JERRY GOLDSMITH

Well, I'll be damned....so they DID manage to squeeze two CD's out of this?

I have 0 (zero) PATTON CD's after recently having sold my RSNO recording (it's just not a score I care very much about in any variation, at least not as album....I haven't seen the film), and it's going to stay that way. But I'm impressed by how many times they've managed to package this, Lucas-style. Guess there's a neverending supply of Goldsmith nuts.

Yeah about Gathering, there are no clips to be found !

Looks like Intrada will release a 2 CD set of FIRST BLOOD on Monday.

These expansions are getting out of hand. What's next, an expansion of the complete LORD OF THE RINGS sets?

It pains my heart and soul that useful resources and money are wasted on these things.

I'd read that people didn't think that there was much missing from what had already been released. So it will be interesting to see what is also coming. Maybe an unknown unused score? (No foundation at all for that last statement.)

Thor if you don't want the complete score, make your own shorter playlist. At least that's possible. The other way around is a lot trickier I think.

And I agree with Erik, even though I'm not interested in First Blood complete (I don't even have the vanilla album), it's great for all the people having wanted such a release for many years. You can't please everyone, but if you can please some people, it's not wasted money or resources.

Why would anyone want to spend all the time necessary to do that? A commercial product is being released, it should be the best product possible. It's not like these things are done as a favour to consumers, we are expected to buy them, therefore they should be made in the best way possible. I suspect that has already been done for this particular score, but I'll wait and see what Intrada has up its sleeve. If all they do is add in the missing two minutes (or whatever) and rearrange the cues into film order then blatantly that's a total waste of time but from the amount of hype they've given it, I would hope and expect that not to be the case.

Let's just quote a MOD at JWFan on Thor -- for future reference:



I think the most ironic/funny part was, after Thor started his own thread, they locked it.

I just don't have the time to do it justice. As I've said many times, if they gave some kind of suggested tracklist or, better still, presented the best album possible and stuffed the rest on as bonus tracks, that would be perfect.

I don't have the time for that either, nor should it really be required of a consumer (album producers produce albums, not consumers!). But hey, I have a faint feeling we've been down this road before. And Erik, I actually DO have a FAQ ready for this particular question. Let me paste it in here:

FREQUENTLY-ASKED-QUESTION NO. 1:

"So why don't you just arrange your own album out of a C&C presentation?"

ANSWER:

1) I'm not a record producer and record producing is an artform. So I leave that to the actual artists and professionals (especially if it's the composer him/herself producing). I don't usually fix my own sink or build my own house either. I get qualified plumbers and carpenters for that.

2) It should not be required of the consumer to complete the product. You buy a finished product, including a finished presentation of the music. Otherwise, it would be a bit like buying a car, but getting it in pieces and asking you to put it together yourself!

It often amazes me that some people think anyone can put together an album that will automatically be just as good and thought-out as if Danny Elfman or John Williams or whoever had done it, the actual composers of the music. There's a lot more going into album production than picking out the tracks you like!

to make things official, here it is

FIRST BLOOD (2 CD) $19.99

Label: Intrada MAF 7111
Date: 1982
Tracks: 33
Time = 87:19

Home at last! 2-CD world premiere of complete Jerry Goldsmith soundtrack for megahit Ted Kotcheff action movie where Sylvester Stallone first introduces iconic Rambo character to moviegoers and legendary composer first unleases landmark action music to listeners. Hear FIRST BLOOD like never before, complete and from multi-track masters for the first time! Many years ago Intrada presented score as it's very first limited edition CD, drawn from original 1982 1/4" two-track stereo LP masters with one additional track courtesy Goldsmith and engineer Len Engel. Tapes were processed with less-than-satisfying noise reduction to compensate for problems inherent with incorrect Dolby-encoding of 1/4" masters. Subsequent Varese Sarabande label CD used same master for its version. Now, back at home on Intrada, FIRST BLOOD finally appears in complete fashion with best audio ever! Goldsmith prepared terrific album in 1982 but resequenced entire program, edited numerous important bars of music to allow assemblies with other cues. Thanks to discovery of actual pristine condition 1/2" three-track stereo session elements made in London, Intrada presents entire score in sequence, restores all edits, allows magnificent music to unfold in sequence originally written. But there's more! Goldsmith recorded three different endings so producers could determine which way to go for closing credits. Familiar Dan Hill vocal version (the final choice) was actually preceeded in sessions by also-familiar but not-used orchestral version (It's A Long Road Instrumental). But multi-track masters revealed rare "pop" orchestral arrangement by Arthur Morton, conducted by Goldsmith with full National Philharmonic playing famous theme replete with additional pop rhythm feel. Neat arrangement! (Hear this track as start to complete score on CD 1.) And there's still more! Entire original 1982 album with unique edits and assemblies by Goldsmith appears here on CD 2, completely remastered from multi-tracks. Still more extras include equally rare "demo" version of theme made by composer and lyricist Hal Shaper to audition song prior to recording with Hill plus stereo presentation of Carolco logo, composed by Goldsmith for international presentations of film and subsequent productions. And one last - and very rare - musical treat! After success of initial film, sequel went into production for 1985. But full year before, Goldsmith composed & conducted magnificent version of theme (with Bruce Botnick engineering no less) in spectacular new arrangement composed exclusively for special summer '84 trailer. Powerhouse cue appears for first time anywhere as finish to CD 2, presented from 1/2" three-track stereo masters made by Botnick. Finally, in honor of Intrada's 25th Anniversary, notes by Douglass Fake offer brief journey down memory lane with emphasis on Goldsmith and importance of this particular score to label's history. Great value: all of this is yours for the price of a single CD! Jerry Goldsmith conducts National Philharmonic Orchestra.

CD 1 – Complete Original Soundtrack
01. Theme From First Blood [Pop Orchestra Version] 4:07
02. Home Coming 2:21
03. My Town 0:59
04. Under Arrest 0:45
05. The Razor 2:37
06. A Head Start 1:03
07. Hanging On 2:02
08. Over The Cliff 1:26
09. A Stitch In Time 0:57
10. Mountain Hunt 4:52
11. No Truce 0:39
12. First Blood 4:45
13. The Tunnel 3:25
14. Escape Route 2:36
15. The Truck 1:00
16. No Power/Night Attack
17. Hide And Seek 0:57
18. It’s A Long Road (Instrumental) 3:22
19. It’s A Long Road (Theme From first Blood) Vocal: Dan Hill 3:19

CD 1 Total Time: 45:14

CD 2 – Original 1982 Soundtrack Album
01. It’s A Long Road (Theme From First Blood) Vocal: Dan Hill 3:19
02. Escape Route 2:36
03. First Blood 4:35
04. The Tunnel 4:00
05. Hanging On 3:26
06. Home Coming 2:20
07. Mountain Hunt 6:01
08. My Town 1:55
09. The Razor 3:05
10. Over The Cliff 2:05
11. It’s A Long Road (Instrumental) 2:51

Total Original Album Time: 37:00

The Extras
12. It’s A Long Road [Recording Session Piano/Vocal Demo] 3:18
13. Carolco Logo 0:19
14. Rambo [Special Summer 1984 Trailer] 1:15

Total Extras Time: 4:57

CD 2 Total Time: 42:05

I'm sure this will find a nice home with the Goldsmith and/or C&C crowds.
Much as I love this score, though, I'll stick to the excellent album presentation.

Moneys.

I see that this new Intrada release of First Blood is not limited.

I'm also the Goldsmith fan, but I'll let this one pass too

that's already 3 Goldsmith fans who say no