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  1. I know that music was taken from a variety of his symphonies after the composer's death and used to replace the original score written by Edmund Meisel for The Battleship Potemkin.

    I'm trying to find out what specific pieces were culled from the various symphonies to make up the new score. Does anyone know which symphonies and movements were used? I've looked around Google and can find which symphonies were used, but I'd like to know a bit more detail about which parts - and even better would be to know which scenes the parts accompanied.

    Thanks.
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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2011
    I could probably tell you if I watched the film with his music but I haven't.

    Is this the most useful post I've ever posted rolleyes wink
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  2. There are several uploads of the film on Youtube and the like. Maybe if you have a spare 70+ minutes?

    I need to check the films against Meisel's original score to see if the music is actually Shostakovich. Maybe Tim you could take a look at one to at least confirm whether it is Shostakovich's music that is featured.
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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2011 edited
    I will when I get the chance.

    Tom would be very helpful here too.

    Alternatively, you could try TallGuy on the FSM board, he's probably the biggest fan of Shostakovitch I can think of and is incredibly knowledgable regarding his music.
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  3. This is one example of the film:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlOiT28NTDA

    I've listened to the beginning of the Meisel score and it is not the same as what is heard at the beginning of this version of the film so it seems that this video contains Shostakovich music.

    Thanks for the info Tim. I'll head over there now...
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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2011
    I had a brief look, the music at the begining is ( I think? ) from his 5th symphony but I'm not sure? I can say without a doubt that the violent ( an understatement ) music for the big scene on the steps at around the 50 minute mark is symphony # 11.
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  4. The Odessa Steps sequence is of particular interest. What movement is it?
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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2011
    it's the 2nd movement.

    The whole work is amazing, the eerie parts in the 1st movement are often used in docu scenes for 'vastness of the universe' almost as often as Herrmann's music for Vertigo, it was used a lot in Carl Sagan's COSMOS.
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  5. Thanks Tim. I don't think I have any of his symphonies.
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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2011
    I seriously recommend them.

    If you go for #11, I would recommend Mstislav Rostropovich conducting the LSO.
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  6. It seems bad of me but at the moment I need a link to films for me to want to investigate further - it's a way for me to decide what to listen to. I had a list of symphonies used in the film I may hunt that down and then look for recommendations for those.
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  7. I see that Rostopovich's complete Shostakovich symphonies download is available for £29. Recommended?
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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 4th 2011
    I only have him conducting the 7th & 11th but both are brilliant. Are you sure you want ALL his symphonies? Even I am not taken with every one of them.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  8. If it is a good price for them all then I'd go for them. I'll look around and get a feel for them.
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  9. So far I have that the film contains excerpts from symphonies 4, 5, 8, 10 and 11. Music from 5 starts and ends the film and the second movement of the 11th underscores The Odessa Steps sequence (thanks Tim).

    The question has been asked over at FSM and I'm hoping that Tom can help also.

    I can feel this turning into a "project" along the lines of what I did with Kubrick's music he used in The Shining.
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  10. I now have the relevant Shostakovich symphonies - all 5+ hours of them - and am looking forward to listening to them. I've not actually seen The Battleship Potemkin except for the first 5 minutes from the beginning of the film and the Odessa steps sequence I watched yesterday. I am looking forward to watching that.

    It is going to be difficult trying to fish out the relevant music but it will be interesting. Unfortunately there has not been much interest from the FSM 'board yet.
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeMar 7th 2011
    For your information there are 5 CD's of Shostakovich film music available on the Delos label. If you go to my website you'll find 4 of the 5 reviewed. I'll do the 5th as soon as I get it.
    Thomas
    listen to more classical music!
  11. For anyone that is interested, someone has gone through The Battleship Potemkin for me and assigned Shostakovich's music to the film. Here is a link to the topic over at FSM:

    www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cf … ;archive=0

    It is an interesting topic and looking at the film and listening to how the composer's music is used it is amazing how well the music fits with the visuals. Even when large continuous chunks are used. Seems almost the film was edited to the music!

    Although I've not listened to it all, I definitely prefer Shostakovich's music to Meisel's from a listening point of view.

    Now I'm going through the film finding the specifics of what sequencies from which symphonies are used. Some areas are more edited than others to fit music to the picture but in others long swathes of a movement is used.
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  12. I've just this minute realised why I enjoy doing this sort of nerdy thing: it reminds me of when I was a child and I'd sit through something like Star Wars on video and marry up what was happening on the screen with the music (and consequently discover the edits made to the music for the album release). I used to love doing this (though it was difficult doing it with a video player and music cassette).

    Explains also why I like doing the "cue-by-cue" breakdowns every now and then.
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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2011
    cool

    Chris ( TallGuy ) really is one of the nicest guys on film music boards, a true gentleman.
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2011
    Timmer wrote
    cool

    Chris ( TallGuy ) really is one of the nicest guys on film music boards, a true gentleman.


    That he is. When I met him in Newcastle before Christmas, I tried to persuade him to come over here once in a while, but he said his online time was already limited (due to the fact that they apparently only have one computer and his teenage daughter spends most of the time on it), so he only gets to check into FSM once in a while.

    Too bad. He would have been an awesome contributor.
    I am extremely serious.
  13. Thor wrote
    He would have been an awesome contributor.

    From my experience, he has been very helpful.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeMar 10th 2011
    Friggin fsm, tell him to get rid of that and jump here!
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
  14. I am trying to document all the major snippets of Shostakovich's symphonies that are used in The Battleship Potemkin so that I can make a score playlist and compare it with Meisel's original score and I have to say that I am loving what I am hearing. So many influences for film composers. I need to go and listen to the complete symphonies when I'm done doing this.
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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 14th 2011
    I hope it'll be a very rewarding experience for you Alan, personally Shostakovith is one of my all time favourite composers.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2011
    On this board Shostakovich is virtually a forgotten composer.
    listen to more classical music!
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2011
    Not everybody likes good music Tom.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2011
    Timmer wrote
    Not everybody likes good music Tom.


    You got that one right
    listen to more classical music!
  15. Last night I finished looking through The Battleship Potemkin, finding out where music is playing (everywhere as it is a silent film!) and hunting out from which symphonies the various excerpts are taken from.

    At the moment I have about 10-15 minutes extra music from selections where there is a lot of editing of music in the film or the music makes it too difficult to select out the relevant pieces (for example, for quieter passages). And I've edited together some other passages to approximate he sequences in the film.

    I'm quite keen to now listen to what I have and compare it with the original Meisel score.
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2011
    A project that you should share with all of us as well as write about it
    listen to more classical music!