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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJul 2nd 2009 edited
    Stereo matrix users algorithms that extract and inter-use phase differences and phase summations / subtractions from within and between the 2 channel stereo in order to create pseudo-rear surround channels, imitations of how a sound would have sounded if it actually came from behind and above. If you compare the matrixed rear surround channels with the original material (the front stereo L-R channels from which they derived) and even better, if you compare them with ACTUAL SURROUND recorded on location simultaneously, you can hear that pseudo-surround via matrix is about clones, rather than actual sound sources. There are various methods to do this, and it's usually a combination of spectral / phasic spectrogram procedures.




    And of course you have to also have the TOUCH OF GOD to be able to do this.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeJul 2nd 2009
    So, erm, in layman's terms (dizzy), you do have to use "outside help"?
    But how is that worse than having to use spectro-analysers to ascertain that you aren't hearing things in the "best possible" quality?

    Surely if it sounds fine, it is fine (as that is what the experience is all about (not about proving points on some meter).

    Or did I misunderstand you?
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJul 2nd 2009
    You did. I am not CLAIMING that this is what the Ubeda guys did, but rather talking in more general terms.

    If you record something in plain stereo and want to pass it around as a "5.1" surround project, instead of proper surround recording which costs big money, time and effort, then it's cheating.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeJul 2nd 2009
    Yes, I understand your point.
    But I'm not really bothered by whether they did or not, to be honest.

    I am interested in how it sounds.
    Hence my question: will you be able to tell by simply listening they "electronically enhanced" the existing tracks, or will you need (more or less) sophisticated equipment to tell the difference?

    And in case of the latter: does it then matter when it actually sounds better?
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJul 2nd 2009
    1) Depends on how good they matrixed it, and how expensive their plugins / hardware for this job is as well as how experienced is the one who did it.

    2) Well, if it COSTS the same as properly recorded 5.1 dvd (or bluray) then it DOES matter i am afraid wink
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeJul 2nd 2009
    Christodoulides wrote
    1) Depends on how good they matrixed it, and how expensive their plugins / hardware for this job is as well as how experienced is the one who did it.

    Ah, I thought you were already dismissing the recording as a matter of fact, and was wondering on what basis, but from that response I gather you are still keeping an open mind (or ear, rather wink ).

    2) Well, if it COSTS the same as properly recorded 5.1 dvd (or bluray) then it DOES matter i am afraid wink

    Agreed. I'm sure they'll be clever enough to put a little disclaimer like "digitally remastered" or somesuch generic phrase to avoid anyone complaining. But that would be a pretty unpleasant trick.
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJul 2nd 2009 edited
    1) no i didn't do such a thing; being a sound engineer, what i can tell you is that you always get something according to what you paid for; when the sound engineer is experienced and generally not a cheater, you'll get the best available for what you paid. For what you pay, it's my 2nd point to which i am glad you agree too smile
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
  8. I find this discussion about sound very interesting, but after listening to the performance I can say with certainty that sound is not the problem here.

    Geez, I think this was the worst version of Anvil of Crom that I´ve ever heard, and I believe I´ve heard a lot of them.

    That said, how about Tadlow music takes one hell of an orchestra and a bad-ass conductor and rerecords the whole thing. That one would sell like lesbian porn featuring Jolie, Fox, and Theron.

    (Please excuse the latter outburst of testosterone. But it would. At least around places like this one.)
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJul 2nd 2009
    Undoubtedly Ralph....undoubtedly!!! biggrin wink
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJul 3rd 2009
    Yeah, amateurish as i remember it then, shot from some hand-held small cameras in the balconies? And the performances weren't great either, IF It's the one they're selling.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
  11. The last thing the world needs is another poorly-recorded version of CONAN THE BARBARIAN. The original will suffice in that circumstance. wink
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
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      CommentAuthordgoldwas
    • CommentTimeJul 30th 2009 edited
    http://news.bsospirit.com/2009/07/dont- … basil.html

    A TRIBUTE TO BASIL POLEDOURIS.
    LIVE IN CONCERT AT UBEDA FILM MUSIC FESTIVAL (DVDSING001)

    An unique document made from the heart and to the heart of film music lovers all over the world, including the only concert Basil Poledouris conducted in his life, a few months before his passing.

    Contents:
    CONAN THE SYMPHONY (Almost 50 spectacular minutes of the Conan the Barbarian score, with Basil Poledouris conducting the Andalucía Symphony Orchestra & Chorus. Remixed and remastered in Dolby Digital 5.1)

    REMEMBERING BASIL (A 40 minutes documentary directed by Dan Goldwasser where friends and personalities like Paul Verhoeven, Randal Kleiser, Zoe Poledouris, Richard Kraft, Eric Colvin or Jon Burlingame remember Basil, his music and his legacy).

    THE TALE OF CONAN (including the conversation by Poledouris in Ubeda International Film Music Festival where he speaks about his relation with John Millius and how they came to create the score of ?Conan the Barbarian?. Including images of his rehearsals conducting the orchestra before the concert).

    BASIL AT ÚBEDA (A moving document on the days Basil spent at Úbeda surrounded by friends and fans).

    AN EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WITH BASIL POLEDOURIS.

    Almost 120 minutes of a unique document in DVD REGION 0 (worldwide), PAL Video, in English language with Spanish subtitles.

    Limited edition of 1.200 copies.

    16 EUROS / 22,50 USD

    Orders: singularsoundtrack@gmail.com

    (fyi, I didn't 'direct' the documentary; i just conducted all the interviews!)
    I consider a project a success when Thor says he won't buy it
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2009
    Thanks Dan.

    A MUST have in my book, I'm ordering.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorBregje
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2009
    Interesting!

    Is that tribute performance of the Hymn to Red October they did one year later in there too?
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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2009
    Bregje wrote
    Interesting!

    Is that tribute performance of the Hymn to Red October they did one year later in there too?

    No, that tribute was performed in the 2008 concert. The DVD features the Conan concert held in 2006 wink
    Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2009
    The dvd i've seen snippets from then?
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorBregje
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2009
    Marselus wrote
    Bregje wrote
    Is that tribute performance of the Hymn to Red October they did one year later in there too?

    No, that tribute was performed in the 2008 concert. The DVD features the Conan concert held in 2006 wink

    But since this DVD was compiled just recently that tribute in Ubeda could have been a nice addition, right?
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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2009
    Now that you mention it, yes, they could have added the Hymn to Red October cue (it is in the DVD of the 2008 concert they gave us this year though).
    Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you
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      CommentAuthorBhelPuri
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2009
    Drat! I was hoping not to spend anymore but at 1200 copies and rare interviews I'll have to pick this one up (even if the Conan recording isn't top quality [supposedly]).
    • CommentAuthorTintin
    • CommentTimeJul 31st 2009
    This is a great souvenir of Basil and his monumental score live for us who didn't have a chance to attend it. Ordered!
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      CommentAuthorBregt
    • CommentTimeAug 1st 2009 edited
    Does anyone else have problems ordering this dvd through this e-mail address? It returns my e-mail, failing to deliver it.
    Kazoo
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      CommentAuthorBregt
    • CommentTimeAug 3rd 2009
    No one? Where can this be ordered then?
    Kazoo
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      CommentAuthorBhelPuri
    • CommentTimeAug 3rd 2009
    Bregt wrote
    Does anyone else have problems ordering this dvd through this e-mail address? It returns my e-mail, failing to deliver it.

    You mean singularsoundtrack@gmail.com ?

    Bregt wrote
    No one? Where can this be ordered then?

    SAE
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      CommentAuthorBregt
    • CommentTimeAug 3rd 2009
    BhelPuri wrote
    Bregt wrote
    Does anyone else have problems ordering this dvd through this e-mail address? It returns my e-mail, failing to deliver it.

    You mean singularsoundtrack@gmail.com ?

    Yeah. The one that was posted by Dan.

    Bregt wrote
    No one? Where can this be ordered then?

    SAE

    Aaah. Though, it's cheaper when ordering through that e-mail. How did you order Bhel?
    Kazoo
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      CommentAuthorBhelPuri
    • CommentTimeAug 3rd 2009
    Bregt wrote
    Aaah. Though, it's cheaper when ordering through that e-mail. How did you order Bhel?


    SAE is only $0.5 more. I haven't ordered yet (maybe in the next couple of days). Any idea what the shipping cost is if ordered thru Singular Soundtracks?
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      CommentAuthorBregt
    • CommentTimeAug 3rd 2009
    Ah, ok. Thanks. I'll order it via them. smile
    Kazoo
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      CommentAuthorEric
    • CommentTimeAug 13th 2009
    Anybody here received the DVD yet ?
    I've just ordered my copy ...
    Can't wait to see it !
    "Simplicity is the key to brilliance"
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeAug 13th 2009
    I decided not to purchase it.
    It's probably more worthwhile to those who actually attended the concert.
    For me it's just a reminder of a lost opportunity. sad
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorBhelPuri
    • CommentTimeAug 13th 2009 edited
    Martijn wrote
    I decided not to purchase it.
    It's probably more worthwhile to those who actually attended the concert.
    For me it's just a reminder of a lost opportunity. sad


    Lost opportunity as in not attending the concert? A lot of us missed out on it. sad
    But when they included the interviews and extra features it was hard not to order it. I'd rather pick this one now than regret missing out later (as with the Goldsmith dvd by MFTM).
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      CommentAuthorBregt
    • CommentTimeNov 8th 2009
    It's three years ago that Basil passed away. Main Title of the Week is a suite of some of his themes, from YouTube:
    http://www.youtube.com/v/Me8jrklLK7A
    Kazoo

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