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  1. litefoot wrote
    There's a ton of unreleased stuff out there but I suspect they don't believe it would sell in sufficient quantities, or they're not interested.

    One example would be the huge swathe of animated Marvel cartoons from the 80s. They're owned by Disney now, so Intrada would theoretically have access, but they've not released any animated television at all.

    Ironically it's the kind of thing La La Land would go for but only Intrada have access to the Disney vaults.


    If the tapes with that music even survived.
    Did you see anything out there? No. Why? What happened? The ship just got herpes.
  2. When we last heard about the on-going "Volunteers" score saga from Intrada: the licensor didn't seem interested. An update from April 3 from Roger:

    Licensor totally not interested. Very frustrating! But we do have Horner on the horizon.
    The views and opinions of Ford A. Thaxton are his own and do not necessarily reflect the ones of ANYONE else.
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeApr 6th 2017
    litefoot wrote
    One example would be the huge swathe of animated Marvel cartoons from the 80s. They're owned by Disney now, so Intrada would theoretically have access, but they've not released any animated television at all.


    Didn't they release the DUCKTALES thingie recently?
    I am extremely serious.
    • CommentAuthorlitefoot
    • CommentTimeApr 6th 2017 edited
    Thor wrote
    litefoot wrote
    One example would be the huge swathe of animated Marvel cartoons from the 80s. They're owned by Disney now, so Intrada would theoretically have access, but they've not released any animated television at all.


    Didn't they release the DUCKTALES thingie recently?


    Treasure of the Lost Lamp was released in cinemas. Same goes for Transformers: The Movie. These two Intrada releases are the closest we've come to animated television releases from the label.

    I would assume that the masters for Disney's own shows - Ducktales, TaleSpin, Rescue Rangers, and Gummi Bears - all survive. Most 1980s Marvel productions are now owned by Disney and include Spider-Man, Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends, The Incredible Hulk, Dungeons and Dragons, Muppet Babies and Defenders of the Earth. So Intrada theoretically has access to all this.

    Some Marvel productions that Disney don't own include Fraggle Rock (Jim Henson Productions owns this one), Transformers, GI Joe, Jem, Visionaries and My Little Pony (all owned by Hasbro).

    Moving away from Disney, there's the Filmation stuff, which includes He-Man, She-Ra, Star Trek Animated and Bravestarr. Most of these shows were owned by Hallmark at one point, who allegedly destroyed a lot of material (The LLL release of Star Trek was only the stems for example) but He-Man somehow survived.

    There's a load of DiC stuff including Ulysses 31, Mysterious Cities of Gold, Inspector Gadget, Pole Position, Heathcliff, Rainbow Brite, Jayce and The Wheeled Warriors, M.A.S.K., Kissyfur, The Real Ghostbusters, Adventures of Teddy Ruxpin and ALF.

    Then there's Teenage Mutant Hero (Ninja) Turtles, owned by Fred Wolf Productions, The Raccoons, owned by Entertainment Group...

    The list is seemingly endless.

    I was thrilled that LLL released He-Man. And someone managed to get a complete release of Ulysses 31 out of DiC France. So, we've had some good stuff. We also know from MV Gerhard that Thundercats was impossible due to rights issues, and apparently Johnny Douglas said some years back that the Spider-Man music is lost. There's a Transformers CD on the horizon but it seems to be permanently bogged down by Hasbro issues.

    But the rest? We know nothing. For all we know, 90% is in the vaults of the above companies gathering dust. And there is so much of it!

    I'd love to know one way or another about all these titles, but, you know... they can't ALL be unlicensable, can they?

    It's a huge genre that is, for the most part, untouched. And that's why I get disappointed when I see all these reissues and small expansions on a regular basis.

    My fear is, that with the CD market shrinking, the labels no longer regard this stuff as worth going after, and it's SUCH a shame.
    • CommentAuthorBasilB
    • CommentTimeApr 6th 2017
    justin boggan wrote
    When we last heard about the on-going "Volunteers" score saga from Intrada: the licensor didn't seem interested. An update from April 3 from Roger:

    Licensor totally not interested. Very frustrating! But we do have Horner on the horizon.


    I stay positive that the time for Volunteers will come! In the meantime: bring on the other Horner release(s)!!smile
    • CommentAuthorlitefoot
    • CommentTimeApr 6th 2017
    In the meantime: bring on the other Horner release(s)!!smile


    I've been looking into what 80s Horner stuff is left (I prefer his earlier work). Here's a complete list of 80s Horner... hopefully some of this is coming!

    Humanoids from the Deep - released by BSX.
    The Hand, Deadly Blessing, Battle Beyond The Stars - Horner declined. Still not coming apparently.
    Wolfen - released by Intrada.
    The Pursuit of D.B. Cooper - a possibility. Never been ruled out.
    Star Trek II - released by FSM.
    48 Hrs - released by Intrada.
    Space Raiders - stock music from Battle Beyond The Stars.
    Something Wicked This Way Comes - released by Intrada a while ago, but now fetches silly prices and a reissue may be possible?

    Krull - released twice by La La Land Records.
    Brainstorm - Varese in perpetuity.
    Testament - released by FSM.
    The Dresser - score is only 10-15 mins... maybe tie it to something else?
    Gorky Park - released by Intrada and Kritzerland.
    Uncommon Valor - released by Intrada.
    Star Trek III - released by FSM.
    Heaven Help Us - unreleased. Horner wrote three scores apparently. A possibility.
    Cocoon - released by Intrada.
    Volunteers - licensor declined.

    The Journey of Natty Gann - released by Intrada a while ago, but a reissue might be possible? One of my favourite soundtrack albums ever.
    Commando - released by Varese CD Club and La La Land.
    Off Beat - another possibility.
    Aliens - released by Varese in 2001. Not much scope to be redone.
    Where The River Runs Black - Varese Encore release in 2015.
    The Name of the Rose - No release since initial album. Possible expansion?
    An American Tail - released by MCA at the time, and Intrada like doing MCA titles, so this is a distinct possibility!
    PK and the Kid - Unreleased. A possibility?
    Project X - released by Varese CD Club in 2001. No idea if they have this in perp.
    *batteries not included - another MCA title so this could be something they're working on.

    Willow - now owned by Disney so a real possibility for Intrada.
    Red Heat - 44 minute CD release in 1988 but nothing since. Only nine mins missing so would it be worthy of expansion?
    Vibes - had a Varese Encore release, and according to Ford Thaxton this is all that survives.
    The Land Before Time - I'd suggest this is the unexpanded 80s Horner title most people want, and it's MCA Records again, so a real chance of Intrada tackling it...
    Cocoon: The Return - Varese CD Club release last year.
    Field of Dreams - 50m album released at the time. Only 5-10 mins missing so is it worth an expansion?
    Honey, I Shrunk The Kids - released by Intrada.
    In Country - released by Intrada.
    Dad - 40 min MCA release at the time. Another possibility.
    Glory - 43 minute album released at the time. Yet another possibility.

    40 1980s titles in all:

    20 have had 'final word' releases.
    4 are unavailable
    1 uses stock music
    1 confirmed Varese in perp

    So I'd say that leaves 14 possibles, plus reissues if there's a demand.

    What do you think?
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeApr 6th 2017
    I actually did a complete listing of completely unreleased Horner on FSM (as you know, I have no interest in expansions and such):

    http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/p … ;archive=0
    I am extremely serious.
  3. Willow 2 discs remastered and expanded + alternates would be so immediately ordered.
    "considering I've seen an enormous debate here about The Amazing Spider-Man and the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it, I feel myself obliged to say: TASTE DIFFERS, DEAL WITH IT" - Thomas G.
    • CommentAuthorlitefoot
    • CommentTimeApr 6th 2017
    Thor wrote
    I actually did a complete listing of completely unreleased Horner on FSM (as you know, I have no interest in expansions and such):

    http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/p … ;archive=0


    Thanks Thor. I didn't include the shorts and his TV stuff in my list!

    I much prefer his early 80s stuff (the two Treks and Natty Gann) to what came later.

    Intrada seems to be the main source for Horner stuff. I'm absolutely convinced that Intrada are working on loads of his titles that initially came out on MCA Records. But there's something about MCA/UMG projects that take ages to sort out... MV said Beverly Hills Cop took six years! And back in 2013 Intrada gave a hint they were working on Apollo 13 and Out of Africa (Barry).... both MCA releases... that was four yearsa go! They must surely be imminent. So I'm expecting loads of MCA Horner over the next couple of years.
    • CommentAuthorlitefoot
    • CommentTimeApr 8th 2017
    MV has confirmed the next two releases after Katie Elder are a Wonder Woman 3-CD set and The X-Files mini-series 2-CD set. Second release of April and first release of May. They may swap around.
  4. Long time in production:

    Available from Laurel Records: http://www.laurelrecord.com ($25.99)

    "Laurel Records proudly announces the release of Music From THE RIFLEMAN® Television
    Series composed by Herschel Burke Gilbert. The wildly popular Series ran from 1958 through
    1963. Reruns continue to this day. Conceived, produced, and directed by the team of Jules
    Levy, Arthur Gardner, and Arnold Laven, the show gained a devoted following. Particularly
    popular was the music, which was composed by veteran Hollywood composer Gilbert who
    had earned 3 Academy nominations for his film scores. So popular was the music that Gilbert
    occasionally received more fan mail for his scoring than the show’s star, Chuck Connors. This
    2 CD set contains cues originally written for the series (including the original and revised end
    titles) remastered from the original audio tapes plus a bonus CD of extras, including selected
    cues from Gilbert’s film scores used in the series, as well as vocals and extra materials not used
    on-screen. A 24-page booklet explains the history of the scoring and has lyrics to The Rifleman
    Song, which has never been heard before this release. Series video is available from LGLProductions
    (www.TheRifleman.net). This long awaited CD set of the original music is a must
    have for any fan of THE RIFLEMAN®"

    Main CD
    1 Main Title (1:22)
    2 Mark's Theme (2:53)
    3 Mark's Fear+I'm Shot (1:38)
    4 Mark's Fun (1:01)
    5 The Rifleman (0:54)
    6 Dramatic Buildup (0:56)
    7 McCain's Chase (4:00)
    8 Stagecoach Trouble (1:20)
    9 Spurred Horses (1:26)
    10 McCain's Walk (1:06)
    11 Mark's Alright (1:23)
    12 Dirge (2:33)
    13 Timp & Horns (0:46)
    14 Mysterioso (2:04)
    15 Desert Walk (2:42)
    16 McCain & Son (1:20)
    17 Watch Out (1:24)
    18 The Bad Villain (2:05)
    19 Black Shadows (1:07)
    20 Lively & Rhythmic (2:10)
    21 Pensive (2:39)
    22 Evil Things A'Brewin (1:08)
    23 Lou Mallory (1:11)
    24 Emotional Buildup (1:33)
    25 First Act End (0:20)
    26 Love in a Laundry (4:38)
    27 Wilkins Clips Tracy (0:36)
    28 Jimmo Dies (2:43)
    29 Drunkard's Walk (1:20)
    30 Money Rejected (2:14)
    31 You Have a Baby (0:59)
    32 Tracy Please Come Home (1:50)
    33 End Title (Naked Hills) (0:27)
    34 New Rifleman End Credits (0:58)
    35 Four Star Fanfare (0:14)
    Total Time: (57:48)

    BONUS CD
    1 Rifleman Song (1:54)
    2 Rifleman Song-Vocal Only (2:06)
    3 Something Special Song (1:17)
    4 Ballad of Jake Pardee (3:04)
    5 Hey Pa (2:06)
    6 Brother Rats (1:12)
    7 Man Eats Newspaper (1:21)
    8 Shorty Plays (0:50)
    9 Seasons Change Montage (1:07)
    10 Greg's Plan (2:24)
    11 Poison Pills (0:45)
    12 The Prowler (1:21)
    13 Give Him The Needle (1:06)
    14 Killer in the News+Police Office (3:06)
    15 March to the Toilet+Follow That Man (2:32)
    16 Torn Suit/The Package (1:56)
    17 The Highwaywoman (1:59)
    18 Guilty or Not (1:53)
    19 I'm Leaving/Stalking A Killer (2:56)
    20 Vicenti Dies (4:32)
    21 Bank Hold-Up (2:25)
    22 Hide & Seek (3:54)
    23 Catch Him!/The Fight (1:33)
    24 Hidden Microphone (4:06)
    25 Assembling an Episode-Young Man's Fancy (2:44)
    26 Rifleman Suite for Band (6:58)
    Total Time: (61:44)
    The views and opinions of Ford A. Thaxton are his own and do not necessarily reflect the ones of ANYONE else.
  5. The new Quartet release of "The White Buffalo" (expanded Barry score and the rejected Shire score) is almost gone; posted today at FSM by the label head:

    Less than 200 units remaining
    The views and opinions of Ford A. Thaxton are his own and do not necessarily reflect the ones of ANYONE else.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2017
    This one came right under my radar...

    Scott of The Antarctic complete score

    Can't wait to hear this.
    thor 2? fuck thor! ~ Thor
  6. There are 75 or fewer copies of "The Dove" (John Barry) remaining at Intrada.

    And 100 or fewer of "Indecent Proposal" (John Barry).
    http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.9619/.f
    The views and opinions of Ford A. Thaxton are his own and do not necessarily reflect the ones of ANYONE else.