Cabaret / Stand Up Comedy / Satire

Bregje, I recently saw Ton Zuur again on TV and indeed, it is his best show! (unlike Delirium, to be honest). King of Dutch comedy will always be Herman Finkers, though, and Youp van 't Hek is very good as well.

As for international comedians, I love the likes of Eddie Izzard and Ricky Gervais, among others. Will post some of my favorites soon!

Thanks Alan! I just watched all three parts of the Live at the Apollo show. Really nice stuff in there.

I also watched the Royal Variety Performance 2008 with the 'man drawer' part haha.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4xxqVzlSeE
I forwarded it to Maykel immediately.

But in stand-up comedy there are so many different styles, subjects and accents. There are cabaretiers I love and there are cabaretiers I loathe, I always thought there was something for everyone in there? But perhaps not for people who don't like the complete genre at all.

Some focus on songs, some on language, others just have a vivid imagination, some are rude, some are very physical, some take daily subjects, some political subjects...

BTW, I've never seen anyone live in the theatre, I only watched DVD's so far!

That's the only show I know by Javier but I really really enjoy it on many levels. He focused on changing society and a bit of nostalgia.

Like Guido Weijers, he has this recognizable things from his youth too, plus I like his view on simple things and how he uses his body and expressions.


I never heard anyone who did not like Herman Finkers! Completely unique style.


Hm... good example of someone I cannot watch or listen to for too long...

But many people say that of Marc Marie Huijbregts as well and I love that guy. Also because he's from my home town and listening to him (he tells very personal family stories too) is like visiting family or something. Plus he's a very good singer!

Generally speaking I don't like women that much. It's always as if men are funny and women act funny. Except of course Brigitte Kaandorp. She is great.


Excellent! Don't know anything by the names you mention here.

No, I perfectly understand.
I always try and get people involved in things I so enjoy myself (film music is an excellent example). If only to try and make them understand why it gives me so much joy and pleasure. When that fails I also feel that they are truly missing something really worthwhile, but obviously that's only because these things mean so much to me.
And even though I know it's just projection, it's just impossible to shake.

Guess it's just our innate need to share happiness.

Can you perhaps give an example of what you mean by that?

Is it perhaps something like this:
From Balls of Steel - Toju The Militant Black Guy
He is making white people feel very uncomfortable by insinuating they are being racist:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRJgqx8Z … re=related
I think it's funny. Although I'm not completely sure it's not set up. It is TV after all...

Because people are always extra careful not to be racist or discriminating. Because people even tend to defend themselves for things that were not even disciminating to begin with.

I think Draadstaal (Dutch) did a nice one with that too but I couldn't find it on YouTube. It's with a jew in the police station I believe?

I prefer satire or comedy far more than practical jokes or other ways to fool someone and shows like that. That's not my thing at all generally speaking, but when I saw this one I thought it was well done. And I wondered if that was situation-based comedy??

OK, I was just wondering.
This sort of thing (using anti-social behaviour to make unsuspecting and innocent people angry, annoyed or shocked for no reason) isn't funny to me at all.

When it's a skit (i.e. acted by all involved) it can be very funny, as the Deliberate Misunderstanding is a well-used tool in comedy. But to inflict it on the public is at best stupid and annoying and at worst aggressive.

I've actually had a big black guy getting in my face for something I didn't say but he heard and thought was racist (to this day I have no idea what happened), but he just didn't listen to anything I tried to say or explain.
It wasn't a particularly funny experience for anyone involved or watching.
I can't for the life of me understand why it would be when a like situation is staged. The situation is nowhere near absurd enough to NOT take seriously.

I don't think Balls Of Steel can be classified situational comedy though.
If anything it's more Shock TV than anything else (and I honestly don't like it. It completely capitalizes on a trend of the selfish, nasty and vicious getting glamourised.)
A situational comedy revolves more around a storyline that is comedic, rather than jokes. Story-driven series like Fawlty Towers would be situational comedy.

Hehe, it's really interesting what people find funny and not. It's so personal and perhaps different in different countries. Hard to understand.

I think the point was to make people feel uncomfortable. I did like the All Blacks / White Christmas one, really!

By the way, I've been accused of racism once (me, of all people! ). I felt horrible for three days, really. I was working at the Zoo's entrance and people could walk in and out of the parc with their ticket. When it was busy we checked some tickets randomly and apparently I checked the ticket of a large black family and let a white man pass with his son and they really burst out in anger and called me a racist. If there had been a reason it was they were in a larger group while individuals probably just went to get a coat out of their car or something... I was a lot younger then and was really upset. But that's a whole different story.



Alright.


No!


Nooo!
You know what I don't understand? When children break their bones and the parents just keep filming.

I do like bloopers a lot from TV shows!


What is that? Everyone is talking about it...

I think it's much like our satire shows, but I guess everything gets lost in the language. It did not even put a smile on my face, isn't that weird?

But I do smile now at you, see:

I hate disecting comedy, to me something is funny or it's not, simple as that.

Thor, the 'fake' Danish clip made me laugh

Darn! I wrote the link correctly too!!!

Phil Cool pulls some wicked faces. I couldn't find it but his E.T. impression is incredible.

In a word?

YES!

As it is in The Netherlands.
I'm intrigued though, D.: what does cabaret constitute for our Graeco-European brethren?