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Talking Airplanes!
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- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeDec 15th 2010
Wow, now that you mention it! Indeed! -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeJan 13th 2011
Yeap, the unfortunate Polish crash last year which killed many officials and including the President of the country, was confirmed due to pilot error resulting from inexperience of all three cockpit members , extreme pshychological pressure in the cockpit (presence of the head of polish air force in the cockpit), failure to read out all the messages from the plane's systems, understand, respond and react in timely manner, only when it was too late. They should have never landed in that airport since weather was below minima. The human load, both in the cockpit and the cabin put an enormous pressure on them and overrode basic procedures and professionalism. Too sad.
Final report:
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- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeJan 13th 2011
The Russians completely avoided the fact that there also was pressure in the ATC. "Should we let them?"
"Yes, they say, let's let them land for now".http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeJan 13th 2011
There was huge pressure in the cockpit, it shows in the above report. But the pilots should have overwritten that, it's a matter of safety. Plus there's a sterile cockpit worldwide rule under which nobody is to enter the cockpit, no matter who they are, no matter what, in every state of flight which is very strict and there for a reason, obviously. They overrode that too. -
- CommentAuthorFalkirkBairn
- CommentTimeJan 13th 2011
I wouldn't be surprised if every celebrity on a plane gets to visit the cockpit on a flight they are on if they ask.The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeJan 13th 2011
Not since 9/11.http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeFeb 1st 2011
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- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeFeb 1st 2011
Woah!
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- CommentAuthorFalkirkBairn
- CommentTimeFeb 1st 2011
I take it that it's the handbrake turn the pilot executes at the end of the runway that's the problem?The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeFeb 1st 2011
Well all of it, the dangerous approach and the runway almost running up! -
- CommentAuthorLSH
- CommentTimeMay 5th 2011
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- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeMay 5th 2011
Cripes!
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- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeNov 1st 2011
Holy crap bravo to the crew ! Trying to find the video link http://avherald.com/h?article=4456bd6b&opt=0 -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeNov 1st 2011
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- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeNov 1st 2011
Awesome indeed! Massive respect to the flight crew.
Darn it D but I missed this ol' thread. -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeNov 2nd 2011
Another spectacular video camemtoda
Damn those pilots are good ! It says they lifted the plane toda with air cushions and managed to pull the gear down, rolled it to the hangar for damage inspection and found it to be surprisingly good !
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- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeNov 2nd 2011
Also the final report on that yak plane crash into the lake with the sports team came up...pretty horrible. I know it's a fad to joke about all russian pilots being drunk but this is a very serious error they did here which caused the lives of so many people...
The Russian Interstate Accident Investigation Commission (MAK) have released their final report in Russian (Attachments) concluding the probable causes of the crash were:
erroneous actions by the crew, especially by applying brake pedal pressure just before rotation as result of a wrong foot position on the pedal during the takeoff run. This led to braking forces on the main gear requiring additional time for acceleration, a nose down moment preventing the crew to establish a proper rotation and preventing the aircraft to reach a proper pitch angle for becoming airborne, overrun of the runway at high speed with the elevator fully deflected for nose up rotation (producing more than double the elevator forces required to achieve normal takeoff rotation). The aircraft finally achieved a high rate of nose up rotation, became airborne 450 meters past the runway end and rotated up to a supercritical angle of attack still at a large rate of pitch up causing the aircraft to stall at low altitude, to impact obstacles and ground, break up and catch fire killing all but one occupants.
Had the crew rejected takeoff even above V1, with about 1000 meters of runway remaining available after the failed first attempt to rotate the aircraft, an accident would have been averted.
Forensic examination revealed the presence of a psychoactive drug (phenobarbital) in the first officer's body causing an inhibiting effect on the central nervous system. Performing duties as a crew member under the influence of this drug is prohibited by Russian Law.
On the story: Crash: Yak Service YK42 at Yaroslavl on Sep 7th 2011, failed to climb on takeoff -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeNov 2nd 2011
Holy crap how do companies like that still exist in 2011 ?
- The first officer was unfit to fly due to influence of medicine (Phenobarbital). The drug had an inhibiting effect on the central nervous system
- The first officer did not conduct a number of important procedures and computation in preparation for takeoff
- The captain, conducting a balanced takeoff, took the incompetent decision to begin the takeoff roll not from the beginning of the runway
- No crew activity could be heard/observed during the takeoff run
- During the takeoff run, just prior to begin rotation, an incorrect leg position produced brake pedal pressure causing a retarding moment on the main landing wheels and a nose down moment counteracting rotation preventing rotation at Vr.
- During the takeoff run the crew fell back into the habit of operating a Yak-40 rather than a Yak-42 (most important difference: the position and feel of brake pedals)
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- CommentAuthorLSH
- CommentTimeNov 4th 2011
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- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeNov 4th 2011
Yeah, the problems of the world. -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeJan 15th 2012
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- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJan 15th 2012
There is NOTHING like being at sea, pure awesomeness.
As for that ship I've just heard on Channel 4 News that the Captain has been arrested and has been charged with multiple manslaughter. -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeJan 15th 2012 edited
Do you really hate ships?
Ships are magnificent, aesthetically and technically. Ships, like planes, share a similar romanticism about them. (They can also be creepy as fuck when they've sunk… in a fascinating sort of way.)
That said, I'm not a fan of traveling by ship. I get sea sick quite easily."Message board incredulity is the least satisfied emotion in human history." - Franz -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJan 15th 2012
I don't suffer at all, we got hit by a force 10 on the ferry to Bilbao and going out on deck in that ( while holding VERY tightly to the rail ) was MAGNIFICENT and awesomely scary too, life invigorating stuff for sure. The whole ship stank of puke in the morning though.
Planes come nowhere near the romantism of travelling by boat or train. -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeJan 15th 2012
Yeah, deep open sea frightens me and if i have a choice, i don't want to be on a ship. I don't like them at all. -
- CommentAuthorFalkirkBairn
- CommentTimeJan 15th 2012
I would love to go on a transatlantic crossing on a grand ocean liner. I just loved the cruises I was lucky enough to go on at school.The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeJan 15th 2012
Demetris wrote
Yeah, deep open sea frightens me and if i have a choice, i don't want to be on a ship. I don't like them at all.
Not even from an aesthetic and technical perspective? C'mon!"Message board incredulity is the least satisfied emotion in human history." - Franz -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeJan 15th 2012
Timmer wrote
Planes come nowhere near the romantism of travelling by boat or train.
Perhaps, though planes have a great deal of romanticism in their own right, particularly older style planes. Though of course like with anything, not all planes are quite as romantic as others, just like some boats aren't."Message board incredulity is the least satisfied emotion in human history." - Franz
