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JAMES NEWTON HOWARD
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- CommentAuthorDemonStar
- CommentTimeJan 24th 2009
Sad but true
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- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeJan 24th 2009
There is not too much action on the FYC promo, so I guess much of the action in the film actually goes without music.http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentAuthorLSH
- CommentTimeJan 24th 2009
Still, that Tank cue from the promo would have been a worthy addition. The climax at the end is brilliant IMO. -
- CommentAuthorThomas Glorieux
- CommentTimeJan 26th 2009
PawelStroinski wrote
There is not too much action on the FYC promo, so I guess much of the action in the film actually goes without music.
so you're saying much of the action music isn't used in the film?
Don't know considering I haven't seen the movie, all I want is that the music from the film that is in the film is on CD as well, and sometimes CD labels throw away everything that is goodwaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeJan 26th 2009
No, I am saying that the FYC promo, the complete that was on the website, doesn't have much action music as well, maybe 4 or 5 shorter tracks.http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentAuthorThomas Glorieux
- CommentTimeJan 27th 2009
PawelStroinski wrote
No, I am saying that the FYC promo, the complete that was on the website, doesn't have much action music as well, maybe 4 or 5 shorter tracks.
but still, there's more action that would have made of it 60 / 40 instead of now 80 / 20 which I find a bit troublesomewaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeJan 27th 2009
Rather 70/30 I'm afraid
http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentAuthorThomas Glorieux
- CommentTimeJan 27th 2009
PawelStroinski wrote
Rather 70/30 I'm afraid
75 / 25, and I don't want to hear more of it
waaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh -
- CommentAuthorSylvos
- CommentTimeJan 29th 2009
A song compilation CD for Confessions of a Shopaholic is set to be released on February 17. There is only one score suite at the end of the album titled "Shoaholic Suite".
Right... well... Better than nothing...
Talking about that 28-track Defiance promo, was that really the complete score? I think the 15th track of the OST, "The Bielski Brothers", is missing there. -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeJan 29th 2009
It's just a suite, nothing much more.http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeFeb 7th 2009
If you're going to put a score like this on your film then frankly you may just as well have someone stand at the front of the cinema and hold up giant placards saying "Cry now!" or "Wince at how horrible it all is!" like they do for the audiences in tv studios at game shows, but that's not to say the album is a bad one.
http://www.movie-wave.net/titles/defiance.html
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- CommentAuthorMarselus
- CommentTimeFeb 7th 2009
"Howard lays it on thick with manipulative - but not ineffective - holocaust movie score".
Manipulative? That´s what Williams did with The Schindler List, manipulating the audience since minute one. Newton Howard´s approach is far more honest, I don´t think it´s manipulative at all.
On the other hand, I agree, it is not JNH´s best score of 2008, which would be I Am Legend IMO.Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you -
- CommentAuthorBregt
- CommentTimeFeb 7th 2009
I agree, most overrated score of 2008.Kazoo -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeFeb 7th 2009
Excellent review. I pretty much agree with it... except I enjoy it a lot more than you do I think. One of my favourites from last year.
If you're going to put a score like this on your film then frankly you may just as well have someone stand at the front of the cinema and hold up giant placards saying "Cry now!" or "Wince at how horrible it all is!" like they do for the audiences in tv studios at game shows.
True, but I don't think it's an inherently bad thing to play sad music when there's a sad scene. Sometimes, I like being told when to cry, when to feel sorry for a character... and sometimes I like figuring it out for myself. In the case of Defiance, I really like the film and its score. Cue Card Emotions and all. -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeFeb 7th 2009
How can you like the score and agree with James' review?Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeFeb 7th 2009 edited
Steven wrote
Excellent review. I pretty much agree with it... except I enjoy it a lot more than you do I think. One of my favourites from last year.
If you're going to put a score like this on your film then frankly you may just as well have someone stand at the front of the cinema and hold up giant placards saying "Cry now!" or "Wince at how horrible it all is!" like they do for the audiences in tv studios at game shows.
True, but I don't think it's an inherently bad thing to play sad music when there's a sad scene. Sometimes, I like being told when to cry, when to feel sorry for a character... and sometimes I like figuring it out for myself. In the case of Defiance, I really like the film and its score. Cue Card Emotions and all.
No, it's not inherently bad, I agree. It's not the only approach though, that's all. Sometimes the filmmakers have enough faith in their film (and the composer has enough dramatic instinct) that they allow stark, austere music for this kind of thing. And many (perhaps the vast majority) of the best film scores tell you things that you can't already see from the visuals alone, they don't just accentuate what you already know. -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeFeb 7th 2009
Christodoulides wrote
How can you like the score and agree with James' review?
Well, I like it, and I agree with my review, so I don't see the problem! -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeFeb 7th 2009
Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeFeb 7th 2009
Christodoulides wrote
How can you like the score and agree with James' review?
Very easily:
How could someone write a review of Ed Zwick's Defiance - about a group of brothers who go to great lengths and take great risks in rescuing Jews from the Nazis during World War 2 - and not mention Schindler's List?
I agree.
This is a film music website, and so of course where I'm going with this is that it would surely be impossible for most listeners to take in James Newton Howard's score for this film and not do their own comparisons with John Williams's fine score for Steven Spielberg's film. I suppose at the very surface level, one might claim similarities - in the sense that the most striking feature of both scores is the prominent use of violin, with Joshua Bell on hand here to provide his services. Underneath that, the scores could barely be more different - whereas Williams took on a reverential tone throughout, Howard's is a much more conventional film score, accentuating emotion in the most direct way, and a way I suspect Williams was quite deliberate in avoiding - and not without good reason.
I agree.
Early on, the score makes it quite clear that the listener (and film viewer) must be morbid without fail, as dark music which is clearly designed to harrow dominates.
I agree.
all of a sudden, action music turns up, and for all the world it sounds like it should be accompanying slow-mo shots of Bruce Willis climbing out of a burning building, face scratched to shreds, but with a baby wrapped safely in his arms; or perhaps just a helicopter blowing up after a barrage of shots fired by angry, nasty foreigners at the good old US President (played of course by Josh Hartnett). That it is, in isolation, satisfying music is all well and good; but it is so acutely modern in the way it's constructed, so close to what appears in Jerry Bruckheimer action films, it is very hard to take and a real misfire from Howard, who destroys the atmosphere he has so carefully created elsewhere.
I agree. (But I enjoy it anyway.)
Schmaltzy they may be, but who could listen to "Exodus" or "Camp Montage" and not be moved? The strings surge to accompany Bell's solos, and Howard certainly lays it on with a trowel, but it's attractive music and perhaps that's the main thing.
I agree.
there are certainly some beautiful melodies here.
I agree. -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeFeb 8th 2009
And you're telling me i take things too seriouslyLove Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeFeb 8th 2009
I take everything seriously. Deadly seriously. -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeFeb 11th 2009
DUPLICITY
Original Motion Picture Soundtrack
Music Composed by James Newton Howard
Includes the song “Being Bad”
by the electronic duo Bitter:Sweet
Oscar® winner Julia Roberts and Clive Owen reunite for Duplicity, from writer/director Tony Gilroy (seven-time Oscar®-nominated Michael Clayton).
In the film, they star as spies-turned-corporate operatives in the midst of a clandestine love affair. When they find themselves embroiled in a high-stakes espionage game, they discover the toughest part of the job is deciding how much to trust the one you love.
CIA officer Claire Stenwick (Roberts) and MI6 agent Ray Koval (Owen) have left the world of government intelligence to cash in on the highly profitable cold war raging between two rival multinational corporations. Their mission? Secure the formula for a product that will bring a fortune to the company that patents it first.
For their employers — industry titan Howard Tully (Tom Wilkinson) and buccaneer CEO Dick Garsik (Paul Giamatti) — nothing is out of bounds. But as the stakes rise, the mystery deepens and the tactics get dirtier, the trickiest secret for Claire and Ray is their growing attraction. And as they each try to stay one double-cross ahead, two career loners find their schemes endangered by the only thing they can't cheat their way out of: love.
Fresh off a blockbuster year that included the score for The Dark Knight and an Oscar® nomination for Defiance, James Newton Howard adds this striking new thriller score to his impressive tally.
Universal Pictures opens DUPLICITY nationwide on March 20.
Varèse Sarabande Catalog #: 302 066 955 2
Release Date: 03/17/09 -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeFeb 11th 2009
Nice! Looking forward to that!Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeFeb 11th 2009
Christodoulides wrote
Nice! Looking forward to that!
But mostly I expect you're looking forward to seeing Julia Roberts
On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeFeb 11th 2009
There's not the slightest chance i will actually watch that retarded movie!Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeFeb 11th 2009
Christodoulides wrote
There's not the slightest chance i will actually watch that retarded movie!
LOL 
On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeFeb 11th 2009
Can this one possibly be as good as Michael Clayton? -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeFeb 11th 2009
PossiblyLove Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeFeb 12th 2009
"Oscar® winner Julia Roberts and Clive Owen reunite for "Duplicity," from writer/director Tony Gilroy (seven-time Oscar®-nominated "Michael Clayton"). In the film, they star as spies-turned-corporate operatives in the midst of a clandestine love affair. When they find themselves embroiled in a high-stakes espionage game, they discover the toughest part of the job is deciding how much to trust the one you love. CIA officer Claire Stenwick (Roberts) and MI6 agent Ray Koval (Owen) have left the world of government intelligence to cash in on the highly profitable cold war raging between two rival multinational corporations. Their mission? Secure the formula for a product that will bring a fortune to the company that patents it first. For their employers—industry titan Howard Tully (Tom Wilkinson) and buccaneer CEO Dick Garsik (Paul Giamatti)— nothing is out of bounds. But as the stakes rise, the mystery deepens and the tactics get dirtier, the trickiest secret for Claire and Ray is their growing attraction. And as they each try to stay one double-cross ahead, two career loners find their schemes endangered by the only thing they can't cheat their way out of: love."
Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorMarselus
- CommentTimeFeb 12th 2009
Christodoulides wrote
"Oscar® winner Julia Roberts and Clive Owen reunite for "Duplicity," from writer/director Tony Gilroy (seven-time Oscar®-nominated "Michael Clayton"). In the film, they star as spies-turned-corporate operatives in the midst of a clandestine love affair. When they find themselves embroiled in a high-stakes espionage game, they discover the toughest part of the job is deciding how much to trust the one you love. CIA officer Claire Stenwick (Roberts) and MI6 agent Ray Koval (Owen) have left the world of government intelligence to cash in on the highly profitable cold war raging between two rival multinational corporations. Their mission? Secure the formula for a product that will bring a fortune to the company that patents it first. For their employers—industry titan Howard Tully (Tom Wilkinson) and buccaneer CEO Dick Garsik (Paul Giamatti)— nothing is out of bounds. But as the stakes rise, the mystery deepens and the tactics get dirtier, the trickiest secret for Claire and Ray is their growing attraction. And as they each try to stay one double-cross ahead, two career loners find their schemes endangered by the only thing they can't cheat their way out of: love."
Love is in the air D..., love is in the air
Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you