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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2010
    (Quick housekeeping question: not that I mind, but why is this thread sticky?
    It's not static, so each post will bring it back to the first page anyway.
    Again, I don't mind. Just wondering if there's a specific reason.)
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
  1. I'd asked for it to be stickied just so that it wouldn't get lost if there was not much interest.
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2010
    Right-o. smile
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2010
    FalkirkBairn wrote
    I'd asked for it to be stickied just so that it wouldn't get lost if there was not much interest.


    We won't go there with the sticky. You remember??????????????
    listen to more classical music!
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2010
    It's a sticky subject alright. biggrin

    OK, enough of the polluting.
    Roll on 1932!
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
  2. sdtom wrote
    FalkirkBairn wrote
    I'd asked for it to be stickied just so that it wouldn't get lost if there was not much interest.


    We won't go there with the sticky. You remember??????????????

    Oops!
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2010
    Just give us 1932 so we can all comment on how wrong you are.
    listen to more classical music!
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      CommentAuthorFalkirkBairn
    • CommentTimeMar 26th 2010 edited
    1932 - Golden Mountains - Dmitri Shostakovich

    Pardon!?

    Not a well known movie this one, but it was Shostakovich's first film score for a talkie. Originally released in 1931 but released in the US in 1932 so it counts (remember, my rules!!) He fashioned the score into a six movement suite (Op. 30) and apparently, like today's releases there's music in the suite not contained in the film and some of the music that features in key scenes isn't in the suite.

    The suite grabs the listener straight away with some loud brass fanfares but it's the beginning of the second movement (II. Waltz: Andante) that really surprised me when I first listened to it. It all starts off with a delicate acoustic guitar sequence that's such a juxtaposition against what's just gone before.

    A lot of the rest of the score is low-key, moody with some piercing intrusions from the hard-working brass section of the orchestra (I have Capriccio's version with Michail Jurowski/Berlin Radio Symphony). The third movement (III. Fugue: Largo - Allegro) also surprises again with the use of a grand organ. And the suite finishes off in dramatic form with an increasingly deranged Funeral March and Finale.

    In sure this is one that's not very familiar to most people but it's certainly worth a listen and I'd argue up there with anything else anyone is (sure) to suggest!!
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2010 edited
    http://www.chandos.net/CD_Notes.asp?CNu … AN%2010183

    This is the recording of Golden Mountains that I have and it is a good one. Even though Shostakovich hated writing film music he did a great job. Delos is doing a re-issue of his scores from the old Russian Master material so I'm looking forward to hearing and reviewing the material. I have the three volumes of releases from Chandos.

    However, I would have picked The Most Dangerous Game from Max Steiner
    http://sdtom.wordpress.com/2008/02/06/t … mesteiner/
    Because of Naxos this is a good value.
    Thomas
    listen to more classical music!
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2010
    I would hope that others will chime in on this thread with their opinion.
    listen to more classical music!
  3. sdtom wrote
    However, I would have picked The Most Dangerous Game from Max Steiner
    http://sdtom.wordpress.com/2008/02/06/t … mesteiner/
    Because of Naxos this is a good value.
    Thomas

    For me, it was the Shostakovich or Steiner's The Most Dangerous Game. Listening to them both for this topic I just wasn't wowed by Steiner's score. Max Steiner's body of work is something that I need to approach on a score-by-score basis: some of his work just doesn't do anything for me whilst others are very good.

    You never know, maybe Steiner will feature later in the list?
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  4. sdtom wrote
    I would hope that others will chime in on this thread with their opinion.

    At least listen to the clips from each to see what the music's like.

    Tom, I was looking at the track listings for both the Naxos and Capriccio releases and I see the later version is almost 10 minutes longer than the Naxos! I'm assuming that this difference is down to tempo rather than content?
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2010
    FalkirkBairn wrote
    1932 - Golden Mountains - Dmitri Shostakovich


    That's wrong!
    That's just so very wrong!
    That's... erm...actually I have no strong opinion on 1932 at all. dizzy

    I'm completely unfamiliar with this work, BUT your description makes it look like something that is very worth checking out, so I will! beer
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
  5. Martijn wrote
    ...BUT your description makes it look like something that is very worth checking out, so I will! beer

    And if you do, let us know what you think.
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  6. sdtom wrote
    http://www.chandos.net/CD_Notes.asp?CNu … AN%2010183

    This is the recording of Golden Mountains that I have and it is a good one. Even though Shostakovich hated writing film music he did a great job. Delos is doing a re-issue of his scores from the old Russian Master material so I'm looking forward to hearing and reviewing the material. I have the three volumes of releases from Chandos.

    Listening to the Chandos clips at the moment and, to me, the guitar on the waltz track sounds really bad. Did Shostakovich mean this piece to be played by what sounds like Hawaiian electric guitar!? On this basis alone I'd recommend the Capriccio version over the Chandos.
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      CommentAuthorFalkirkBairn
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2010 edited
    1933 - King Kong - Max Steiner

    This year was the year of King Kong: with both King Kong and The Son of Kong being released this year, both with scores by Max Steiner.

    It's difficult to choose anything other this iconic score; a milestone score of quality. Steiner's music is great on all levels: it's a summation of the film in music. The effective title track gets things off to a great start and then we are thrown into a series of low-key and restrained cues that Steiner pulls off very well. (This is a movie that's not over-tracked: I believe that it's some time before the second track here is featured in the film.)

    It's a score that has tribal music, the already-mentioned restrained tracks and some excellent action scoring for the latter parts of the film. Wouldn't it have been wonderful to have been in the cinema when this movie was released, listening to Steiner's music featured in "Entrance of Kong" and awaiting the spectacle of Kong's final reveal? And Steiner's music captures that anticipation wonderfully well.

    A truly - and thoroughly deserved - iconic film score (lovingly recreated by Stromberg & Morgan for Naxos).
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2010 edited
    yeah

    fireworks punk bounce bhangra flash lol

    (Fred Steiner's recording is very good as well!)
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
  7. Did I get one right?
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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2010
    I can't imagine you would have changed your choice this time.

    If you had...

    THERE. WOULD. BE. TROUBLE. angry
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  8. 1934 - Lieutenant Kijé - Sergei Prokofiev

    Looking back I've changed my mind from Honegger and chosen this one instead. It's difficult to look beyond the popular "Troika" when this score is mentioned, but there's quite a bit more that rewards the listener.

    I believe the actual score isn't available and most people will have heard the symphonic suite that the composer put together that is based on the score. I have the St. Louis Symphony Orchestra/Slatkin version and I remember being really surprised to hear the vocal (baritone?) having always heard the non-vocal version (and more popular) version.

    Very Russian in tone (obviously) the suite is a worthy listen.
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2010
    Oh yes you certainly got this one correct for 1933. King Kong is a masterpiece!!!!!

    FalkirkBairn wrote
    Did I get one right?


    So to answer your question yes yes yes!!! cheesy
    Thomas
    listen to more classical music!
  9. For 1935 there might be a new kid on the block: since the last time I did this list there's been a significant re-recording of a great score. I need to go back and listen to the two main contenders...
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2010
    As far as "Golden Mountains" is concerned I defer to musicologist John Riley who I quote. "The temptation of Piotr is accompanied by a Hawaiian guitar and despite the negative associations it became very popular..." I have a recording of the Golden Mountain Waltz by the Berlin Radio Symphony Orchestra and I think they got it wrong just using a guitar in an almost zither like fashion. IMHO Chandos got it right.
    Thomas smile
    listen to more classical music!
  10. sdtom wrote
    As far as "Golden Mountains" is concerned I defer to musicologist John Riley who I quote. "The temptation of Piotr is accompanied by a Hawaiian guitar and despite the negative associations it became very popular..." I have a recording of the Golden Mountain Waltz by the Berlin Radio Symphony Orchestra and I think they got it wrong just using a guitar in an almost zither like fashion. IMHO Chandos got it right.
    Thomas smile

    Interesting that there's a specific reference to the use of a Hawaiian guitar - and that I managed to identify it as such!!

    The other version you may be referring to may be the version I have (Berlin Radio Symphony) and I have to admit I didn't think "zither" when I heard it but rather I felt that it was a warm acoustic guitar. It may just be down to the version we are familiar with rather than whether it's right or wrong?
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2010
    One could only imagine what Stalin felt when he heard that polynesian motif!!!
    Thomas
    listen to more classical music!
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2010
    FalkirkBairn wrote
    1934 - Lieutenant Kijé - Sergei Prokofiev

    Looking back I've changed my mind from Honegger and chosen this one instead. It's difficult to look beyond the popular "Troika" when this score is mentioned, but there's quite a bit more that rewards the listener.

    I believe the actual score isn't available and most people will have heard the symphonic suite that the composer put together that is based on the score. I have the St. Louis Symphony Orchestra/Slatkin version and I remember being really surprised to hear the vocal (baritone?) having always heard the non-vocal version (and more popular) version.

    Very Russian in tone (obviously) the suite is a worthy listen.


    A great choice, however I can't compare it with the film which I've never seen, on music merit alone this is superb.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  11. I love how Zimmer reworked the Romance for Gladiator (in Earth)
    http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2010
    eh? dizzy
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  12. Timmer wrote
    FalkirkBairn wrote
    1934 - Lieutenant Kijé - Sergei Prokofiev

    Looking back I've changed my mind from Honegger and chosen this one instead. It's difficult to look beyond the popular "Troika" when this score is mentioned, but there's quite a bit more that rewards the listener.

    I believe the actual score isn't available and most people will have heard the symphonic suite that the composer put together that is based on the score. I have the St. Louis Symphony Orchestra/Slatkin version and I remember being really surprised to hear the vocal (baritone?) having always heard the non-vocal version (and more popular) version.

    Very Russian in tone (obviously) the suite is a worthy listen.


    A great choice, however I can't compare it with the film which I've never seen, on music merit alone this is superb.

    Here you go: Lieutenant Kijé
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  13. Timmer wrote
    eh? dizzy


    First part of Zimmer's Earth in Gladiator is a Kije rip off, the Romance movement. Change solo violin for trumpet and you have it.
    http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website