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- CommentAuthorDemonStar
- CommentTimeJun 24th 2010
DreamTheater wrote
The 'War' cue still feels like a missed opportunity though and it's one of the least interesting 'long dramatic cues' he has done. I mean it doesn't build up to anything at all and feels too chaotic in the end. It's far removed from the expertly crafted "Our Best Hope" (Deep Impact), "The Launch" (Apollo 13) or "Leaving No Witnesses" (Mask of Zorro), to name but a few examples.
I think the final battle music as heard in the promo version (spanning the tracks "War","Quaritch Down" and "Fight To The Death") is a much more satisfying listen, especially as it ends with the amazing dark chorals in the third cue. The variations of the war motifs throughout are also delightful to hear.
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- CommentAuthorsdtom
- CommentTimeJun 24th 2010
Finishing up my review of the BBC WWII songslisten to more classical music! -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeJun 24th 2010
JAMES HORNER - legends of the fall
Gorgeous.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorDreamTheater
- CommentTimeJun 24th 2010
And to say he delivered one gorgeous score after another during that time. How I miss those days..."considering I've seen an enormous debate here about The Amazing Spider-Man and the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it, I feel myself obliged to say: TASTE DIFFERS, DEAL WITH IT" - Thomas G. -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeJun 24th 2010
DreamTheater wrote
And to say he delivered one gorgeous score after another during that time. How I miss those days...
1994-1996. Incredible output! Only one really blemish during that time... Jade. The rest were all outstanding!
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- CommentAuthorDreamTheater
- CommentTimeJun 24th 2010
I would include 1997, Titanic is just as brilliant.
Kind of like Williams' 1977 - 1983 period: nothing but truly legendary film music."considering I've seen an enormous debate here about The Amazing Spider-Man and the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it, I feel myself obliged to say: TASTE DIFFERS, DEAL WITH IT" - Thomas G. -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeJun 24th 2010
NP: Daybreakers - Christopher Gordon
I haven't played this since January where I thought it was a solid score but did gush about it like some have in recent days around here. I agree this is an atypical score for a Hollywood horror/thriller and I'm really looking forward to this latest spin to hopefully hear a few things I might have missed in my initial listens.
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- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeJun 24th 2010
DreamTheater wrote
I would include 1997, Titanic is just as brilliant.
Kind of like Williams' 1977 - 1983 period: nothing but truly legendary film music.
Yeah... but 1997 also had The Devil's Own. Meh. In any case the mid 90's up until about 1998 were incredibly strong years for Horner.
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeJun 24th 2010 edited
DreamTheater wrote
And to say he delivered one gorgeous score after another during that time. How I miss those days...
Yes, well, if you want to look back with rose-tinted spectacles. There was probably just as many lackluster scores then as there are now - we just tend to forget about them while remembering the good ones. I also think now is a pretty exciting time for film music, particularly as I still find myself looking forward to various projects.
Granted, it was a particularly good period for Horner, but he's still producing great music. I don't see the problem. -
- CommentAuthorDreamTheater
- CommentTimeJun 24th 2010 edited
Erik Woods wrote
DreamTheater wrote
I would include 1997, Titanic is just as brilliant.
Kind of like Williams' 1977 - 1983 period: nothing but truly legendary film music.
Yeah... but 1997 also had The Devil's Own. Meh. In any case the mid 90's up until about 1998 were incredibly strong years for Horner.
-Erik-
I like The Devil's Own... not the usual Horner scoring of those years, it was even remotely original.
And how could I forget The Mask of Zorro??? But then we could go on till 2000 (The Perfect Storm).
What the hell, 1994 - 2000: 7 fantastic years for the Horner fan in us.
"considering I've seen an enormous debate here about The Amazing Spider-Man and the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it, I feel myself obliged to say: TASTE DIFFERS, DEAL WITH IT" - Thomas G. -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeJun 24th 2010 edited
DreamTheater wrote
What the hell, 1994 - 2000: 7 fantastic years for the Horner fan in us.
You might as well include his whole career if you're using that logic. Relative to his entire output, he's created a good-or-great score almost every year. -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeJun 24th 2010 edited
Steven wrote
DreamTheater wrote
What the hell, 1994 - 2000: 7 fantastic years for the Horner fan in us.
You might as well include his whole career if you're using that logic. Relative to his entire output, he's created a good-or-great score almost every year.
We are talking about a string of GREAT scores in a row a la Williams late 70's to early 80's.
Here's Horner's output starting in 1994 ending with 1998.
Mighty Joe Young (1998)
The Mask of Zorro (1998)
Deep Impact (1998)
Titanic (1997)
The Devil's Own (1997)
Ransom (1996) for what he did in 12 some odd days... this was really, really good.
To Gillian on Her 37th Birthday (1996)
Courage Under Fire (1996)
The Spitfire Grill (1996)
Balto (1995)
Jumanji (1995)
Jade (1995) Blip
Apollo 13 (1995)
Casper (1995)
Braveheart (1995) (music composed by)
Legends of the Fall (1994)
The Pagemaster (1994)
Clear and Present Danger (1994)
So there you have 4 years of production with one outstanding score after another and really only one below average score.
Once 1999 begins you get
Bicentennial Man (1999) which I think is pants
Freedom Song (2000)
But things begin to look up with The Perfect Storm.
-Erik-
PS - Come to think of it... I really like The Devil's Own, too.host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeJun 24th 2010 edited
DreamTheater wrote
I would include 1997, Titanic is just as brilliant.
Kind of like Williams' 1977 - 1983 period: nothing but truly legendary film music.
Um... 1981 saw Heartbeeps. Pretty bad by anyone's standards, let alone John Williams's.
An interesting topic (which I know has been discussed before) is - what's the single finest year from an individual film composer? Looking at that Horner list Erik posted, 1995 is pretty remarkable - Braveheart, Apollo 13 and Balto are all tremendous and Casper and Jumanji are also very good.
Jerry Goldsmith 1979 would probably get my vote, since you've not only got two genuine film music A-grade releases (Alien and Star Trek), but also one other which isn't far behind (Great Train Robbery) and one other which is also good (Players).
So - what do others think? You need at least two world class scores in the year and at least one other score that's not far behind to be eligible, I think. What are the contenders? -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeJun 24th 2010 edited
Southall wrote
DreamTheater wrote
I would include 1997, Titanic is just as brilliant.
Kind of like Williams' 1977 - 1983 period: nothing but truly legendary film music.
Um... 1981 saw Heartbeeps. Pretty bad by anyone's standards, let alone John Williams's.
I really like Heartbeeps. The film is atrocious but I think the score is one of Williams' most unique creations. The "Crimebuster Theme" is fooking awesome!
As for great film music years... 1977... John Williams... Star Wars and Close Encounters.
1993... John Williams... Jurassic Park and Schindler's List.
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeJun 24th 2010 edited
Erik Woods wrote
Steven wrote
DreamTheater wrote
What the hell, 1994 - 2000: 7 fantastic years for the Horner fan in us.
You might as well include his whole career if you're using that logic. Relative to his entire output, he's created a good-or-great score almost every year.
We are talking about a string of GREAT score in a row a la Williams late 70's to early 80's.
You are, I'm not sure Gilles was!
Anyway, yes those four years are very impressive to say the least. My point is that I've never really pined for those days since he still produces great music. Doesn't make sense to me... but hey ho. Which I know is not the discussion now, but mostly this whole "I miss those days..." fable I don't buy into so easily. -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeJun 24th 2010
Shout at the Devil - Maurice Jarre
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- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeJun 24th 2010 edited
Steven wrote
DreamTheater wrote
And to say he delivered one gorgeous score after another during that time. How I miss those days...
Yes, well, if you want to look back with rose-tinted spectacles. There was probably just as many lackluster scores then as there are now - we just tend to forget about them while remembering the good ones. I also think now is a pretty exciting time for film music, particularly as I still find myself looking forward to various projects.
Granted, it was a particularly good period for Horner, but he's still producing great music. I don't see the problem.
What he said. Generally speaking, every era has its good and bad, and we shouldn't remain stuck. For instance, i could easily live without the 80s-90s crap in Hollywood and of course i don't think scores like AVATAR have anything to envy from the scores in his past; plus, i'd choose AVATAR over the synth porn that is Titanic anyday
Yeap, we all have our favorites to return to but time also goes forward and that's not necessarily a bad thing; it's called evolution and film music / the movies are no exception either.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeJun 24th 2010
Christodoulides wrote
...the synth porn that is Titanic ...
For the record, I am not affiliated with this man. ^ -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeJun 24th 2010
I know i know, i don't expect anyone to be but still, it's what i think about this. LEGENDS OF THE FALL is by far a superior score in all aspects, since we brought the subject up.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorchristopher
- CommentTimeJun 24th 2010 edited
Legends of the fall is superior to Titanic? Or Avatar? Either way, I agree, but if it's Titanic we're talking about I'd agree times 10. I've been listening to Legends of the Fall all morning and I am seriously stunned by how excellent this whole score is. And I've listened to it many times before. After going away from it for as long as I have and listening to so much other music, the consistent quality of this score is really highlighted. -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeJun 24th 2010
Christodoulides wrote
Steven wrote
DreamTheater wrote
And to say he delivered one gorgeous score after another during that time. How I miss those days...
Yes, well, if you want to look back with rose-tinted spectacles. There was probably just as many lackluster scores then as there are now - we just tend to forget about them while remembering the good ones. I also think now is a pretty exciting time for film music, particularly as I still find myself looking forward to various projects.
Granted, it was a particularly good period for Horner, but he's still producing great music. I don't see the problem.
What he said. Generally speaking, every era has its good and bad, and we shouldn't remain stuck.
No one is remaining stuck. All we are doing is point how remarkable Horner's work was from 94-98. He wrote great scores before and after but the consistency in his work during the mid to late 90's is absolutely incredible and some of his all time great scores were composed during this period!
Fuck... you and Steven sucked the fun out of this little exercise.
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeJun 24th 2010
Me!? I actually agreed with you Erik.
I was responding to on Gilles' comment about how he misses that particular period. I find it an odd thing to say because we a) can still enjoy those scores and b) he's still producing great music. That's the only point I was making. I certainly didn't accuse anyone of being 'stuck'.
It's an interesting discussion concerning composers' best years. -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeJun 24th 2010 edited
^ Sorry for the misinterpretation, Steven.
NP: Ward 13 - Christopher Gordon
Awesome! Those that have never seen it CHECK IT OUT!
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- CommentAuthorDreamTheater
- CommentTimeJun 24th 2010
Steven wrote
Me!? I actually agreed with you Erik. I was responding to on Gilles' comment about how he misses that particular period. I find it an odd thing to say because we a) can still enjoy those scores and b) he's still producing great music. That's the only point I was making. I certainly didn't accuse anyone of being 'stuck'.
It's an interesting discussion concerning composers' best years.
Well I miss it because I haven't heard a single score this past decade that comes close to the greatness of the 1994 - 1998 years (not counting The Perfect Storm but that's 10 years ago anyway)."considering I've seen an enormous debate here about The Amazing Spider-Man and the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it, I feel myself obliged to say: TASTE DIFFERS, DEAL WITH IT" - Thomas G. -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeJun 24th 2010
Then be glad that he had those 1994-1998 years.
Film score fans.
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- CommentAuthorDreamTheater
- CommentTimeJun 24th 2010
I miss it, that doesn't mean I'm not glad."considering I've seen an enormous debate here about The Amazing Spider-Man and the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it, I feel myself obliged to say: TASTE DIFFERS, DEAL WITH IT" - Thomas G. -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeJun 24th 2010 edited
DreamTheater wrote
I miss it, that doesn't mean I'm not glad.
Exactly! Nothing wrong with a little reminiscing of the good ole days!
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorKevinSmith
- CommentTimeJun 24th 2010
Erik Woods wrote
DreamTheater wrote
I miss it, that doesn't mean I'm not glad.
Exactly! Nothing wrong with a little reminiscing of the good ole days!
-Erik-
Except maybe doing it too much and living in the past, which film score fans are known to do on occasion
NP: King Solomon's Mines - Jerry Goldsmith, Tombstone - Bruce BroughtonRevenge is sweet... Revenge is best served cold... Revenge is ice cream. -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeJun 24th 2010 edited
DreamTheater wrote
I miss it, that doesn't mean I'm not glad.
I didn't say you weren't-- oh I give up.
Catch Me If You Can John Williams
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- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeJun 24th 2010
KevinSmith wrote
Erik Woods wrote
DreamTheater wrote
I miss it, that doesn't mean I'm not glad.
Exactly! Nothing wrong with a little reminiscing of the good ole days!
-Erik-
Except maybe doing it too much and living in the past, which film score fans are known to do on occasion
I still don't see the big deal... and film music fans are NOT the only ones who do it!
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
