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Rock Musicians doing Film Music
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- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeJul 28th 2009
RZA's score for Ghost Dog is very good in the film and I'd be definitely interested in hearing it outside the context (I should watch the film again, as well).
Mark Knopfler is one of my favorite rockmen and I really enjoy his work in the film genre. A Shot at Glory is just precious little gem.http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentTimeJul 28th 2009 edited
Timmer wrote
Christodoulides wrote
Thor wrote
If we're gonna stretch the definition of "rock" a bit, there's also:
BT
RZA
Paul Oakenfold
Brian Eno
Tangerine Dream (and Chris Franke's solo work)
Oh my God, if only these (along with Ry Cooder) stayed within their initial whatever genres in the first place!
Some of Ry Cooder's scores have worked very well in the film and as a listen on CD. Same goes for Tangerine Dream.
I don't claim to have heard all those, but the ones i did listen to, could easily be surpassed by an able film music composerLove Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJul 28th 2009
Cooder in particular has such a specific style. Paris, Texas is lovely and I'd find it hard to imagine someone elses score in that film. He has a style that fits a certain style of film but yes, it is limiting.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentTimeJul 28th 2009
John Zorn.I am extremely serious. -
- CommentTimeJul 28th 2009
PawelStroinski wrote
Mark Knopfler is one of my favorite rockmen and I really enjoy his work in the film genre. A Shot at Glory is just precious little gem.
Haven't heard that one - must pick it up. I like almost all his work, though his film music is really more "instrumental accompaniment" than "dramatic underscore" I would suggest. -
- CommentTimeJul 28th 2009
I agree. Knopfler isn't really a very good film composer, IMO. He lacks some of that dramatic sensibility that is required of professional film composers. He basically just swaps his regular recording studio with a film music recording studio, but plays out the music pretty much as if it were an instrumental studio album. I'm a long-time Knopfler fan (and Dire Straits fan), so it's not a criticism of his musicality; just of his film composing skill.I am extremely serious. -
- CommentTimeJul 28th 2009
Fully agree: I tried a couple of his scores and came to pretty much the same conclusion.
Glad to read I'm not the only one!'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeJul 28th 2009
Well, the score to A Shot at Glory isn't much of a dramatic score, rather a Celtic accompaniment to the movie, but it really works.http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentTimeJul 28th 2009
Timmer wrote
Cooder in particular has such a specific style. Paris, Texas is lovely and I'd find it hard to imagine someone elses score in that film. He has a style that fits a certain style of film but yes, it is limiting.
True, but there's nothing wrong with that: Cooder has never put himself forward as a film composer but rather a folk artist who now and then happens to be called upon to do music for films.
And I have to say that when he does it generally it works exceedingly well: The Long Riders -my favourite score by him- as a film is really elevated by the use of those odd, old instruments and rough-edge feel.
In fact, I tend to be generally less impressed when such clear "niche" artists try and work on a more generalist level: Cooder's Geronimo, for example, is certainly not bad, but I visit it very rarely because he has tried and compose it along far more generally accepted lines and styles...which simply isn't very interesting to me!
That probably goes for many of the other artists mentioned above as well: in keeping with their particular forte, they create a unique (to them) sound that gives the film a certain mood and feel (one would assume that is why they were chosen to compose a score in the first place!).
When they try and break out of that mold, the magic -generally- is gone!'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
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"A unique (to them) sound" is the key phrase here.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentTimeJul 28th 2009
Yes, that was my point?'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentTimeJul 28th 2009
To them; not us. Not me anyway. :buckit:Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentTimeJul 28th 2009
Well, I'd be hard pressed to come up with someone who has done that Ry Cooder sound.
Also, I find Knopfler's guitar work exceedingly recognisable (though I am no fan).
So yeah, I'd definitely say "unique".
To those who don't like it as well. But "not liking it" is a completely different point.'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentTimeJul 28th 2009
PawelStroinski wrote
Well, the score to A Shot at Glory isn't much of a dramatic score, rather a Celtic accompaniment to the movie, but it really works.
Yeah, he pretty much taps into that "celtic" mood in many of his film scores. Same for LOCAL HERO, CAL, THE PRINCESS BRIDE or LAST EXIT TO BROOKLYN. In fact, his entire SCREENPLAYING CD from the 90's.I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeJul 28th 2009
Well, he has Glaswegian roots and he seems to really like that.http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentTimeJul 28th 2009
DO we need a bucket emoticon?Kazoo -
- CommentTimeJul 28th 2009
Bregt wrote
DO we need a bucket emoticon?
We need it desperately. Actually, it is a long time request.Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you -
- CommentTimeJul 28th 2009
I think this is a case for user-specific emoticons again.
Stavroula gets her Aphrodite, Demetris his bucket.'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJul 28th 2009
Good call on The Long Riders Martijn, I'd forgotten that one
A damn fine film too.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentTimeJul 28th 2009
I think Mark Snow said he played with Kamen in some rock bands; they were good friends.
One of his first ten scoring gigs had a rock sound to it.The views and opinions of Ford A. Thaxton are his own and do not necessarily reflect the ones of ANYONE else. -
- CommentTimeJul 29th 2009
justin boggan wrote
I think Mark Snow said he played with Kamen in some rock bands; they were good friends.
One of his first ten scoring gigs had a rock sound to it.
Mark Snow was never a rock musician per se. The New York Rock & Roll Ensemble (which he had with Kamen in the early 70's) was more a group of classically trained students doing classical music with a rock vibe (or vice versa). Far more classical than even Electric Light Orchestra. It's pretty cool, though - I've heard their ROLL OVER album from 1971.I am extremely serious. -
- CommentTimeJul 30th 2009
"Mark Snow was never a rock musician per se. '"
Or simply a musicianLove Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentTimeJul 30th 2009
Ooh. That is HARSH (sounds like a Southall comment).Kazoo -
- CommentTimeJul 30th 2009
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- CommentTimeJul 31st 2009
Or, or, sounds like realityLove Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentTimeJul 31st 2009
Elton John!I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJul 31st 2009
John BarryOn Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentTimeJul 31st 2009
Timmer wrote
John Barry
Rock?!? More like jazz, I would take it. Also, didn't Barry do film scores almost from the very beginning, next to his Seven things?I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJul 31st 2009
No. He was doing the JB7 before he did his first film score ( Beat Girl ).On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentTimeJul 31st 2009
Timmer wrote
No. He was doing the JB7 before he did his first film score ( Beat Girl ).
OK, thanks for the info.I am extremely serious.