[Closed] What's annoying you currently? II

oh, how I would like to change the sound / music / feeling of the trailers if I could

Speak for yourself.

As I said, I don't even like Close Encounters, so nostalgia has very little to do with it. I even agree with Aida; old trailers are pretty awful and clunky. However, advertising a film that isn't a modern action thriller as a modern action thriller is stupid. It's about how appropriate the marketing is, not whether it's old or new.

I don't really mind the modern approach. Thing is, this trailer is only for those not familiar yet with the film, so the young crowd. If you'd market the film for what it is, you probably won't attract them in the first place, even if they'd ultimately love it as soon as they invest in it. So you need them to invest and lure them with something they think they'll enjoy - I.e. something that doesn't feel "old" in their minds. It's about getting them into the theatre by any means necessary, and then once they invest in it, they'll love it. But they don't know yet they'll love it.

By the way, this is a response to "selling it like a modern Nolan film", not to "selling it like a different genre than it is" - but a case can be made that when you've got a film that's basically for 3/4ths about a paranoid guy losing his mind, and a climax of dazzling effects, the effects will be the best bet to sell the film on.

For me, the goal (getting youngsters interested in classic films) sanctifies the means. Hopefully it'll get them interested in original material again, lure them away from the superhero hypes.

I don't understand why you think the triumphant music and cuts of the most spectacular effects (like nearly every trailer today), indicate that it must be pandering to young audiences. The Force Awakens trailer with its bombastic rendition of the Han and Leia Love theme spoke most to old audiences who wanted a Star Wars movie based more off the originals than the disappointing prequels!

If you think that showing the most visually exciting parts of the movie over bombastic music is negative, then fine, but to then say, "Since its negative, it must be pandering to the youth demographic" seems like it makes you the patronising one.

You're strawmanning the hell out of my arguments.

As I've repeated ad nasuem, it's about the misleading way it's advertised. The Force Awakens is an action sci-fi; it was advertised as one. Close Encounters is a sci-fi drama, from the 70s, and yet here, in this new trailer, they're advertising it as an almost modern sci-fi action thriller.

Again, for the millionth time, it's a bad way to market an old film. It. Just. Doesn't. Fit. People will expect something else. If it really is about attracting new audiences to a film they're completely ignorant of, misleading their expectations is not the way to do it. Nothing patronising about that.

I tend to agree with Aidabaida. It is all about younger audiences. I could care less about most of the new films today. I mainly go to the art houses to view films.

Being part of the older generation (69) I'm not the target market, far fom it. I'll watch four or five trailers and I might go maybe to one of them. I've found that getting older the special effects really men nothing to me anymore. A good example is "King Kong." I still prefer the original from 1933 over the remakes. I think you understand my friend. By the way I'm happy to have you as a member of this small group. Don't be afraid to ask about classical music.

Not sure what you mean. The composer most similar to Mozart is probably Joseph Haydn.

Who is the Mozart of the Romantic period? Hm, Franz Schubert?

Volker

My instinct is to pick one of the more "backwards-looking" romantics like Mendelssohn or Brahms, but if the question is "what would Mozart have sounded like if he had fully embraced romanticism" then I'm not sure that's right. Hard to say, really, especially for me as my knowledge of classical music is relatively narrow.

By the end of his life Mozart did start to sound darker. There's the famous unfinished Requiem, but there's another work he wrote which is not far from the Requiem, called Little Masonic Cantata which goes in a similar direction.

There is also a suite by tchaikovsky for strings called "mozartina" you might also want to check out

https://www.amazon.com/Naxos-30th-Anniv … B06X1GB7RF

This would be a good starting point for you for a little more thana dollar a CD.
Tom

The thing I like most about the trailer is that they have edited John Williams' 5-note motif with the character climbing into the ship at the end of the trailer. Makes it look like the aliens have a set of musical steps, and suggests that the film may be a comedy.

The appearance of the 5 note motif at the end is close to what we have in the score and therefor the only element in the audio of the trailer that makes musical sense, as well as it being appropriately used to end on a (not so) high note. The rest of the 'music' is plain garbage and cheapens the visual aspect of the film. The trailer completely misses the mark.

Thomas G. I'm sure you can make something spectacular out of this.