typical DeNiro role... but once we get into his cabin the hilarity ensues. Both my wife and I were on the floor laughing our asses off at this unconventional performance. I wanted to see more. While the film is a scattered mess, I really enjoyed the performance, Claire Danes is wonderful to "look" at, the humor was spot on, the effect were really good and the score surprisingly worked for a score that's a rip off of countless other works. The only thing that really turned me off was the STUPID rushed ending. Besides that, both my wife and I were pleasantly surprised with this wonderful and hilarious adventure film.

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeDec 27th 2007
    DIE HARD 4.O ROCKS! Hear that? ROCKS! punk
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeDec 27th 2007
    Christodoulides wrote
    DIE HARD 4.O ROCKS! Hear that? ROCKS! punk


    So daft I could watch it again and again punk
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeDec 27th 2007
    Erik Woods wrote
    Steven wrote
    Tommy_Boy wrote
    Steven wrote
    Marselus wrote
    Stardust: a nice surprise for me. I expected a kinda Narnia film, but fortunately is a very different approach to fantasy. Nice characters, great performances (even if Claire Danes british accent seemed to me a bit forced) and a nice score by Ilan Eshkeri, ripping off all he can (Lord of the Rings, Pirates of the Caribbean -twice and Dracula), but at the end fitting nice with the picture.



    One of the worst films I've ever had the displeasure of seeing. I'll never get those 2 hours back... slant (Eshkeri's score is mixed WAY too loud in the final mix... horrible, just horrible.)


    how can a score be mixed too loudly? For all I know most scores are mixed too softly wink
    I love it when music soars over everything else, at least if its good music and Stardust is just that smile


    It's overbearing, and overscored. That laughably unoriginal main 'heroic theme' is used too many times, for example anytime there's a sweeping shot or some dude on a horse! The film also tries to be funny when it clearly isn't. It's stupid and cringe-worthy. I hate it. With a PASSION.


    Wow! Can't please anyone around here. It's mixed too low, it's mixed too high. Since when do film music fans bitch about a score that they can actually hear over top of the sound effect. Man...

    Anyway, I just saw Stardust and it was an absolutely hoot. Basically it's the Princess Bride 2 but not as good or as original as that film. The highlight for me was Robert DeNiro. First when you see him you think... oh man, typical DeNiro role... but once we get into his cabin the hilarity ensues. Both my wife and I were on the floor laughing our asses off at this unconventional performance. I wanted to see more. While the film is a scattered mess, I really enjoyed the performance, Claire Danes is wonderful to "look" at, the humor was spot on, the effect were really good and the score surprisingly worked for a score that's a rip off of countless other works. The only thing that really turned me off was the STUPID rushed ending. Besides that, both my wife and I were pleasantly surprised with this wonderful and hilarious adventure film.

    -Erik-


    You can please people round here, you're just cherry picking the negative comments and blowing them out of proportion! There are more positive things said about films and film music than negative on this forum.

    And the score is mixed too high, it's utterly distracting from what is a very bad film anyway. I didn't find it funny in the least. (Although I prefer my humour to be satirical, sharp and witty... hence my straight-faced expression -save for the wincing and cringing- throughout the entirety of its running time.)

    I'm off to watch some South Park...
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeDec 27th 2007
    Steven wrote
    You can please people round here, you're just cherry picking the negative comments and blowing them out of proportion! There are more positive things said about films and film music than negative on this forum.


    I don't think I'm blowing anything out of proportion. I'm sure that if you ask any film music fan around here one of their Top 3 problems with film music these days is that fact that the music is mix is far too low. So, when a film like this comes along that is very music friendly all you can do is bitch about the mix and the fact that you can actually hear the music. Yes, the score is derivative as all hell but here we finally have a director come along that wants us to actually hear the music and all we get get it complaining. I mean, are so upset that John Williams score to Star Wars got a friendly mix. I just as loud and in your face as Stardust's score is.

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeDec 27th 2007
    Erik Woods wrote
    Steven wrote
    You can please people round here, you're just cherry picking the negative comments and blowing them out of proportion! There are more positive things said about films and film music than negative on this forum.


    I don't think I'm blowing anything out of proportion. I'm sure that if you ask any film music fan around here one of their Top 3 problems with film music these days is that fact that the music is mix is far too low. So, when a film like this comes along that is very music friendly all you can do is bitch about the mix and the fact that you can actually hear the music. Yes, the score is derivative as all hell but here we finally have a director come along that wants us to actually hear the music and all we get get it complaining. I mean, are so upset that John Williams score to Star Wars got a friendly mix. I just as loud and in your face as Stardust's score is.

    -Erik-


    Okay, but you're still taking my comment out of context. I'm complaining about the inappropriateness of the music itself. Whacking the volume up only accentuates its stupidity.

    If it's a good piece of music accompanying a deserving scene, then I'm all for loud music in a film. Lord Of The Rings has some pretty loud mixes in the soundtrack, but I'm certainly not complaining about them.
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeDec 27th 2007
    Steven wrote
    Okay, but you're still taking my comment out of context.


    Well, how is taking the following out of context.

    "Eshkeri's score is mixed WAY too loud in the final mix."

    Now, if that's not what you meant then I'm sorry but to me that reads... the music was mixed WAY too loud.

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeDec 27th 2007
    Erik Woods wrote
    Steven wrote
    Okay, but you're still taking my comment out of context.


    Well, how is taking the following out of context.

    "Eshkeri's score is mixed WAY too loud in the final mix."

    Now, if that's not what you meant then I'm sorry but to me that reads... the music was mixed WAY too loud.

    -Erik-


    Well then you've misinterpreted the context I'm referring to, because I haven't disputed that. Perhaps I should have put the emphasis on Eshkeri's name in that statement? Perhaps then the context in which it was written will become more clear?

    Yes, I DO think it's mixed too loud in the film. And I shall repeat: I'm complaining about the inappropriateness of the music itself. Whacking the volume up only accentuates its stupidity. (The latter here being the context I based my statement on which you quoted.)

    Among other reasons, I dislike the score because it is unoriginal and, in the aforementioned 'heroic' scenes and shots, its inappropriateness. So of course I'm going to complain about its volume if it's loud!

    (...lord, there's nothing like explaining things in-depth that do not require it!)
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeDec 27th 2007
    Steven wrote
    (...lord, there's nothing like explaining things in-depth that do not require it!)


    Well, it's your own fault. You clearly weren't explaining things properly and your comments were misinterpreted. Only after a lengthy explanation did your original statement start to make any sort of sense... but your original comment was still referred to the mixing of the music and the quality of the music.

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeDec 27th 2007
    Erik Woods wrote
    Steven wrote
    (...lord, there's nothing like explaining things in-depth that do not require it!)


    Well, it's your own fault. You clearly weren't explaining things properly and your comments were misinterpreted. Only after a lengthy explanation did your original statement start to make any sort of sense... but your original comment was still referred to the mixing of the music and the quality of the music.

    -Erik-


    Oh I see, it must be MY fault. Of course.
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeDec 27th 2007
    Steven wrote
    Erik Woods wrote
    Steven wrote
    (...lord, there's nothing like explaining things in-depth that do not require it!)


    Well, it's your own fault. You clearly weren't explaining things properly and your comments were misinterpreted. Only after a lengthy explanation did your original statement start to make any sort of sense... but your original comment was still referred to the mixing of the music and the quality of the music.

    -Erik-


    Oh I see, it must be MY fault. Of course.


    Can take responsibility for your own actions, huh? wink

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeDec 27th 2007
    Not at all. I accept it was my fault for assuming people would be smart enough to know I was referring exclusively to Eshkeri's score since I had already expressed my disdain for it, and not scores in general, which appears to be what you were accusing me of.

    Next time, I'll be sure to include a footnote to avoid any further confusion of contextual matters.*

    *May include some irony.
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeDec 27th 2007
    Steven wrote
    Not at all. I accept it was my fault for assuming people would be smart enough to know I was referring exclusively to Eshkeri's score since I had already expressed my disdain for it, and not scores in general, which appears to be what you were accusing me of.


    AUGH!!! And all I was saying that I find it odd that any score fan would bitch about a film that finally had a solid mix for it's music... whether bad or good.

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeDec 27th 2007
    ...but...must...have...the last... word...at... ALL COSTS.... !!!
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeDec 27th 2007
    Steven wrote
    ...but...must...have...the last... word...at... ALL COSTS.... !!!


    You cannot win!!!

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
  6. FalkirkBairn wrote
    Timmer wrote
    "Blink" is the scariest Doctor Who episode ever IMO Alan.

    One of the scariest - and one of the best.

    I think that Murray Gold has co-commentator duties in the commentary track and it'll be interesting to hear what he says about the score for this one.


    That was the one episode I turned on this year, and I thought the script was possibly the best I'd ever seen on a Doctor Who episode in any era.
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
  7. Yesterday I witnessed... NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN.

    Man, you can't stop what's coming. How true is that.

    I said to myself two days ago that it seems people just can't translate the real power of novels onto the screen. (After seeing THE GOLDEN COMPASS.) But THIS is something else all right. This is the greatest film the Coen Brothers have made, by some measure. Rich in dialogue, in scene construction, in sound design, in subtext. And the ending is perfect.
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
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      CommentAuthorBregt
    • CommentTimeDec 27th 2007 edited
    franz_conrad wrote
    Yesterday I witnessed... NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN.

    Man, you can't stop what's coming. How true is that.

    Does that mean it was good? dizzy wink
    Kazoo
  8. Yes, see above.
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am