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JAMES NEWTON HOWARD
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- CommentTimeJun 29th 2008 edited
Tommy_Boy wrote
I always saw the eerie whispers of the orchestra as the villain of the movie, and the piano representing the startling uneasyness and unknowingness of the people
Clever interpretation!
That's what I love about this film...there are so many different ways of looking at it, so many things to "discover" about it. I was almost giddy with mental delight when I discovered the "theme" of fake/artificial things that aren't what they pretend to be (mood rings, the model home, Mrs Jones' life-size doll) that I see as a metaphor for one of the underlying themes of the film...that the sense of security we wrap around ourselves has little basis in reality, is not what it appears to be, and could be torn from us at any moment for reasons as familiar as terrorism or as absurd as...well, if you've seen the film, you know...I love you all. Never change. Well, unless you want to! -
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2008
The film is great and as time goes by - apart the fact that i want to re-watch it, i realize it's just a misunderstood little gem.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2008
Like Lady in the Water, too... -
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2008
Ralph Kruhm wrote
Like Lady in the Water, too...
Then I like Lady in the Water way more, I like The Happening beause it is still Shyamalan and not just an average director. His wonderful story telling and creation of build up is still astounding, but I guess the movie fails because it doesn't have an ending, or a feeling I was resolved with, perhaps the story itself isn't so fascinating.
Ah well, considering the cinema version was so quietly, I need to see this one again through my brother's home cinema, loud and without pauses, the way any movie is meant to bewaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh -
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2008 edited
Anyone have any opinions about his "Michael Clayton" score? I just saw the movie yesterday and found the score rather generic, at least on first listen. Surprising therefore to find out it was nommed for an Oscar.
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- CommentTimeJun 30th 2008
plindboe wrote
Anyone have any opinions about his "Michael Clayton" score? I just saw the movie yesterday and found the score rather generic, at least on first listen. Surprising therefore to find out it was nommed for an Oscar.
Peter
There have been lots of opinions about Michael Clayton! They mostly coincide with your own. Personally I think that's a little generous - I found it worse than generic, actually it's downright bad! -
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2008
Southall wrote
plindboe wrote
Anyone have any opinions about his "Michael Clayton" score? I just saw the movie yesterday and found the score rather generic, at least on first listen. Surprising therefore to find out it was nommed for an Oscar.
Peter
There have been lots of opinions about Michael Clayton! They mostly coincide with your own. Personally I think that's a little generous - I found it worse than generic, actually it's downright bad!
Worse thing ever produced by JNH. Horrible score for a boring film. -
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2008
I find it to be perfect background music for writing. -
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2008
Ralph Kruhm wrote
I find it to be perfect background music for writing.
Oh yeah, it's great for being non-intrusive. But then so is silence, and that's so much nicer to listen to than Michael Clayton. -
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2008
I absolutely disagree. The score creates a very nice atmosphere that crawls around and gives you a certain feeling of uneasiness. Helps me very much while I write dialogue about mysteries and stuff. -
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2008
Ralph Kruhm wrote
I absolutely disagree. The score creates a very nice atmosphere that crawls around and gives you a certain feeling of uneasiness. Helps me very much while I write dialogue about mysteries and stuff.
Wouldn't (if we stick to JNH scores) something like The Devil's Advocate or The Sixth Sense be good too? Certainly more interesting! -
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2008
No, because their flow is too jumpy and disrupting. Your choice of words (non-intrusive) was perfect, actually. Occasionally, I use a collection of quiet tracks from different JNH scores. -
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2008
plindboe wrote
Anyone have any opinions about his "Michael Clayton" score? I just saw the movie yesterday and found the score rather generic, at least on first listen. Surprising therefore to find out it was nommed for an Oscar.
Peter
Absolute generic crap.
http://christodoulides.blogspot.com/200 … ayton.htmlLove Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeJul 1st 2008
There are two MICHAEL CLAYTON cues that play very well in the film. One is the opening scene. The other comes as Michael Clayton leaves a message on Tom Wilkinson's phone, while the latter wanders the streets. On their own they're not pieces you could listen to, I imagine. But they have an undeniable chemistry with the images.
The problem with the rest of the score is that it doesn't work well enough to make me think that it couldn't have been done better. I think the electronic emphasis was appropriate - it suits the film's cold, reflective surfaces. But it's not hard to imagine the writing being a bit more adventurous, even as it maintained that electronic, minimalist exterior. And the moral redemption of Clayton is given almost no comment in the music - I feel this is a miscalculation.
While it has a few rhythmic problems (embedded in the screenplay), the film is very good. If you like SYRIANA and THE INSIDER, you'll probably find this one has much to offer. Performances strong all around.A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentTimeJul 1st 2008
Thanks for the opinions. Sounds like it's a score I don't need to explore further. I guess it simply got nominated because Hollywood has a boner for George Clooney.
I did kinda enjoy the movie though, even if it wasn't anything special. Gave it a 6 on imdb.
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- CommentTimeJul 1st 2008
plindboe wrote
I guess it simply got nominated because Hollywood has a boner for George Clooney.
Oh, they do! Never fully figured out why, but they do!Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentTimeJul 1st 2008 edited
Christodoulides wrote
plindboe wrote
I guess it simply got nominated because Hollywood has a boner for George Clooney.
Oh, they do! Never fully figured out why, but they do!
Cause he's a legend, that's why! (But mostly politics where the Academy Awards are concerned... but still a LEGEND!) -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeJul 1st 2008
Hey hey - who is BADMOUTHING the great GEORGE?!A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentTimeJul 1st 2008
D is sir! D is sir!
(I done told on you Demetris. ) -
- CommentTimeJul 9th 2008
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- CommentTimeJul 9th 2008
Missing what? There's nothing missing from the happeningLove Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentTimeJul 9th 2008
I like the score quite a bit, especially those two last pieces. The sudden raise of the orchestra, trumpets and the increasing tempo in the End Credits piece, at 3:50 belongs to my favourite film score moment of this year. It's really frightening!Kazoo -
- CommentTimeJul 9th 2008
I recently ordered The Happening after seeing the film. Can't wait to hear it on CD! -
- CommentTimeJul 9th 2008
I expect nothing but total acceptance and understanding of my review
Ps, if The Happening wasn't the last Shyamalan/Newton Howard score, I would have been different in my rating, but I stand firm in my belief that this is the weakest of all their collaborationswaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh -
- CommentTimeJul 9th 2008
Or one of the strongest. Question is who's the one being right and who's wrongLove Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentTimeJul 9th 2008
Christodoulides wrote
Or one of the strongest. Question is who's the one being right and who's wrong
I think the movie is not well, I like moments but I don't get a feeling out of it, neither of the score, not even at the ending, at least the guys of the podcast agree with me, they seem to be the only oneswaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh -
- CommentAuthorScorefanatic
- CommentTimeJul 18th 2008
New project for JNH:
Duplicity: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1135487/
Source: Interview at http://scorenotes.com/hans_james_2008.html -
- CommentTimeJul 18th 2008 edited
I expected him to be doing this, since it's Tony Gilroy (Michael Clayton) again. Hopefully it'll be a far more interesting score.
Good interview, I like JNH's comments on The Postman! -
- CommentTimeJul 23rd 2008
From conductor Nick Ingram's website:
On the film front, I was very happy to work again with top Hollywood composer, James Newton Howard on a new film, "Defiance", starring Daniel Craig.
The harrowing film tells the true story of the Warsaw Ghetto in World War Two, and how many of the inmates survived by building a secret community in the woods, undetected by the Nazis for almost four years. The wonderful score which I conducted was enhanced by the brilliant violin playing of Joshua Bell, who was truly inspirational. and drew gasps of admiration from the string players in the orchestra with his dazzling technique. -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJul 23rd 2008
LSH wrote
From conductor Nick Ingram's website:
On the film front, I was very happy to work again with top Hollywood composer, James Newton Howard on a new film, "Defiance", starring Daniel Craig.
The harrowing film tells the true story of the Warsaw Ghetto in World War Two, and how many of the inmates survived by building a secret community in the woods, undetected by the Nazis for almost four years. The wonderful score which I conducted was enhanced by the brilliant violin playing of Joshua Bell, who was truly inspirational. and drew gasps of admiration from the string players in the orchestra with his dazzling technique.
Sounds promising.
I'm a sucker for these kind of films but I have to say that there are so many other great and un-told stories from WWII, so much of it seems to centre on Jews and the holocaust etc etc, I want someting different.
p.s. The Warsaw Ghetto has already been handled brilliantly by Polanski in The Pianist.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt