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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeSep 10th 2009 edited
    Has anyone seen this and can comment? I've always been a fan of the director, but this one here is getting so many ODD reviews and people describing various heavily disturbing things with it, that i am not sure if i really want to view it!
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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeSep 10th 2009 edited
    It is terrible. Awful. Product of a sick mind. Anyway, if you wanna see a woman jerking off a guy ´til he bleeds, just before performing a clitoris ablation on herself (close-up shots in both cases, so you don´t miss a detail), be my guest.

    It´s been said that Von Trier made the film after a terrible personal issue. Well, he should have gone to the shrink, like everybody else.

    0 out of 5
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeSep 10th 2009 edited
    I've always loved von Trier too (and I somehow suspect that Marselus hasn't seen many of his previous films?) - he's always good at provoking. The nude/porn scenes in THE IDIOTS is another example, or the execution scenes in DANCER IN THE DARK. I'm very curious about this one....I wonder if it's anything like Oshima's REALM OF THE SENSES, just even more twisted?
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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeSep 10th 2009 edited
    You are right Thor. I had seen a couple of films by Von Trier before Antichrist. Enough to know he is one of the most pretentious directors I know. Not that I blame him though: he´s done pretty good at film festivals.

    Not that I don´t like provocation in films, but this guy disguises his films with provocation when there´s only arrogance and pretentiousness (is that last word correctly written?).
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeSep 10th 2009
    Marselus wrote
    ...his films with provocation when there´s only arrogance and pretentiousness (is that last word correctly written?).


    Actually, it's Pretentiousnessnessnessness.

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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeSep 10th 2009
    biggrin

    Thanks
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeSep 10th 2009 edited
    Marselus wrote
    You are right Thor. I had seen a couple of films by Von Trier before Antichrist. Enough to know he is one of the most pretentious directors I know. Not that I blame him though: he´s done pretty good at film festivals.

    Not that I don´t like provocation in films, but this guy disguises his films with provocation when there´s only arrogance and pretentiousness (is that last word correctly written?).


    Hmm...I'm afraid I don't see what is "pretentious" about his films. He's got his own style and approach to the film medium. It's never boring and it's always interesting. IMO. And I CERTAINLY don't see any ARROGANCE(????) in there. Can a film be arrogant in the first place?
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      CommentAuthorplindboe
    • CommentTimeSep 10th 2009
    I think people consider him arrogant because he said he was the best director in the world at the Antichrist press conference, and he's known for making similar remarks from time to time. Anyone who knows a bit about Trier though knows that it's all part of his humour and desire to provoke.

    Personally I'm curious about Antichrist too, though I'm sure I'll cringe at the mutilation scenes. A movie that divides reviewers like that, is bound to contain something of interest.

    Peter smile
  1. Thor wrote
    Hmm...I'm afraid I don't see what is "pretentious" about his films. He's got his own style and approach to the film medium. It's never boring and it's always interesting. IMO. And I CERTAINLY don't see any ARROGANCE(????) in there. Can a film be arrogant in the first place?


    I've often found him to be quite arrogant, usually through the remarks he makes surrounding a film's making/promotion rather than through the content of the films. The only film where that arrogance really comes into play is his FIVE OBSTRUCTIONS piece. The fifth remake of Leth's 'Perfect Human Being' presented in that film is a symptom of how casual his arrogance is.
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeSep 10th 2009
    Ah, so you were talking about the PERSON von Trier. Well, as plindboe says, it's all part of his "project" or "image", if you will. If you take it with a pinch of salt, as we say up here, it's really nothing to get riled up about.
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  2. Well if it had been me, it would have been the person of von Trier I would have been talking about. wink
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeSep 11th 2009 edited
    So, it's torture AND porn? Yeah, i DO see the problem with it. Is there a meaning in it too, or just porn? 'CAuse if it's the latter (or even simply gore) there are FAR BETTER movies in those genres to watch i am afraid.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeSep 11th 2009
    Christodoulides wrote
    So, it's torture AND porn? Yeah, i DO see the problem with it. Is there a meaning in it too, or just porn? 'CAuse if it's the latter (or even simply gore) there are FAR BETTER movies in those genres to watch i am afraid.


    I'm sure there are, Demetris, but I've often labelled von Trier an "intellectual director making visceral movies", so I'm not sure a SAW or a HOSTEL or a SHAVING RYAN'S PRIVATES offer quite the same level of filmatic quality. smile
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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeSep 11th 2009
    Christodoulides wrote
    So, it's torture AND porn? Yeah, i DO see the problem with it. Is there a meaning in it too, or just porn? 'CAuse if it's the latter (or even simply gore) there are FAR BETTER movies in those genres to watch i am afraid.

    It is not a torture porn film Demetris (at least, not the same crappy torture porn Saw or Hostel are), but there aree definitely some torture porn moments, if you know what I mean. As for the meaning of those, I´m sure Von Trier fans and reviewers will find it. I wasn´t able.

    Thor wrote
    I'm sure there are, Demetris, but I've often labelled von Trier an "intellectual director making visceral movies", so I'm not sure a SAW or a HOSTEL or a SHAVING RYAN'S PRIVATES offer quite the same level of filmatic quality. smile

    biggrin

    I wouldn´t put Saving Private Ryan in the same category as the other two you mention though, not even for its gory moments. In Spielberg´s film they are totally justified.
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeSep 11th 2009
    Marselus wrote
    I wouldn´t put Saving Private Ryan in the same category as the other two you mention though, not even for its gory moments. In Spielberg´s film they are totally justified.


    Eh...yes, I know. I was talking about the famous porno film that took its name from the Spielberg epic. Perhaps I should just have mentioned GANGBANGERS III or something to avoid any confusion. smile
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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeSep 11th 2009
    Thor wrote
    Marselus wrote
    I wouldn´t put Saving Private Ryan in the same category as the other two you mention though, not even for its gory moments. In Spielberg´s film they are totally justified.


    Eh...yes, I know. I was talking about the famous porno film that took its name from the Spielberg epic. Perhaps I should just have mentioned GANGBANGERS III or something to avoid any confusion. smile

    Oh, my bad. SHAVING RYAN'S PRIVATES.....have to check this out then tongue
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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeSep 11th 2009 edited
    ...along with The Sperminator and Robocock. cheesy
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  3. lol
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeSep 11th 2009
    ...Star Trek: Insert Erection and Lawrence of her Labia... Do we ever grow up? tongue

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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeSep 11th 2009
    Erik Woods wrote
    ...Star Trek: Insert Erection and Lawrence of her Labia... Do we ever grow up? tongue

    -Erik-


    Pray no! NEVER!! biggrin

    p.s. not heard those ones before Erik wink
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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeSep 11th 2009
    Erik Woods wrote
    Lawrence of her Labia...

    -Erik-

    Brilliant.
    Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeSep 11th 2009
    Who'd want to grow up!? Immaturity all the way!

    (Star Trek: Insert Erection? Genius.)
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      CommentAuthorLSH
    • CommentTimeSep 11th 2009
    Vaginal Destination.




    Sorry. shame
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      CommentAuthorBobdH
    • CommentTimeSep 11th 2009 edited
    C'mon you guys, this is a decent forum, we're discussing a very artistic director here!


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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeSep 11th 2009
    biggrin punk
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
  4. Star Prick III: The Search for Cock
    Star Prick V: The Anal Frontier
    Moby's Dick
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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeSep 11th 2009
    PawelStroinski wrote
    Moby's Dick

    lol
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeSep 12th 2009
    The Bone Collector
    Snatch
    Big Daddy
    Any Which Way You Can
    Deep Impact
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeSep 12th 2009
    Field Of Wet Dreams.
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      CommentAuthorLSH
    • CommentTimeSep 12th 2009
    Harry Potter And The Horny Phoenix