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  1. Fair enough. I guess I like to be a bit more analytical, at least the first time through a score, really get to know every nook and cranny, and then decide for myself what is worth revisiting going forward.

    This may explain why I never listen to as much music as I would like. It just takes too damn long! tongue
    • CommentAuthorjb1234
    • CommentTimeFeb 19th 2018
    I still haven't been able to make it through Black Panther because every time I hear a decent cue, it's followed by one that's mostly just drumming and electronics and I completely lose interest. By all reports, it works great in the film and is one of the better MCU scores but as a soundtrack release, it's an utter failure.
  2. It would be a great release if the lengthy version was offered (digital-only if need be) in addition to a well-produced album edit...alas...
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeFeb 19th 2018
    1. Wakanda Origins
    2. Royal Talon Fighter
    3. Wakanda
    4. Warrior Falls
    5. The Jabari
    6. Waterfall Fight
    7. Ancestral Plane
    8. Casino Brawl
    9. Busan Car Chase
    10. Is This Wakanda?
    11. Killmonger vs T'Challa
    12. Loyal to the Throne
    13. Wake Up T'Challa
    14. The Great Mound Battle
    15. Glory to Bast
    16. The Jabari Pt II
    17. A Kings Sunset
    18. A New Day
    19. Spaceship Bugatti
    20. United Nations / End Titles

    69 minutes. It's really tough to leave ANY of those cues out!

    -Erik-
    host and producer of CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeFeb 19th 2018
    Really? uhm There's a lot of African drumming and chanting I would scrap.
    • CommentAuthorMogens
    • CommentTimeFeb 19th 2018
    Steven wrote
    Really? uhm There's a lot of African drumming and chanting I would scrap.

    yeah
    Luminous beings are we.. Not this crude matter.
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeFeb 19th 2018
    Steven wrote
    Really? uhm There's a lot of African drumming and chanting I would scrap.


    All that African drumming and chanting is essential to the scores success and unique sound pallet. Thats like saying there’s too much choir in The Omen. rolleyes

    -Erik-
    host and producer of CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
    • CommentAuthorMogens
    • CommentTimeFeb 19th 2018
    Erik Woods wrote
    Steven wrote
    Really? uhm There's a lot of African drumming and chanting I would scrap.


    All that African drumming and chanting is essential to the scores success and unique sound pallet. Thats like saying there’s too much choir in The Omen. rolleyes

    -Erik-


    What I think Steven was trying to say - that's certainly how I understood his comment - is that there is simply a lot of redundancy here, not that the drumming and chanting shouldn't be there.

    The big problem for me is the running time. At 95 minutes - and even at the 69 you suggested, Erik - the album is just far too long. There's a real fine - although IMO not spectacularly good - 50 minute album buried here.
    Luminous beings are we.. Not this crude matter.
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeFeb 19th 2018
    Then strip 19 minutes from my playlist.

    I agree the 90 minute running time doesn’t work but I listened to my version last night and I think it works much better. It really is a fantastic score.

    -Erik-
    host and producer of CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
  3. To legitimate an expanded or complete release the music needs to have stood the test of time. For current releases I prefer a well produced album. To get thrown the lot of the material seems lazy. For me the enjoyment of the music is often determined by how much I like the film. So for my personal film favourites C&C releases are a way to relive the film on the abstract level of music. Yet well done albums have an aesthetic appeal in their own right.

    Volker
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeFeb 19th 2018
    Mogens wrote
    Erik Woods wrote
    Steven wrote
    Really? uhm There's a lot of African drumming and chanting I would scrap.


    All that African drumming and chanting is essential to the scores success and unique sound pallet. Thats like saying there’s too much choir in The Omen. rolleyes

    -Erik-


    What I think Steven was trying to say - that's certainly how I understood his comment - is that there is simply a lot of redundancy here, not that the drumming and chanting shouldn't be there.


    yeah

    I'd want to cut out choir from The Omen if there was too much of it. But there isn't, so I don't.
  4. Steven wrote
    Black Panther Ludwig Göransson

    The theme is pretty solid, but most of it is so boring.

    Trying Erik's 70-minute playlist and even this is a struggle. It's certainly a distinctive sound but it's such a tedious listen. And I like percussion.
    The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn
    • CommentAuthorjb1234
    • CommentTimeFeb 20th 2018
    FalkirkBairn wrote
    Steven wrote
    Black Panther Ludwig Göransson

    The theme is pretty solid, but most of it is so boring.

    Trying Erik's 70-minute playlist and even this is a struggle. It's certainly a distinctive sound but it's such a tedious listen. And I like percussion.


    Yeah, I'm having trouble with it too. But he retained the first seven cues and just getting through those was a struggle when I first listened to the full album, haha. It's probably just not a score for me. I don't really care for all the drumming.
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeFeb 20th 2018
    Wow! The first 30 minutes is what grabbed a hold of me during my first listen! Wonderful, creative, interesting ideas with a great heroic theme and some of the best percussion work I've heard in a score in a long time. IMO, there's a wonderful flow to the music. Oh well...

    -Erik-
    host and producer of CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorAtham
    • CommentTimeFeb 20th 2018
    I'm enjoying it on the most part. Some of it kind of reminds me of Goldsmith in "Africa mode".
    Definitely one of the top tier Marvel scores for me!
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      CommentAuthorWashu
    • CommentTimeFeb 20th 2018
    Listening to some classics:

    All for Mankind - Brian Eno

    Some of the finest film music of all time this, and it is also Eno's best film score. Mood music has rarely been done better.

    Brother - Joe Hisaishi

    This score contains some of the best film music of all time too. One of the 10 best scores of 2000 and and a top 20 Hisaishi score.

    Stalker - Eduard Artemyev

    This is some of the best film music of all time this as well. The two cues Train and Meditation in particular.
    • CommentAuthorjb1234
    • CommentTimeFeb 20th 2018
    Star Trek: Insurrection - Jerry Goldsmith

    I have a deep affection for this late-period Goldsmith score. Beautiful opening theme (shockingly barely used), thundering action music and as usual with this composer, far better than the film it was written for.
  5. Washu wrote
    Listening to some classics:

    All for Mankind - Brian Eno

    Some of the finest film music of all time this, and it is also Eno's best film score. Mood music has rarely been done better.


    "For All Mankind" cheesy
    I agree. One might mention that the music was released on the album Soundtracks and Atmospheres

    Volker
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
  6. jb1234 wrote
    Star Trek: Insurrection - Jerry Goldsmith

    I have a deep affection for this late-period Goldsmith score. Beautiful opening theme (shockingly barely used), thundering action music and as usual with this composer, far better than the film it was written for.


    I love that score and I also like the film quite a bit. Probably the most "Roddenberryan" story since The Motion Picture.

    Volker
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
  7. NP: Que Baje Dios y Lo Vea - Fernando Velázquez

    An enjoyable score for this Spanish comedy. Some familiar comedic score devices mixed with religious elements (tubular bell and organ) make this a typically accomplished score from Velázquez.
    The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeFeb 21st 2018 edited
    Black Panther Ludwig Göransson

    It's growing on me, but I'd still want to cut it down to about 40-50 minutes (admittedly the long running time didn't do it any favours on my first listen). There's some excellent stuff here. I wouldn't put it above Ant-Man or Giacchino's scores, but it's definitely up there.
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeFeb 21st 2018
    Ant-Man Christophe Beck

    Looking back at the Marvel Cinematic Universe's beginnings, it's a miracle that a score like this was written for one of their films. It's not a masterpiece, few things are, but it does have a personality. It's a score that created a sound for Ant-Man.

    I hope Marvel allow Silvestri creative freedom on the upcoming Disney's Marvel's Cinematic Universe The Avengers: Infinity War Part I and II.
  8. With a title like that, creative freedom is a given, no?
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      CommentAuthorAidabaida
    • CommentTimeFeb 21st 2018
    my sources tell me Silvestri is orchestrating Infinity War for banjo and kazoo. And I have the best sources, folks.
    Bach's music is heartless and robotic.
  9. Black Panther Ludwig Göransson

    Yes it’s far too long but I’m really enjoying this, full of attitude and emotion.

    I saw the excellent film (the score is great in context) with an African audience here in Mwanza, I don’t think I’ve ever felt a crowd more energised in a cinema before!
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeFeb 21st 2018
    Edmund Meinerts wrote
    With a title like that, creative freedom is a given, no?


    My lawyers are advising me to say yes.
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      CommentAuthorLSH
    • CommentTimeFeb 22nd 2018 edited
    NP: THE PERFECT STORM - James Horner

    Definitely worthy of an official expansion but the naughty version will do for now. So much to enjoy here.

    cool
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeFeb 22nd 2018
    Steven wrote
    It's not a masterpiece,


    Oh, it's bloody perfect!

    -Erik-
    host and producer of CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
  10. NP: Le Retour du Héros - Mathieu Lamboley

    This is a score of mixed messages! Set in Napoleonic France the music seems to have its roots in the Spaghetti Western! The score features (amongst other things) harpsichord (a nod to the French setting), twangy guitar, tolling tubular bells, wordless vocals and a great title theme that would sound good in a western. But it also features music in the style of the period.

    Lamboley's score is immensely entertaining and an early highlight for the year.
    The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeFeb 22nd 2018
    LSH wrote
    NP: THE PERFECT STORM - James Horner

    Definitely worthy of an official expansion but the naughty version will do for now. So much to enjoy here.

    cool


    I've never looked back at the official album ever since it was uploaded. It's a top 10, maybe top 5 score for me. love