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      CommentAuthorRalph Kruhm
    • CommentTimeSep 23rd 2009 edited
    Best music on TV: Battlestar Galactica. Definitely. With Doctor Who being a very close 2nd place. Lost is good, but please can we not loose our sense of reality here?

    Sci-Fi: Regardless of what you call it, SF, Sci-Fi, SyFy, or Science Fiction, it stands for scientific fiction, meaning stories based on any kind of science (including social, polical, and others), but with a strong focus on the sciences of nature: biology, chemistry, mathematics, physics, and astrophysics.

    Supernatural: Features prominently, but not exclusively, in Fantasy, Horror, and (*bing*) SF-stories, but has nothing to do with the science in those stories.

    Star Wars is a great example of the supernatural Force being forced on a Sci-Fi setting.

    Lost has both, Fringe says it´s SF, but it´s actually both, too.

    X-Files was supernatural with some SF aspects.

    A great pure SF tale without any supernatural stuff in it are Blade Runner and Alien/s (though you could argue that a nine-year old girl surviving weeks among Aliens is pure fantasy).
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeSep 23rd 2009
    Ralph Kruhm wrote
    Best music on TV: Battlestar Galactica. Definitely. With Doctor Who being a very close 2nd place. Lost is good, but please can we not loose our sense of reality here?

    Sci-Fi: Regardless of what you call it, SF, Sci-Fi, SyFy, or Science Fiction, it stands for scientific fiction, meaning stories based on any kind of science (including social, polical, and others), but with a strong focus on the sciences of nature: biology, chemistry, mathematics, physics, and astrophysics.

    Supernatural: Features prominently, but not exclusively, in Fantasy, Horror, and (*bing*) SF-stories, but has nothing to do with the science in those stories.

    Star Wars is a great example of the supernatural Force being forced on a Sci-Fi setting.

    Lost has both, Fringe says it´s SF, but it´s actually both, too.


    STAR WARS is often quoted as being "space opera", "space fantasy", "science fantasy" etc.
    I am extremely serious.
  1. There you go.
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeSep 23rd 2009
    Battlerstar Galactica spoiler: [spoiler] I always hoped that Battlestar Galactica would be purely sc-fi, and although it was a GREAT show and I loved it to death, the whole 'angels' thing didn't sit well with me.[/spoiler] slant
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeSep 23rd 2009
    Thor wrote
    Ralph Kruhm wrote
    Best music on TV: Battlestar Galactica. Definitely. With Doctor Who being a very close 2nd place. Lost is good, but please can we not loose our sense of reality here?

    Sci-Fi: Regardless of what you call it, SF, Sci-Fi, SyFy, or Science Fiction, it stands for scientific fiction, meaning stories based on any kind of science (including social, polical, and others), but with a strong focus on the sciences of nature: biology, chemistry, mathematics, physics, and astrophysics.

    Supernatural: Features prominently, but not exclusively, in Fantasy, Horror, and (*bing*) SF-stories, but has nothing to do with the science in those stories.

    Star Wars is a great example of the supernatural Force being forced on a Sci-Fi setting.

    Lost has both, Fringe says it´s SF, but it´s actually both, too.


    STAR WARS is often quoted as being "space opera", "space fantasy", "science fantasy" etc.


    Or SPACE PORN.
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeSep 23rd 2009
    Christodoulides wrote
    Or SPACE PORN.


    That would be STAR WHORES!

    -Erik-
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeSep 23rd 2009
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      CommentAuthorRalph Kruhm
    • CommentTimeSep 23rd 2009 edited
    Steven wrote
    Battlerstar Galactica spoiler: [spoiler] I always hoped that Battlestar Galactica would be purely sc-fi, and although it was a GREAT show and I loved it to death, the whole 'angels' thing didn't sit well with me.[/spoiler] slant
    [spoiler]I know what you mean, but I was okay with it. It would have been nice to have it that way, but they had written themselves in such a corner that there was no other way out. At least they told us from season one that God was involved. We just didn´t want to believe it. Our fault, I guess. biggrin Given what they could have done I found the way they "extroduced" Kara to be the best. After all, in any other show, she could have grown wings... vomit [/spoiler]
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeSep 23rd 2009
    Erik Woods wrote
    Christodoulides wrote
    Or SPACE PORN.


    That would be STAR WHORES!

    -Erik-


    Southall wrote
    Oh no - here we go again!


    I see we all deal with the same sport.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeSep 24th 2009
    Erik Woods wrote
    That would be STAR WHORES!

    -Erik-

    This one is Top 5.
    Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you
    • CommentAuthorAnthony
    • CommentTimeSep 25th 2009
    Did anyone catch the premiere of this? It was actually pretty damn good. It hits the ground running (maybe even too fast) and combines the sci-fi elements of Lost (Desmond's episodes in particular) with the action and pace of 24.

    The cast is likeable (apart from Sonya Walger's American accent), and there are a lot of familiar faces in it (I smiled when we saw Seth Family Guy McFarlane, and Dominic Monaghan in the preview for the next few episodes!)

    There are also a few easter eggs for other ABC shows. Aide from the uninspired "let's put a Desperate Housewives advert on the side of a bus" ones, there are some more thoughtful Oceanic Airlines billboards around and probably a few other bits I missed.

    Djawadi's music sucks as expected, but the show honestly doesn't need anything more complicated.

    With a seemingly decent budget a dodgy-CGI kept to a minimum I'm already looking forward to the next episode.

    Highly recommended!
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeSep 25th 2009
    • CommentAuthorAnthony
    • CommentTimeSep 25th 2009 edited
    I downloaded it, but it airs on channel 5 on Monday at 9.

    The opening scene is exactly the same as Lost but in Los Angeles rather than an island.

    I can't remember how I felt after watching the pilot for Lost, but I also haven't watched a new show in ages that managed to keep my attention for 40 minutes, so it can't be that bad!

    Edit: Decent article you might want to read before watching.
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
    Cool. Will watch on Monday (but why isn't it on an HD channel? - how annoying)
    • CommentAuthorAnthony
    • CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
    Regular TV sucks, hence why I get anything I want to see in 720p off the net.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
    Djawadi does the score? Oh God.

    Who is behind it, directing and producing? Any well-known dudes, J.J.Abrams again?
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
    • CommentAuthorAnthony
    • CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
    David S Goyer directs, and he wrote the new Batman movies, but also things like Jumper. Brannon Braga is also co-creator and producer, and he's a familar face (well, name at least) from season 7 of 24.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
    Not very promising to me, the crew. But i'll monitor closely to see everyone's reactions on this one, if it keeps going like this i might be tempted to watch it!
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
  2. I thought it was a great pilot. Obviously inspired by Lost´s spectacular first act, but after that getting more interesting. I don´t see the concept work as a series, but I´m hooked and will watch until it starts to suck.

    I didn´t notice the composer´s name and thought it was a good score, nothing out of the oridinary, but certainly not bad.
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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
    Ralph Kruhm wrote
    I thought it was a great pilot. Obviously inspired by Lost´s spectacular first act, but after that getting more interesting. I don´t see the concept work as a series, but I´m hooked and will watch until it starts to suck.

    I didn´t notice the composer´s name and thought it was a good score, nothing out of the oridinary, but certainly not bad.

    I just watched the pilot and I agree. For the moment, I´m hooked. Let´s wait and see which path are they taking.
    Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you
  3. Southall wrote
    Will watch on Monday

    We'll be watching it too on Monday. Sounds quite interesting.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
    I am going to watch it 720p soon too! You convinced me!
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
    • CommentAuthorAnthony
    • CommentTimeSep 26th 2009
    I wonder how long the series can continue for. Currently 13 episodes have been commissioned but it's not confirmed if this is only half of the whole season.
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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeSep 27th 2009
    Anthony wrote
    I wonder how long the series can continue for. Currently 13 episodes have been commissioned but it's not confirmed if this is only half of the whole season.

    As always, ratings will decide. First episode´s were good: 12.41 million viewers.
    Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you
  4. Anthony wrote
    Did anyone catch the premiere of this? It was actually pretty damn good. It hits the ground running (maybe even too fast) and combines the sci-fi elements of Lost (Desmond's episodes in particular) with the action and pace of 24.

    The cast is likeable (apart from Sonya Walger's American accent), and there are a lot of familiar faces in it (I smiled when we saw Seth Family Guy McFarlane, and Dominic Monaghan in the preview for the next few episodes!)

    There are also a few easter eggs for other ABC shows. Aide from the uninspired "let's put a Desperate Housewives advert on the side of a bus" ones, there are some more thoughtful Oceanic Airlines billboards around and probably a few other bits I missed.

    Djawadi's music sucks as expected, but the show honestly doesn't need anything more complicated.

    With a seemingly decent budget a dodgy-CGI kept to a minimum I'm already looking forward to the next episode.

    Highly recommended!


    I had quite the opposite impression. I thought it was extremely underwhelming, with completely unrelatable and idiotic characters that behave at the whim of writers too fascinated with their own plot than the people that populate it. After the most catastrophic event of all time, the two main characters start going about their regular jobs rather than giving a crap about, I don't know, their daughter? The cares for their daughter is addressed in a throwaway line said by the main character's wife that she "spoke to her earlier and she's fine" and that the babysitter can "stay with her until they get home." Apparently it's too much of a bother to go home and see their daughter after, again, the most catastrophic event OF ALL TIME, as they don't ever show up until midnight or so. And, I guess the babysitter must not have a family she cares to go back to. Everything everyone does in the premiere is inhuman and fucked up. The show has potential, I guess, but the character writing is laughably bad.
    • CommentAuthorAnthony
    • CommentTimeSep 27th 2009
    Now you bring it up I see what you mean, but when watching this honestly didn't occur to me. I think if the pace was any slower and there were less things on fire/kangaroos/helicopters flying into buildings I would have had time to think about it. Now you're spoiling it for me!! wink
    • CommentAuthorAnthony
    • CommentTimeSep 28th 2009
    For any UK viewers that haven't seen it already, the first episode premiers on channel 5 in about half an hour!
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeSep 29th 2009
    Channel 5 has been going for twelve and a half years and I believe this is the first time I've ever watched anything on it (except maybe for an occasional film, can't remember).

    Anyway, quite enjoyed it. Hard to see it being able to sustain a large number of episodes, but you never know.

    One question though - why do people on tv shows like this always have sex with their clothes on? What's all that about?
  5. I also thought that the show was quite enjoyable. But, as you say James, how are they going to last for 22 episodes!! And I think I read that Jack Davenport has signed on for 5 years!!
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeSep 29th 2009