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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2009
    Thor wrote
    Martijn wrote
    I never could get the hang of Japanese horror.
    Rather than zombies jumping out shouting 'boo', it's generally little girls with hair hanging in front of their faces jumping up, not actually saying anything, but the music going the equivalent of 'boo'.

    Pretty bad on the heart, but not very scary per se to me.


    Well, anything can be "banalized" if you describe it like that....like "2001 is all about dancing, really. First there is a bunch of apes running around and then this giant black marble brick suddenly appears that they all dance around and then there are all these spaceships dancing around etc.".


    Unfortunately you've just found the one person on possibly any film-related forum that would wholeheartedly agree with that assesment of 2001! biggrin

    Seriously though it's not to banalize anything: I'm just describing my reaction.
    I remain utterly unmoved by any Japanese horror film (remake or otherwise) and I've tried loads now (and not too keen on trying any more as honestly I do find them stylistically repetetive), other than the odd "boo" scare.

    To me these films are monster movies, but rather than green scaly tentacles these are generally unblinking, pale kids. It just doesn't work for me.

    I'm not dismissive of anything.
    If green tentacles scare you, great.
    If little pale kids scare you, great.
    If an unnameable nothingness scares you, great.

    That's why I attempted a slight and very incomplete analysis in my first post on why I was so moved by these films I described. It's an excercise I'd love to see repeated by other posters too!
    I'm very interested in why certain reactions are provoked, even more than the reactions per se (howver interesting they are in the first place!)
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2009
    FalkirkBairn wrote
    Timmer wrote
    I really REALLY want to see it again, even if it's crappy and cheesy I want to see it again.

    Will this keep you going until then?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ACj-eC3VFw

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J84oW2eW368


    It won't scare me at all now but I really must see it again!
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2009
    FalkirkBairn wrote
    Marselus wrote
    Timmer wrote
    I would like to know too as I have another query which is far more vague, I'd like to see if I can find it myself?

    Come on, challenge Alan.....but don´t make it so easy (see above) this time tongue wink

    Yeah, bring it on! cool


    I'll give it a go and report back here when / if, I am successful!?
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  1. REC (Spanish Version) and Dark Water (Japanese Version) are but a few of the movies that scared the living crap out of me shame
    waaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2009
    Thomas Glorieux wrote
    REC (Spanish Version) and Dark Water (Japanese Version) are but a few of the movies that scared the living crap out of me shame


    Completely agree! freezing
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  2. Christodoulides wrote
    Thomas Glorieux wrote
    REC (Spanish Version) and Dark Water (Japanese Version) are but a few of the movies that scared the living crap out of me shame


    Completely agree! freezing


    so sad the American version of Dark Water completely neglects all the strong points of the Japanese film, because they had to change the ending

    pffff, I'm glad I saw the Japanese version in the complete darkness of the living room, I couldn't sleep for the first hour tongue
    waaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2009
    Nah, i didn't even bother to see the us version. It looked too stupid (premise, cast, poster, trailer). What did they change btw?
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  3. Christodoulides wrote
    Nah, i didn't even bother to see the us version. It looked too stupid (premise, cast, poster, trailer). What did they change btw?


    in the original movie it is the elevator that sheds the water, in the American version it is a complete room, plus it changes the way the girl dissapears. Don't remember much from it though, and don't want to remember too

    Stick with the Japanese version, and you won't miss much smile
    waaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2009
    I know, i am just asking out of curiosity, i never planned on watching the us remake.
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  4. Another cool and fun topic. Thanks a lot for this. punk

    Apart from the classics I saw during my childhood (the 80s) I was genuinely terrified by movies such as Alien, The Thing, Jaws, The Exorcist, Poltergeist. All of these hold up very well, apart for Jaws which has lost its appeal. Also the Twilight Zone segment featuring John Lithgow and a monster on an airplane wing provided me lots of terrifying moments whenever I was alone in a dark room.

    But maybe the most disturbing thing I remember from back my youth is an episode from Tales of the Darkside called Monster in the Closet. Though it looks cheesy as hell 25 years later, this used to give me nightmares for days, even weeks.

    Also there is a film I cannot put my finger on: it contained a young couple and they were terrorized by alien beings. All I remember is the shot of jellyfish-like thing attaching itself to the windscreen of a car while the couple is driving, backed by very creepy sound effects (or music, I don't quite remember). This also scared me shitless.

    And I do remember vividly my first encounter with the most disturbing creature design up until that point in my young life. You're going to laugh but I was absolutely terrified by this little guy (I was 7 at the time, so can you blame me?) and the big alien with the long arms coming out of the mothership in Close Encounters. freezing
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2009
    Interesting how a clown makes most people crap in their pants, btw.
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  5. If you refer to the one in Poltergeist, I agree !
    "considering I've seen an enormous debate here about The Amazing Spider-Man and the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it, I feel myself obliged to say: TASTE DIFFERS, DEAL WITH IT" - Thomas G.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2009
    Clowns do nothing for me.

    Though I did ( immensely ) enjoy reading Stephen King's It.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2009
    DreamTheater wrote
    Also there is a film I cannot put my finger on: it contained a young couple and they were terrorized by alien beings. All I remember is the shot of jellyfish-like thing attaching itself to the windscreen of a car while the couple is driving, backed by very creepy sound effects (or music, I don't quite remember). This also scared me shitless.


    Can you remember whether it was in colour or in black & white?
    It sounds like The Blob, but I can't remember any such car scene (it's been 25 years or so since I last saw it though)

    and the big alien with the long arms coming out of the mothership in Close Encounters. freezing


    shocked
    Oh yeah! Good call!
    MAJOR creep-out, that one!

    Christodoulides wrote
    Interesting how a clown makes most people crap in their pants, btw.
    DreamTheater wrote
    If you refer to the one in Poltergeist, I agree !


    But that one was properly evil, and you could quite easily tell!
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2009
    Seriously?




    Nothing?
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      CommentAuthorDreamTheater
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2009 edited
    Martijn wrote
    DreamTheater wrote
    Also there is a film I cannot put my finger on: it contained a young couple and they were terrorized by alien beings. All I remember is the shot of jellyfish-like thing attaching itself to the windscreen of a car while the couple is driving, backed by very creepy sound effects (or music, I don't quite remember). This also scared me shitless.


    Can you remember whether it was in colour or in black & white?
    It sounds like The Blob, but I can't remember any such car scene (it's been 25 years or so since I last saw it though)



    That movie with the jellyfish-like things (it's a lot more fleshy now that I think about) I saw sometime during the late 80s I think, it was in colour, and it was a film (at least I'm guessing it was) that was made around the same time. But it had a sort cheap TV-movie style about it.

    But that one was properly evil, and you could quite easily tell!


    Oh fuck... I just crapped my pants. Thanks a lot. crazy
    "considering I've seen an enormous debate here about The Amazing Spider-Man and the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it, I feel myself obliged to say: TASTE DIFFERS, DEAL WITH IT" - Thomas G.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2009 edited
    Christodoulides wrote
    Seriously?




    Nothing?


    Your mum dressed you in girly clothes D.

    Very scary freezing
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2009
    Martijn wrote
    To me these films are monster movies, but rather than green scaly tentacles these are generally unblinking, pale kids. It just doesn't work for me.


    Well, I guess that's how we work in different ways. I think it's evident we're on quite opposite poles in what we find scary or not, though, because from the list you posted earlier, none of the titles you mention scared me in the least (except the ending of BLAIR WITCH with that kid in the corner, but even that only marginally). Oh, and except that SAPPHIRE AND STEEL thing, which I haven't seen. The human mind is a peculiar thing.
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      CommentAuthorEric
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2009
    DreamTheater wrote
    Also there is a film I cannot put my finger on: it contained a young couple and they were terrorized by alien beings. All I remember is the shot of jellyfish-like thing attaching itself to the windscreen of a car while the couple is driving, backed by very creepy sound effects (or music, I don't quite remember). This also scared me shitless.


    Could it perhaps be 'Without Warning' from 1980 ? It's about a giant alien who likes to stalk humans and one of his weapons is a bevy of flying blood sucking star fish . Here's a clip from the movie and here's the trailer ...
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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeOct 29th 2009
    Timmer wrote
    Though I did ( immensely ) enjoy reading Stephen King's It.

    Me too freezing
    Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2009
    A couple of underrated films that rely on atmosphere (rather than cheap scares) are THE ENTITY and the Swedish film DE OSYNLIGA. Both from the 80's and highly, highly disturbing. As with my other favourite horrors (ALIEN, GRUDGE, SHINING), mood and atmosphere constitute about 90% of the effectiveness for me.
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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2009
    Thor wrote
    A couple of underrated films that rely on atmosphere (rather than cheap scares) are THE ENTITY and the Swedish film DE OSYNLIGA.

    Did DE OSYNLIGA had an international title? I can´t find it in the IMDB.
    Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2009
    Marselus wrote
    Thor wrote
    A couple of underrated films that rely on atmosphere (rather than cheap scares) are THE ENTITY and the Swedish film DE OSYNLIGA.

    Did DE OSYNLIGA had an international title? I can´t find it in the IMDB.


    Sorry. It was called BESÖKERNE aka THE VISITORS:

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094730/

    http://cdon.se/media-dynamic/images/pro … 938091.jpg
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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2009
    Thanks, I´ll try to watch it, I see you like the kind of horror movies I like wink
    Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2009
    Thor wrote
    A couple of underrated films that rely on atmosphere (rather than cheap scares) are THE ENTITY and the Swedish film DE OSYNLIGA. Both from the 80's and highly, highly disturbing. As with my other favourite horrors (ALIEN, GRUDGE, SHINING), mood and atmosphere constitute about 90% of the effectiveness for me.


    I would seriously recommend Robert Wise's 1963 film The Haunting ( already mentioned as a top pick by Martijn ), a very unsettling film and far farrrrrr scarier than it's remake ( the one with Catherine Zeta Jones and a Jerry Goldsmith score and some cgi ).
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2009
    Timmer wrote
    Thor wrote
    A couple of underrated films that rely on atmosphere (rather than cheap scares) are THE ENTITY and the Swedish film DE OSYNLIGA. Both from the 80's and highly, highly disturbing. As with my other favourite horrors (ALIEN, GRUDGE, SHINING), mood and atmosphere constitute about 90% of the effectiveness for me.


    I would seriously recommend Robert Wise's 1963 film The Haunting ( already mentioned as a top pick by Martijn ), a very unsettling film and far farrrrrr scarier than it's remake ( the one with Catherine Zeta Jones and a Jerry Goldsmith score and some cgi ).


    Well, everyone agrees that the remake was laughable (even G's score was bad). But I must admit that I didn't get that scared in the original Wise film either. I need some kind of REALISM to seep through, especially important in stilted environments like a "haunted mansion" scenario. It just became too melodramatic for me.
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  6. I will have to check out this The Haunting original some time, I've only heard very good things about it. Need me something creepy.

    Very horrifying in its ambience was a Danish film I once saw called 'Nattevagten' (Nightwatch (1994), the original, not the remake with Ewan McGregor). About a guard who works night shift in a mortuary. Pretty startling stuff and neck-hair-raising moments. One to see in the dark on your own, and make it chilly in the room. The remake by the same director three years later was not as good as this one.
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2009
    Yeah, I heard good things about that as well.
    I saw the remake, and I loved Nolte's role in it (next to Brian Dennehy -who's gotten really old, incidentally sad -, Nolte is my favourite B movie heavy), but overall I wasn't too impressed.

    I gather the Danish version is way better.
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2009
    DreamTheater wrote
    I will have to check out this The Haunting original some time, I've only heard very good things about it. Need me something creepy.

    Very horrifying in its ambience was a Danish film I once saw called 'Nattevagten' (Nightwatch (1994), the original, not the remake with Ewan McGregor). About a guard who works night shift in a mortuary. Pretty startling stuff and neck-hair-raising moments. One to see in the dark on your own, and make it chilly in the room. The remake by the same director three years later was not as good as this one.


    It's a good film with certain eerie moments, and it deserves credit for being very realistic (there isn't any supernatural things in it, in fact!), but somehow it didn't strike a chord with me.

    [spoiler]One of the last scenes, where the protagonist has to cut off his arm that is chained to the wall in order to save his girlfriend, if memory serves, was quite grizzly at the time, but in light of recent output like SAW, HOSTEL etc., it's really very mild. And it's not particularly graphic either. For better or worse.[/spoiler]
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2009
    So, it's early torture porn? People find this kind of stuff actually scary?
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