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MICHAEL GIACCHINO
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- CommentAuthoryonythemoony
- CommentTimeDec 20th 2011
I just watched the first Mission Impossible film, and Elfman indeed used some chorus in the score. So it's not unusual that Giacchino uses it in the fourth one. -
- CommentAuthorDreamTheater
- CommentTimeDec 20th 2011
Steven wrote
Indeed. As much as I love Zimmer, I can't say I'm too keen on composers emulating his style (not that I think Giacchino's ever likely too).
I don't mind if someone wants to emulate John Williams though!
It's interesting that Michael emulated John when he started out, not so much these days, sadly."considering I've seen an enormous debate here about The Amazing Spider-Man and the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it, I feel myself obliged to say: TASTE DIFFERS, DEAL WITH IT" - Thomas G. -
- CommentAuthoryonythemoony
- CommentTimeDec 20th 2011 edited
People shouldn't emulate nobody. They need to have a voice of it's own. In this years, people emulate Williams or Zimmer. Giacchino has his own voice. He has done scores where makes homage to people like Williams and Mancini, but his own music is recognizable. -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeDec 20th 2011
yonythemoony wrote
I just watched the first Mission Impossible film, and Elfman indeed used some chorus in the score. So it's not unusual that Giacchino uses it in the fourth one.
And MI2 has it as well. Mission Impossible 3? No choir. What nonsense!
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- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeDec 20th 2011
yonythemoony wrote
People shouldn't emulate nobody. They need to have a voice of it's own.
Actually, what's much more important is the ability to ADAPT and have the ability to write in MANY different styles in order to give the FILM it's own unique voice.
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- CommentAuthoryonythemoony
- CommentTimeDec 20th 2011
It's true. But people who writes in several styles should kept their own voice, instead of having the voice of somebody else. -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeDec 21st 2011
It's really not up to them.
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- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeDec 21st 2011
On one hand, you are right, Erik, but on the other hand, I do agree with Yonathan that while it's very important to give the film an unique voice, the composer should be able to retain his own.
Mission: Impossible Ghost Protocol is a great example of how a composer can combine giving a certain sound for the movie (the score plays quite like a Bond score to me) with retaining his own unmistakable voice.http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeDec 21st 2011 edited
Are we listening to the same score? My god the new m:i score is so underwhelming...and what's with the slow, soft porn jazzy renditions of the main theme? where's the kick ass nerve of the previous score?Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeDec 21st 2011
I quite like it, but I admit the album is way too long. 40 minutes is all that's needed. -
- CommentAuthorThor
- CommentTimeDec 21st 2011
Steven wrote
I quite like it, but I admit the album is way too long. 40 minutes is all that's needed.
Hey, that's MY tagline!I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeDec 21st 2011
All that's needed in this case, I hasten to add. -
- CommentAuthorThor
- CommentTimeDec 21st 2011 edited
Steven wrote
All that's needed in this case, I hasten to add.
Oh. You got me all excited there for a minute.I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeDec 23rd 2011
2 more Giacchino concerts next year in Lucerne:
Giacchino in concert - http://www.artproductions.ch/konzerte27.html
LOST - http://www.artproductions.ch/konzerte28.html
Think I need to go to these. -
- CommentAuthorThor
- CommentTimeDec 23rd 2011 edited
Anthony wrote
2 more Giacchino concerts next year in Lucerne:
Giacchino in concert - http://www.artproductions.ch/konzerte27.html
LOST - http://www.artproductions.ch/konzerte28.html
Think I need to go to these.
I wonder if he will ever go to Ghent? I mean, what's there to see in Lucerne?I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeDec 23rd 2011
I went skiing in between the Lord Of The Rings concerts.
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- CommentAuthorBasilB
- CommentTimeDec 23rd 2011
Thor wrote
Anthony wrote
2 more Giacchino concerts next year in Lucerne:
Giacchino in concert - http://www.artproductions.ch/konzerte27.html
LOST - http://www.artproductions.ch/konzerte28.html
Think I need to go to these.
I wonder if he will ever go to Ghent? I mean, what's there to see in Lucerne?
Wau, you really need to come to Lucerne yourself to see ALL the things to do and see here!! :-)
Can't wait for the Giacchino festival weekend!! :-)
Don't think twice, Anthony! C'mon over!
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- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeDec 23rd 2011
I love Switzerland and have been multiple times, shame it's so darned expensive though.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthoryonythemoony
- CommentTimeDec 23rd 2011
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- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeDec 27th 2011 edited
comments to be added as a review... -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeDec 28th 2011
Informative video about the sound and music of M:I4
http://soundworkscollection.com/ghostprotocol
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- CommentAuthorWilliam
- CommentTimeDec 29th 2011
Thanks for the link, Erik! -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeJan 2nd 2012
http://goo.gl/7RVkB
"There is a tendency to put a lot of reverberation on film scores, and it tends to feel like it's in a cathedral," says Giacchino. "It's massive, and you lose the identity of the different instruments that are going on in there. On a Dan Wallin score, you can hear every instrument that's playing."
Do you agree? -
- CommentAuthorScribe
- CommentTimeJan 2nd 2012
You can keep the identity of the individual instruments without making the whole thing sound dead, dry and sterile.I love you all. Never change. Well, unless you want to! -
- CommentAuthoryonythemoony
- CommentTimeJan 2nd 2012 edited
I agree. There's scores where the mix don't let the instruments to be clear enough. -
- CommentAuthorAntineutrino
- CommentTimeJan 2nd 2012
The Giacchino scores recorded by Dan Wallin sound terrible. Even a 120 piece orchestra sounds like it's playing in a bathroom. -
- CommentAuthorDreamTheater
- CommentTimeJan 3rd 2012
Yeah why does nobody notice this except us score fans?
If only all Giacchino's could sound like MOH : Frontline ..."considering I've seen an enormous debate here about The Amazing Spider-Man and the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it, I feel myself obliged to say: TASTE DIFFERS, DEAL WITH IT" - Thomas G. -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeJan 3rd 2012
I think Frontline is one of Steve Smith's weakest recordings for Giacchino. I'd say the best Smith/Giacchino recordings are Underground and SWON (<-- Just you Timmer)
The best Wallin/Giacchino recording is Ratatouille. And John Carter sounds like it's bit more spaced out than usual. I think the best Wallin recording out there is his recording of Joel McNeely's Iron Will.
But overall, I don't like Wallin's mixes. Everything is center heavy with the strings panned hard left and right! IMO, it sounds muddy and you don't really hear every instrument. I've said this before, you should have heard what Mercenaries sounded like before Wallin remixed it! But what do I know? If Michael loves what Wallin does then that's all that matters.
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- CommentAuthorDreamTheater
- CommentTimeJan 3rd 2012 edited
Underground and SWON (for Timmer ) sound mighty fine, but Frontline is like in a whole other league IMO. I'm not talking on a purely technnical level, because I have zero knowledge about that, but on the level of orchestral power. The percussion, the brass section and choir sound totally awesome...
The last two minutes of The Rowhouses blows me away every time. And I play that motherfucker loud, because it's that great!!!
"considering I've seen an enormous debate here about The Amazing Spider-Man and the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it, I feel myself obliged to say: TASTE DIFFERS, DEAL WITH IT" - Thomas G. -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeJan 3rd 2012 edited
I find the recording far too thin! There's a thump to the recording for sure but I feel that the highs made the recording far too ear splitting! It also seems like there is something lacking in the mid range.
Just compare the balanced recordings of MOH/SWON to Frontline... all three recorded by the same engineer in the same venue.
But different ears hear different things.
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