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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeNov 25th 2011
    Understood Jon, and empathise with the underlying sentiments (even if I can't really get behind your conclusions: I don't think any of the recent reviews are cringeworthy, nor do I think Thomas in any way, shape or form looks 'stupid').

    Maybe we can get some more opinions in?
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
  1. Jon Broxton wrote
    No, I genuinely didn't know what it meant! I didn't know whether he intended to say "it doesn't sound like 300" or "it's not as good as 300", which are two totally different ideas... although, I have to say, neither of which would usually be expressed with the word "win".


    then let me clarify something with you Jon,

    300 is about soldiers trying to WIN a battle, immortals is about soldiers trying to WIN a battle, hence Immortals doesn't WIN of 300

    I don't think that's too difficult is it? I like to play with words, I put words in a certain context, so that they get various meanings. I know this is not the preferred English, but I put it in there deliberately, because I want to play with the context of 300 and Immortals. It's to have a bit of fun. Nothing more, nothing less. If you want your reviews to be serious and accurate, that's fine by me. Your reviews are awesome, and I respect you enormously for your talent and skill. I on the other hand take it seriously enough, but I want to make them fun as well. And considering most people do like or at least accept the reviews I write, that is enough for me.

    Personally, I'm getting tired about the personal attacks. I know where my place is in the long list of reviewers, I do know that. And I know it's way down there. But I have a personal style and I like it. It's far from perfect, but at least I know I make people smile with the little anecdotes I put in my reviews. And I know that there are quotes or tag-lines that amuse the people here. Because they are there to be funny. Nothing more. Stop taking my reviews so seriously, and start concentrating on your own work. If you don't like what I write, no problem, stop reading them (or you have to be a masochist). The fact you're putting the time and effort in them is to make me look like an ass on this forum. And honestly, I do that myself. I don't need your help to do that.

    Jon, if you think you're gonna convince me to stop reviewing, or god willingly change my style, you're dead wrong. There are other people who can convince me of that, people with more human skills. Throw me of the IFMCA board if you think I make them look ridiculous. For me Maintitles is more than enough, and forever will be

    Yours Truly,

    A WINNING REVIEWER wave
    waaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh
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      CommentAuthorJon Broxton
    • CommentTimeNov 26th 2011 edited
    Thomas Glorieux wrote
    300 is about soldiers trying to WIN a battle, immortals is about soldiers trying to WIN a battle, hence Immortals doesn't WIN of 300


    It still looks weird to me, but whatever. i'll take your word for it.

    Thomas Glorieux wrote
    I don't think that's too difficult is it? I like to play with words, I put words in a certain context, so that they get various meanings. I know this is not the preferred English, but I put it in there deliberately, because I want to play with the context of 300 and Immortals. It's to have a bit of fun. Nothing more, nothing less. If you want your reviews to be serious and accurate, that's fine by me. Your reviews are awesome, and I respect you enormously for your talent and skill. I on the other hand take it seriously enough, but I want to make them fun as well. And considering most people do like or at least accept the reviews I write, that is enough for me.


    And that, right there, is what frustrates me the most. You see what you wrote there, in the paragraph I quoted? Perfect grammar. Not a single spelling error, no major grammatical problems, full-formed thoughts. Why can't you write like that in your reviews??? biggrin This is the point I'm making... it's not a personal attack. Your opinions and ideas are great, and your humor and everything, no problem... you just express them so strangely, with such weird syntax and bizarre sentence structure, I have to read them several times to actually understand what point you're trying to make. I can't believe that you would intentionally want to confuse some of your readers, or not care that they don't understand what you're saying!

    But you clearly CAN write in really good English - because you just did it! Right there!! Do that in your reviews, without losing any of your insight or quirky humor, and I'll be a happy camper!

    Thomas Glorieux wrote
    A WINNING REVIEWER wave


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  2. Thank you Jon for being such a good sport about it. Once again I'll try to do my best when reviewing a particular score, making sure the review reads fluently enough for an outsider.

    Personally Immortals is an average review of me, but to call it cringe worthy is stretching it a bit I think. Personal impression of course, but it reads okay enough (for me).

    Ps, if people need to read my reviews multiple times to fully understand them, I take that as a compliment, it means there are deeper things or qualities hidden within wink
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      CommentAuthorScribe
    • CommentTimeNov 26th 2011
    I just enjoy the way non-native English speakers create new turns of phrase that create new insights into the potential meanings of words.
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  3. that's another way of putting it smile
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeAug 4th 2012
    New interview with Morris, http://www.beatweek.com/interviews/1284 … e-borgias/
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeFeb 22nd 2013
    Trevor Morris Scoring the History Channel’s ‘Vikings’

    http://filmmusicreporter.com/2013/02/21 … s-vikings/
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      CommentAuthorlp
    • CommentTimeFeb 22nd 2013
    Demetris wrote
    Trevor Morris Scoring the History Channel’s ‘Vikings’

    http://filmmusicreporter.com/2013/02/21 … s-vikings/


    I'm expecting something along the line of King Arthur.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2013
    Olympus has fallen

    http://www.amazon.com/Olympus-Fallen-Pi … d_add_1_dp
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2013
    I've been watching the first two episodes of THE VIKINGS (obviously...given my heritage), and while I think Morris' score is good, the series itself is pants. Glossy Hollywood vikings with only marginal relevance to the 'real thing'. Why is it so damn hard for filmmakers -- even Norwegians -- to make good and credible viking films? I would want to see one in the style of THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST.
    I am extremely serious.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2013
    Thor wrote
    I've been watching the first two episodes of THE VIKINGS (obviously...given my heritage), and while I think Morris' score is good, the series itself is pants. Glossy Hollywood vikings with only marginal relevance to the 'real thing'. Why is it so damn hard for filmmakers -- even Norwegians -- to make good and credible viking films? I would want to see one in the style of THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST.


    I haven't seen it. I know a bit about Vikings ( at least their role in Britain ) so what are they getting wrong?
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2013 edited
    Timmer wrote
    Thor wrote
    I've been watching the first two episodes of THE VIKINGS (obviously...given my heritage), and while I think Morris' score is good, the series itself is pants. Glossy Hollywood vikings with only marginal relevance to the 'real thing'. Why is it so damn hard for filmmakers -- even Norwegians -- to make good and credible viking films? I would want to see one in the style of THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST.


    I haven't seen it. I know a bit about Vikings ( at least their role in Britain ) so what are they getting wrong?


    The clothes, the mannerisms, the clichéed portrayals. And the fact that they're too contemporary and clean-looking. Typical of Hollywood, it is set in "Scandinavia" as if that were a country. Suddenly, however, you see Northern lights, which is only visible in the far North of Norway and Sweden, and then the next moment they talk about travelling west (to Britain). Few of the Northernmost tribes travelled to Britain. Stuff like that. It's the Hollywood version of vikings.

    And of course they speak English, but I realize it's difficult to expect anything else for an American audience.
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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2013
    Just so I'm getting this right, is it a drama or a docu-drama?

    You're right about Northern tribes, the majority of Vikings in Britain were Danes.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2013 edited
    Timmer wrote
    Just so I'm getting this right, is it a drama or a docu-drama?


    It's a straight drama, produced for History Channel (like THE BIBLE). It looks kinda good, visually, so there must be lots of money in it (also like THE BIBLE). And it's clearly modelled after the success of GAME OF THRONES (although nowhere near as brilliant, of course).
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  4. Timmer wrote
    Just so I'm getting this right, is it a drama or a docu-drama?

    You're right about Northern tribes, the majority of Vikings in Britain were Danes.


    Whereas the Angli came from northern Germania much earlier:

    http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Angeln.jpg

    cow
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2013
    Captain Future wrote
    Timmer wrote
    Just so I'm getting this right, is it a drama or a docu-drama?

    You're right about Northern tribes, the majority of Vikings in Britain were Danes.


    Whereas the Angli came from northern Germania much earlier:

    http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Angeln.jpg

    cow


    Everybody loves Britain!
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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2013
    Don't they/we just! We're one super fucked up bastardised nation. cool
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  5. Thor wrote
    I've been watching the first two episodes of THE VIKINGS (obviously...given my heritage), and while I think Morris' score is good, the series itself is pants. Glossy Hollywood vikings with only marginal relevance to the 'real thing'. Why is it so damn hard for filmmakers -- even Norwegians -- to make good and credible viking films? I would want to see one in the style of THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST.


    Gibson wanted to make a Viking movie once, I don't know what really happened with the project.
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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2013
    That's right, he wanted it in native tongues too, would have been interesting.
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2013 edited
    Timmer wrote
    That's right, he wanted it in native tongues too, would have been interesting.


    Indeed. And preferably not native tongue with an American accent, which happens all too often when they try to emulate Norwegian in Hollywood films. In this case, they would also need to research old norse, not just contemporary Norwegian/Danish/Swedish.
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  6. Thor wrote
    Timmer wrote
    That's right, he wanted it in native tongues too, would have been interesting.


    Indeed. And preferably not native tongue with an American accent, which happens all too often when they try to emulate Norwegian in Hollywood films. In this case, they would also need to research old norse, not just contemporary Norwegian/Danish/Swedish.


    It's the same with German. German officers in "War Horse" for instance: Wrong grammar, wrong pronunciation. Hollywood is teeming with Germans. Should not be too difficult to get it straight.
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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2013 edited
    Just employ good German actors and voila!!!
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  7. Just employ good German actors and viola!!!


    Not enough composers employ the viola these days...
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2013
    Put my 'i' in the wrong place. rolleyes smile
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2013
    Timmer wrote
    Put my 'i' in the wrong place. rolleyes smile


    That's what she said....
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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2013
    There's no 'i' in Tim........errrrrr............. shame
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  8. What is it that this thread was about? Right: !!! Trevor Morris !!!

    I very much like his The Pillars of the Earth and I am madly in love with his 4th season score of The Tudors, especially the last five cues.

    punk love
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2013
    James Horner
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  9. Timmer wrote
    James Horner

    What about him?
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.