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[Closed] Now Playing - Part XXII
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- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeMar 11th 2008
Erik Woods wrote
NP: Mission: Impossible - Danny Elfman
I love it!
-Erik-
Oooh you old subordinate you!On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeMar 11th 2008
I know I'm going to listen to MI3 when I get in. The original MI feels like a ''rainy day'' score. Today it's a clear blue sky, so Giacchino wins! -
- CommentTimeMar 11th 2008 edited
In terms of scores:
Star Wars / Empire / Jedi
Phantom Menace / Attack of the Clones / Revenge of the Sith
Spider-Man / Spider-Man 2 / Spider-Man 3
Back To The Future / Pt. 2 / Pt. 3
Raiders / Doom / Crusade
Jurassic Park / The Lost World / JP3
Alien / Aliens / Alien3 / Alien Resurrection
The Mummy / The Mummy Returns
Black Pearl / Dead Man's Chest / At World's End
First Blood / Rambo II / Rambo III
Bourne Identity / Supremacy / Ultimatum
Harry Potter / Chamber of Secrets / Prisoner of Azkaban / Goblet of Fire / Order of the Phoenix
Fellowship of the Ring / The Two Towers / Return of the King
...a weak theory indeed. -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeMar 11th 2008 edited
If only scores got better as they progressed. I still don't understand how people believe Ultimatum is better than Supremacy. It bottles the mind, but it's their opinion. -
- CommentTimeMar 11th 2008 edited
Anthony wrote
If only scores got better as they progressed. I still don't understand how people believe Ultimatum is better than Supremacy. It bottles the mind, but it's their opinion.
The original album edit gives a poor representation of the score. Take a couple of cues away and shuffle it about a bit an it's the first album I go for if I'm in a Bourne mood.
And yes, it is our opinion. Thanks for that.
...I should also add it's not a case of believing one is better than the other, that's a dodgy assumption. I simply prefer it over the other scores, whichever set of sequels that may be. -
- CommentTimeMar 11th 2008
Anthony wrote
If only scores got better as they progressed. I still don't understand how people believe Ultimatum is better than Supremacy. It bottles the mind, but it's their opinion.
Indeed. Supremacy is by far the most superior of the 3.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeMar 11th 2008
And oh my God at my appalling spelling. But I am juggling with annoying customers on the phone, so don't blame me! -
- CommentTimeMar 11th 2008
Erik Woods wrote
Marselus wrote
^ I agree completely with your post. The fact that I don´t consider it memorable doesn´t mean I don´t like it or that I don´t enjoy the cues you mention (and many more, such as the Lost-esque duo "World's Worst Last 4 Minutes To Live" - "Reparations"). It was probably one of the best scores of 2006. It´s simply that I doubt that it was a film music getaway for anybody (as I´m sure have been his videogames scores or his "Lost" music).
Just so you know that I'm being objective I don't think that M:I3 is the best thing Michael has ever written. Actually, I don't even think it's the best M:I film score. That award goes to Elfman.
-Erik-
Wow, you can say I contradict myself but I do think it´s the best M:I film score. I never liked Elfman´s (boring) and Zimmer´s (boring / out of place everywhere). Not Giacchino´s best score (at all), but a fine action score.
Oh, and I never doubted you were being objective, just are my two cents about itAnything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you -
- CommentTimeMar 11th 2008
Christodoulides wrote
Anthony wrote
If only scores got better as they progressed. I still don't understand how people believe Ultimatum is better than Supremacy. It bottles the mind, but it's their opinion.
Indeed. Supremacy is by far the most superior of the 3.
Agree, but AS HEARD ON CD (the score in the film is basically a recycled mix of the former scores). Ultimatum is the natural evolution of the Bourne sound, with (almost) all the themes from the previous scores and the mix of real orchestra and electronics that he has developed since Bourne 1.Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeMar 11th 2008
Marselus wrote
Christodoulides wrote
Anthony wrote
If only scores got better as they progressed. I still don't understand how people believe Ultimatum is better than Supremacy. It bottles the mind, but it's their opinion.
Indeed. Supremacy is by far the most superior of the 3.
Agree, but AS HEARD ON CD (the score in the film is basically a recycled mix of the former scores). Ultimatum is the natural evolution of the Bourne sound, with (almost) all the themes from the previous scores and the mix of real orchestra and electronics that he has developed since Bourne 1.
I personally thought it felt like a step backward. The film had way too much temping going on, and most of the "new" material was just re-orchestrated trash. At least going from Identity to Supremacy we got a hell of a lot of new themes and orchestrations introduced (the Goa theme, and more specifically the Goa chase theme which became an action highlight in the sequels). Ultimatum didn't really do anything new. It seemed like "well we'll switch that bassoon with some violins and make it dramatic...yeah, that'll work." -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeMar 11th 2008
Christodoulides wrote
Anthony wrote
If only scores got better as they progressed. I still don't understand how people believe Ultimatum is better than Supremacy. It bottles the mind, but it's their opinion.
Indeed. Supremacy is by far the most superior of the 3.
YEP!On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentTimeMar 11th 2008
Timmer wrote
Christodoulides wrote
Anthony wrote
If only scores got better as they progressed. I still don't understand how people believe Ultimatum is better than Supremacy. It bottles the mind, but it's their opinion.
Indeed. Supremacy is by far the most superior of the 3.
YEP!
YEP!
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeMar 11th 2008 edited
Steven wrote
In terms of scores:
Star Wars / Empire / Jedi
Phantom Menace / Attack of the Clones / Revenge of the Sith
Spider-Man / Spider-Man 2 / Spider-Man 3
Back To The Future / Pt. 2 / Pt. 3
Raiders / Doom / Crusade
Jurassic Park / The Lost World / JP3
Alien / Aliens / Alien3 / Alien Resurrection
The Mummy / The Mummy Returns
Black Pearl / Dead Man's Chest / At World's End
First Blood / Rambo II / Rambo III
Bourne Identity / Supremacy / Ultimatum
Harry Potter / Chamber of Secrets / Prisoner of Azkaban / Goblet of Fire / Order of the Phoenix
Fellowship of the Ring / The Two Towers / Return of the King
...a weak theory indeed.
Hmmmmm? I find myself agreeing with a lot of those, in fact apart from the Elfman & Zimmer scores that don't mean much to me I'd only change two for my own personal gratification and that's...
Pt.1 / Pt.2 / Back To The Future Pt.3
Bourne Identity / Supremacy / Ultimatum
Though this is just being picky because all six parts are good.
Anymore?
Predator / Predator 2
Robocop / Robocop 2 / Robocop 3
Superman / Superman blah / blah / blah / and Returns blah
X-Men / X-Men II / X-Men III
On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentTimeMar 11th 2008
Anthony wrote
Marselus wrote
Christodoulides wrote
Anthony wrote
If only scores got better as they progressed. I still don't understand how people believe Ultimatum is better than Supremacy. It bottles the mind, but it's their opinion.
Indeed. Supremacy is by far the most superior of the 3.
Agree, but AS HEARD ON CD (the score in the film is basically a recycled mix of the former scores). Ultimatum is the natural evolution of the Bourne sound, with (almost) all the themes from the previous scores and the mix of real orchestra and electronics that he has developed since Bourne 1.
I personally thought it felt like a step backward. The film had way too much temping going on, and most of the "new" material was just re-orchestrated trash. At least going from Identity to Supremacy we got a hell of a lot of new themes and orchestrations introduced (the Goa theme, and more specifically the Goa chase theme which became an action highlight in the sequels). Ultimatum didn't really do anything new. It seemed like "well we'll switch that bassoon with some violins and make it dramatic...yeah, that'll work."
A step backward?! Hell no!
Of course the film had too much temping, and the score IN the film was, as you say, reorchestrated material (I wouldn´t say trash) from the previous two.
But as heard ON cd, with all the new music (or new arrangements) that Powell wrote for the third part (which for some reason the director didn´t use) the experience is quite improving.
Some examples:
-The epic version of one of the main themes heard in "Six Weeks Ago".
-"Tangiers": ok, reusing some former material, but adding enough elements to make it sound almost as new.
-"Thinking of Marie": a 4 minute version of "GOA", developing Marie´s theme.
-"Waterloo": again reusing stuff from parts 1 and 2, but what a way of reusing music!
-"Jason is Reborn": what a way to end a trilogy, resuming most of the tunes of the three films.
-The End Credits version of "To the Roof" (sadly not on the cd).Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeMar 11th 2008
Unfortunatly I view those in a completly different light.
- The ''epic'' version of the theme = annoying as hell.
- ''Tangiers'' is just ''Berlin Footchase'' with some different percussion (it's been switched in the movie with "Berlin Footchase'' too!)
- Thinking of Marie...probably the emotional highlight of the album, still nothing mindblowing though.
- Waterloo = Gathering Data + Moscow Wind Up = Original/Good re-use? I hardly think so.
- Jason Is Reborn - Worst. Bourne. Cue. Ever. Dramatic strings for the suck!
- The ''To The Roof Remix'' - something I actually enjoyed from the score. Shame it wasn't released.
Sorry I disagree with everything. -
- CommentTimeMar 11th 2008 edited
Anthony wrote
Unfortunatly I view those in a completly different light.
- The ''epic'' version of the theme = annoying as hell.
- ''Tangiers'' is just ''Berlin Footchase'' with some different percussion (it's been switched in the movie with "Berlin Footchase'' too!)
- Thinking of Marie...probably the emotional highlight of the album, still nothing mindblowing though.
- Waterloo = Gathering Data + Moscow Wind Up = Original/Good re-use? I hardly think so.
- Jason Is Reborn - Worst. Bourne. Cue. Ever. Dramatic strings for the suck!
- The ''To The Roof Remix'' - something I actually enjoyed from the score. Shame it wasn't released.
Sorry I disagree with everything.
LOL
You disagree with everything! Not even "Thinking of Marie" or "Jason is Reborn" (worst Bourne cue ever?!! --> :Anthony falling down: )
At least we agree on Identity and UltimatumAnything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you -
- CommentTimeMar 11th 2008
The third Bourne might not exactly be a step backward but surely it is way inferior compared to the mastery of the 2nd installment. Can't see what people are finding to it.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentTimeMar 11th 2008
^ ....some for you too then
NP Lost - Season 2 (Michael Giacchino)
After all the excitement today I can´t play anything else.Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeMar 11th 2008
Erik Woods wrote
Marselus wrote
^ The new Star Trek movie is his chance to compose his first big FILM score (and to use more choir). I´m really looking forward to it.
And 110 players on M:I3 wasn't BIG enough for ya?
-Erik-
Too big for me!A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentTimeMar 11th 2008 edited
NP: Atonement - Dario Marianelli
I just can't get enough of Elegy For Dunkirk - it is one of the most inspirational cues I have heard in the past 12 months, it really touches the soul. I was left dumbfounded the first time I listened to it and it never gives up. It's place in the film and the lyrics of the hymn make it a most poignant experience and it will remain one of my favourite cues from 2007.
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- CommentTimeMar 11th 2008
LSH wrote
NP: Atonement - Dario Marianelli
I just can't get enough of Elegy For Dunkirk - it is one of the most inspirational cues I have heard in the past 12 months, it really touches the soul. I was left dumbfounded the first time I listened to it and it never gives up. It's place in the film and the lyrics of the hymn make it a most poignant experience and it will remain one of my favourite cues from 2007.
Indeed. All the score is an impressive achievement, but "Elegy for Dunkirk" is touching and pure beauty, both in the picture and outside of it.Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeMar 11th 2008
As it should be, because the devastation that war wreaks on young man is as beautiful as a cello solo. Lesser composers might have tried scoring the scene with something avante-garde that spoke more to the ugliness of war.
NP: Regeneration (Danna)A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentTimeMar 11th 2008
LSH wrote
NP: Atonement - Dario Marianelli
I just can't get enough of Elegy For Dunkirk - it is one of the most inspirational cues I have heard in the past 12 months, it really touches the soul. I was left dumbfounded the first time I listened to it and it never gives up. It's place in the film and the lyrics of the hymn make it a most poignant experience and it will remain one of my favourite cues from 2007.
Couldn't agree more!Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentTimeMar 11th 2008
franz_conrad wrote
Erik Woods wrote
Marselus wrote
^ The new Star Trek movie is his chance to compose his first big FILM score (and to use more choir). I´m really looking forward to it.
And 110 players on M:I3 wasn't BIG enough for ya?
-Erik-
Too big for me!
Well, as far as i am concerned, there's not a "too" and a "big" together in the same sentenceLove Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentTimeMar 12th 2008
LSH wrote
NP: Atonement - Dario Marianelli
I just can't get enough of Elegy For Dunkirk - it is one of the most inspirational cues I have heard in the past 12 months, it really touches the soul. I was left dumbfounded the first time I listened to it and it never gives up. It's place in the film and the lyrics of the hymn make it a most poignant experience and it will remain one of my favourite cues from 2007.
I haven't seen the movie yet, but I really enjoy Marianelli's score outside of the film. I'm looking forward to seeing it.
NP: Murder in the First - Christopher Young
Romantic string writing is not something I would normally associate with Young, but there it is. There is some excellent material here, to be sure! -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeMar 12th 2008
Christodoulides wrote
Well, as far as i am concerned, there's not a "too" and a "big" together in the same sentence
This need not concern you then.A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentTimeMar 12th 2008
franz_conrad wrote
Erik Woods wrote
Marselus wrote
^ The new Star Trek movie is his chance to compose his first big FILM score (and to use more choir). I´m really looking forward to it.
And 110 players on M:I3 wasn't BIG enough for ya?
-Erik-
Too big for me!
The Incredibles was his first score and first big film score. -
- CommentTimeMar 12th 2008
Steven wrote
franz_conrad wrote
Erik Woods wrote
Marselus wrote
^ The new Star Trek movie is his chance to compose his first big FILM score (and to use more choir). I´m really looking forward to it.
And 110 players on M:I3 wasn't BIG enough for ya?
-Erik-
Too big for me!
The Incredibles was his first score and first big film score.
First score? First BIG film score yes... but first film score... NO!
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeMar 12th 2008 edited
Steven wrote
franz_conrad wrote
Erik Woods wrote
And 110 players on M:I3 wasn't BIG enough for ya?
-Erik-
Too big for me!
The Incredibles was his first score and first big film score.
??
Edit - Ah, you weren't replying to me!A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentTimeMar 12th 2008
Erik Woods wrote
Steven wrote
franz_conrad wrote
Erik Woods wrote
Marselus wrote
^ The new Star Trek movie is his chance to compose his first big FILM score (and to use more choir). I´m really looking forward to it.
And 110 players on M:I3 wasn't BIG enough for ya?
-Erik-
Too big for me!
The Incredibles was his first score and first big film score.
First score? First BIG film score yes... but first film score... NO!
-Erik-
Ah. What was his first film score then?