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GABRIEL YARED
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- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeOct 5th 2008
... but manages to make a 10 lb sledehammer feel like a good thing! -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeOct 5th 2008
One of the best scores I've ever heard. The producers should be shot who rejected that score!"If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it." - Albert Einstein (24th March 1954) -
- CommentAuthorChristodoulides
- CommentTimeOct 6th 2008
Steven wrote
One of the best scores I've ever heard. The producers should be shot who rejected that score!
Couldn't agree more. I guess in the world of film music, we can safely talk about one of the biggest ever FAILS on behalf of any studio and any producer / executive, ever with this one. -
- CommentAuthorBregt
- CommentTimeOct 16th 2008
My report here in a more central topic:
http://www.maintitles.net/forum/discuss … 8/#Item_19How deep is your fjord? -
- CommentAuthorTimon
- CommentTimeOct 16th 2008
Today, the 16th of october, was Yareds music seminar class here in Ghent, an initiative from the film festival and my college, curated by my filmmusic teacher. He played bits and pieces and talked about his relationship with Mr Minghella, his filmmusic, his life in the film industry, the problems on Troy, the current state of filmmusic, the good effect of Santaollala, and how he works as a omposer.
His main idea was that a good film composer is not just a film music writer but a composer. He should write music that works with the film but that should be able to stand on its own as an independent composition. In order to write so, the composer should be involved in the working proces very early on, preferably in the scripting stage, before shooting.
“The three months (or much less) that most composers get in post production is bullshit.†Yared liked to talk about the relationship between a composer and a director as a marriage. In the early stage you’re engaged, you talk about the film, you try to take all their ideas and work with that. You start writing, you let them hear your music, and you go back writing, back and forth. “I could play it to them on a piano,†he said, but often directors don‘t trust that, or lack the musical knowledge to get where I‘m going, so I play it out in demo’s. (the Vienna software has very beautiful sounds)
Examples of good marriages that he gave were Rota-Fellini, Hitch and Herrmann (although that was a difficult and hard one), and Leone&Morricone (he didn‘t mentioned Williams). In the best situation you can have your own demo’s be used as temp tracks. Editors (like his friend “the butcher†Walter Murch) can cut those demo’s while they are re-editing all the time, but your central ideas, the “cellsâ€, and the composer his musical voice stay the same.
But, he continued, the essence of film music is not sitting behind your desk, after your computer screen, with your keayboard and scoring the right spots and moments, scene after scene. It is about finding the spirit of the film. After the golden age with Steiner there was a decline. Now there aren’t many real composers who can touch you in the brain and the soul. It is about effects, for them. Th effect of hitting you in the somach, Yared said. A theme and some cheap harmonies.
[more to come] -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeOct 16th 2008
Thanks Timon, looking forward to more.BURN THE BUNNY! -
- CommentAuthorBregt
- CommentTimeOct 16th 2008
Thanks indeed! We should make this an article.
How deep is your fjord? -
- CommentAuthorTimon
- CommentTimeOct 16th 2008
Ok, we could do that. (but it will take a couple of days in order to make it better written.)
A little more on today:
When someone asked Yared if he had a predilection for strings, noticing how little brass instruments we had heard until then, Yared told us that he chooses only those instruments that he thinks are needed. And so we got to the subject of Troy, were there‘s several brass players and trumpets and etcetera.
Because he mentioned Troy already, I tought that it was the right time to ask him about that score, if he could play and speak about his themes for that film. He hesitated a bit. I felt he was somewhat bothered by the question, but he did play the Achilles theme and the lovetheme on the piano, albeit in a hurry. If only for five seconds, it was sort of a unique moment, you know. Then he proposed to play a track from that film, accompagnied by the written score being projected on a big screen, which is an offer you can‘t refuse ofcourse. And so it happened. The track he choose from the music that he had with him on a mac.book was “The Sacking of Troyâ€.
I asked if the score would ever be played live. No, he said. There's the thing about publishers and lawyers. Copyrights of him and the rights with Warner Bros. And the other reason being that those folks do not want people to know what a wonderful score they’ve decided to replace. “But that‘s a thing from the past,†he said, bowing his head a bit. At the end of the day, he’s kinda glad his name is not credited on the final result. “I can thank the [greek] gods for that,†he added quick-witted. -
- CommentAuthoromaha
- CommentTimeOct 16th 2008
thanks for this.
I was going to ask if he mentioned anything else on troy.-Gt I am the master of my fate: I am the captain of my soul. -
- CommentAuthorBregt
- CommentTimeOct 17th 2008
Pictures of Gabriel Yareds concert:
http://www.filmfestival.be/features2.cg … edition=35How deep is your fjord? -
- CommentAuthorChristodoulides
- CommentTimeOct 17th 2008
