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    • CommentAuthorAnthony
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2016
    I'll be honest - I've never been a big fan of RoTS. It's my least favourite Star Wars score, but I stuck the CD in while driving to see The Force Awakens, and the end credits version of the Throne Room and the epic version of the Force theme blew me away. I'd completely forgotten about that track.
  1. Anthony wrote
    Remember that this was - at the time - thought to be the last piece of Star Wars music Williams was going to write.

    That just makes it even more disappointing, if you ask me! Way to go out on a whimper rather than a bang.

    If I wanted to hear The Throne Room and the concert version of Leia's theme then I'd listen to A New Hope.
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2016
    Captain Future wrote
    The prequel scores reflect on loss ,decline, betrayal and death. It's Nibelungen in Space. Dark romantic melancholy.


    I sense a disturbance in the Force.
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2016
    I finally saw the remake of STAR WARS: A NEW HOPE

    I enjoyed it, good not great IMO. Same goes for the score.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2016 edited
    Anthony wrote
    Steven wrote
    PawelStroinski wrote
    If he disconnects the scores from the films, as he admits, then why would the redundancy bother him? It is a well-composed suite, sounds coherent as a separate piece, too.


    yeah

    It's a damn fine addition to the Star Wars musical world. Could there have been a more appropriate arrangement for the film? Sure, I guess. Do I care? Nope. It sounds great, gets me air-conducting every time, and I love it!


    Erik Woods wrote
    ^ IMO, it's a waste of 12 minutes of disc space and is one of laziest things Williams has ever done.

    -Erik-


    While I see both sides of the argument here, remember that this was - at the time - thought to be the last piece of Star Wars music Williams was going to write. The fact that it brings back some of the best bits from Star Wars doesn't bother me at all, though yes - the inclusion of the Grevious theme would have been nice. My least favourite part of that end credits track is the Battle Of The Heroes section!


    I don't care if it was supposed to be the last piece of Star Wars music heard. Did Williams bring back themes from Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back during the end credits of Jedi? No... of course not. But that was supposed to be the last Star Wars film as well.

    Sorry... ROTS credits suck! The conducting and performance is even weak.

    -Erik-
    host and producer of CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2016
    Wow. Weird to read such harsh words about something that is so inherently brilliant.
    I am extremely serious.
  2. By that logic you could just loop "Throne Room" and "Princess Leia" all through the entire Force Awakens film and that would be superior to the score we got because the music is "inherently brilliant".
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2016
    That's not quite the same. This is a single track that happens to have those themes in it. They're great themes. We enjoy hearing them. I care not whether they are appropriate for the context. You seem to struggle on this point. wink
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2016 edited
    Exactly. I would have understood it if, say, the music suddenly went from disco to metal to polka to orchestral music without any rhyme or reason. Then it wouldn't make musical sense. But I couldn't care less if the theme represents, say, Luke's green sock in the movie or whatever.
    I am extremely serious.
  3. Erik Woods wrote
    The conducting and performance is even weak.
    -Erik-


    I disagree, I think it's the best performance of the extended 'Throne Room' cue out there, as close to a concert version of the 'Force' theme as we've ever got. I've got three other versions of it, the Gerhardt and Skywalker Symphony performances on CD and the Gustavo Dudamel concert on Blu-Ray, are there any others?
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2016 edited
    The Cincinnati Pops performance of The Throne Room blows every other recording and performance out of the water. And Gerhardt's version of Princess Leia's theme is, IMO, the most passionate performance of the theme ever recorded.

    -Erik-
    host and producer of CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
    • CommentAuthorJosh B
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2016
    Anthony wrote
    I'll be honest - I've never been a big fan of RoTS. It's my least favourite Star Wars score, but I stuck the CD in while driving to see The Force Awakens, and the end credits version of the Throne Room and the epic version of the Force theme blew me away. I'd completely forgotten about that track.


    The biggest disappointment of RotS is the soundtrack release. The complete score is really amazing but there's so much great music that's unreleased.
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2016
    I don't get what you guys are on about. REVENGE OF THE SITH is a fine film and an even better soundtrack album. Perhaps not quite as good as PHANTOM MENACE, but better than ATTACK OF THE CLONES.

    Then again, it's all good, so these are just degrees of excellence.
    I am extremely serious.
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2016 edited
    Thor wrote
    REVENGE OF THE SITH is a fine film...


    You had to go and ruin it, didn't you? We finally agreed on something, and then you ruined everything! EVERYTHING!
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2016
    lol
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2016
    I mean angry
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  4. Steven wrote
    Thor wrote
    REVENGE OF THE SITH is a fine film...


    You had to go and ruin it, didn't you? We finally agreed on something, and then you ruined everything! EVERYTHING!


    We NEVER agreed on that bleeping bashing nonsense angry !!!
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2016
    Thor wrote
    I don't get what you guys are on about. REVENGE OF THE SITH is a fine film and an even better soundtrack album.


    The film is okay. It's the only tolerable prequel film.

    -Erik-
    host and producer of CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
    • CommentAuthorAnthony
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2016
    So the Throne Room/Force theme part of the ROTS credits is clearly just a re-recording of a concert suite - it's the same as the Kunzel album. But what/where is the original recording of that version?
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2016
    Erik Woods wrote
    Thor wrote
    I don't get what you guys are on about. REVENGE OF THE SITH is a fine film and an even better soundtrack album.


    The film is okay. It's the only tolerable prequel film.



    Yup.
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2016 edited
    Anthony wrote
    So the Throne Room/Force theme part of the ROTS credits is clearly just a re-recording of a concert suite - it's the same as the Kunzel album. But what/where is the original recording of that version?


    There is no original recording of the Throne Room concert suite. The first recorded version of the concert suite might have been Gerhardt's recording with the National Philharmonic.

    -Erik-
    host and producer of CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2016
    Martijn wrote
    Erik Woods wrote
    Thor wrote
    I don't get what you guys are on about. REVENGE OF THE SITH is a fine film and an even better soundtrack album.


    The film is okay. It's the only tolerable prequel film.



    Yup.


    Ian McDiarmid rules!
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2016 edited
    I thought he was one of the most cringing aspects of an already cringe-worthy film. His spitting performance seemed to work in Jedi, but in Sith it seemed very forced.
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2016
    ....forced. rolleyes
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2016
    Ian was really good in all the prequels until the "No.... no... you will die" and "unlimited power" bullshit. Once he turned into the Emperor is was pure cheese ball.

    -Erik-
    host and producer of CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2016
    I like the prequels. All of them. Warts and all. 'SW prequel hating' has almost become a sport. I never bought in to all of that.
    I am extremely serious.
    • CommentAuthorJosh B
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2016
    To be fair, I think the only way to salvage a line like "UNLIMITED POWER!!!!" is to completely go nuts with it, especially in the context of a big battle.
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2016
    No... it's not a sport. I, and everyone else, don't hate the prequels just because it's the cool thing to do.

    -Erik-
    host and producer of CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeJan 7th 2016
    Josh B wrote
    To be fair, I think the only way to salvage a line like "UNLIMITED POWER!!!!" is to completely go nuts with it, especially in the context of a big battle.


    Or instead of green lighting the first draft do a few re-writes and get those awful lines out of the screenplay BEFORE shooting.

    -Erik-
    host and producer of CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
  5. Isn't that, what de Dark Side is all about? Unlimited power? Creating life, becoming immortal, godlike?
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.