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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeMay 6th 2011
    Thanks for the info, franz. I doubt Malick is using the classical pieces as SOURCE music, but I think he's definitely using them in regular non-diegetic fashion, and probably over some pivotal emotional moments.
    I am extremely serious.
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      CommentAuthorBregt
    • CommentTimeMay 6th 2011 edited
    Thanks for the opinion (or facts? wink ) Michael. I'm looking forward to it now! A new take on De Battre... Delicious!
    Kazoo
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      CommentAuthorCristian
    • CommentTimeMay 6th 2011
    Timmer wrote
    Christodoulides wrote
    BRIAN TYLER - fast five

    Unoriginal but also the most adrenaline-fueled, fun score i've heard this year. Awesome when played loud.


    Ahhhh! A wonderful Desplat score, one of his best.

    Cristian wrote
    NP: Merlin - Trevor Jones

    What a great main theme, Trevor Jones really knows how to write a great theme.


    This is not a bad score for Desplat, possibly even better than the one mentioned in the post above.


    I think you are in the wrong thread biggrin
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeMay 6th 2011
    I know shame Still a damn fine score! smile
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
  1. Thor wrote
    Thanks for the info, franz. I doubt Malick is using the classical pieces as SOURCE music, but I think he's definitely using them in regular non-diegetic fashion, and probably over some pivotal emotional moments.


    Sorry Thor, it was 1am and it was an honest mistake. I meant to type 'sourceD' music (as in music not written for the film but obtained from other sources).
    I won't do it again.
    Honest.
    Incidentally, if I want to refer to diegetic music, I usually call it diegetic. wink
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeMay 11th 2011
  2. Southall wrote
    Surprising review of The Tree of Life by Jon Broxton:

    http://moviemusicuk.us/2011/05/10/the-t … e-desplat/

    I think that I would have to agree with Jon's assessment.

    (Wherever he is, whatever he's doing he's come over all calm for some inexplicable reason.)
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  3. It seems like it's not a score for everybody's taste. Maybe in the film can have their true valour.

    Speaking of Desplat, it's been confirmed that DH part 2's has been finished. The last Harry Potter score sad
  4. Southall wrote
    Surprising review of The Tree of Life by Jon Broxton:

    http://moviemusicuk.us/2011/05/10/the-t … e-desplat/


    Indeed, the great Desplat champion finally runs out of puff. wink I think he makes the composition sound a bit simplistic at times, but that's how this music can come across.
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeMay 11th 2011
    I am sure this one will polarise opinion. I couldn't dare review it yet - there is so much in it (ironic, given the minimalistic nature of the composition). I like it, a lot.
  5. Yeah... actually reading the review, Jon made me wonder whether this music was at times meant to be played simultaneously with the classical music... interesting thought.

    It is a good review actually, didn't mean to suggest it wasn't. I think disappointment with the music influences the description a bit. I'm surprised links to previous Desplat scores don't come up as much -- De Battre Mon Couer S'est Arrete of course, but even American scores like Syriana.

    Listening to 'Good and Evil' at the moment. It would be interesting music for a serpent trying to get you to enjoy an apple. Sounds like there's a Viole d'amore there (a la Girl with a Pearl), and electric cello.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeMay 12th 2011
    Making a general statement here: isn't it a bit off to review film music outside the..., well, film all the time? Especially obviously complex and difficult scores like this one here... a very tricky case. I wouldn't dare review it before i watched the film. It's one of those scores that have absolutely nothing to do with the cd album that carries them in this form. Anyway, off to bed!
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeMay 12th 2011
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeMay 12th 2011 edited
    Old but, well always spot-on, imo, as what we have is programme music here essentially. IT's the nature of the whole thing. Discussions with composers (i am sure many have way more experienced on this one than me) always reveal interesting juxtapositions between the way they and the directors think about their music and films and - us.

    I am not passing judgments here, just thinking out loud; it's something that's circling in my head a lot especially since i started my master's and teaching at a local college on film music and sound, it gave me some different experiences and perspectives on film music in general whilst presenting it to people, analyzing it and taking the feedback back in, i am sure Michael can perhaps understand this point better? I am not sure yet, it's still cooking but it's one of the primal reasons i stopped reading such reviews and of course i don't write as much as i used to 'cause i found that i did that too especially in the past, but also now, by the time i watch the movie and am ready to present a "from within the movie and the album" review, everybody has listened to it to death by then.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
  6. I'm a bit of the opposing view on this one. I think this score should probably be judged less in the film than on its own. I find a score like Harry Potter or Fantastic Mr Fox, with their many 30 second to 2 minute cues, often need the film to make sense of them. But this one is long form composition - each of the pieces written to stand alone as music and be edited into the film as need be. If it doesn't work on its own, I imagine a Philip Glass symphony or a John Adams concerto wouldn't either.

    Incidentally, I enjoy this one a bit more with a shuffled cue order:
    'Emergence of Life'
    'Clouds'
    'Good & Evil'
    'Awakening'
    'Childhood'
    'Fatherhood'
    'Motherhood'
    'Light and Darkness'
    'River'
    'Circles'
    'City of Glass'
    'Skies'

    I've removed 'Temptation', which takes out a bit of the droning material.
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeMay 12th 2011
    I've always thought there are basically two different things available for review - the score as written and used in the film, and the music on the album. It's a great shame that there is nobody reviewing the former. It's more difficult to do, I guess that's the problem. Anyone with a CD player and an internet connection can review the latter. (I should know.) You need a deeper understanding and a LOT more time in order to the former.
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeMay 12th 2011
    In general... I do think... if you need the film in order to appreciate the music, then buy the DVD, not the soundtrack album. A lot of soundtrack albums feature music which is essentially uninteresting on its own terms. To say they shouldn't be released would be a bold statement, one I am not ready to make without further thought.

    If the music isn't interesting to me away from the film, then I don't think viewing the film will help me enjoy it. It might help me to understand it, but that's a different thing.
  7. franz_conrad wrote
    I'm a bit of the opposing view on this one. I think this score should probably be judged less in the film than on its own. I find a score like Harry Potter or Fantastic Mr Fox, with their many 30 second to 2 minute cues, often need the film to make sense of them. But this one is long form composition - each of the pieces written to stand alone as music and be edited into the film as need be. If it doesn't work on its own, I imagine a Philip Glass symphony or a John Adams concerto wouldn't either.

    Incidentally, I enjoy this one a bit more with a shuffled cue order:
    'Emergence of Life'
    'Clouds'
    'Good & Evil'
    'Awakening'
    'Childhood'
    'Fatherhood'
    'Motherhood'
    'Light and Darkness'
    'River'
    'Circles'
    'City of Glass'
    'Skies'

    I've removed 'Temptation', which takes out a bit of the droning material.


    Well. I've read that the film was edited according to the music.
  8. Yes, so the music has to make sense structurally on its own. I agree that a lot of music needs the film to be enjoyed, but if anything, this album should be less subject to that rather than more.
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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMay 12th 2011
    FalkirkBairn wrote
    Southall wrote
    Surprising review of The Tree of Life by Jon Broxton:

    http://moviemusicuk.us/2011/05/10/the-t … e-desplat/

    I think that I would have to agree with Jon's assessment.

    (Wherever he is, whatever he's doing he's come over all calm for some inexplicable reason.)


    Desplat chilled him out.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  9. Wow. Broxton is normally Desplat's cheerleader. I guess I'll have to hear it myself...
  10. Move over Alex, you're going to be sharing the stage in TREE OF LIFE with...

    “Funeral Canticle”
    Written by John Tavener and Mother Thekla
    Performed by George Mosley, Paul Goodwin
    and the Academy of Ancient Music
    Courtesy of Harmonia Mundi USA

    “Cosmic Beam Take 5”
    Written and Performed by Francesco Lupica
    Courtesy of Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation

    “Symphony No. 1”
    Written by Gustav Mahler
    Performed by the Polish National Radio Symphony Orchestra conducted by Michael Halász
    Courtesy of Naxos
    By arrangement with Source/Q

    “Morning Prayers”
    Written by Giya Kancheli
    Courtesy of ECM Records

    “Faunophonia Balkanica”
    Written, Performed and Produced by Arsenije Jovanovic
    Courtesy of Arsenije Jovanovic

    “Wind Pipes”
    Written and Performed by Michael Baird
    Courtesy of Sharp Wood Records

    “Approaching”
    Written, Performed and Produced by Arsenije Jovanovic
    Courtesy of Arsenije Jovanovic

    “Ta Há 1”
    Written and Performed by Klaus Wiese
    Courtesy of Aquamarin Verlag GmbH, Germany

    “Snapshot from the Island”
    Written and Performed by Tibor Szemzo
    Courtesy of Leo Records

    “Lacrimosa 2”
    Composed by Zbigniew Preisner
    Performed by Elzbieta Towarnicka (soprano) and the Sinfonia Varsovia
    and the Varsov Chamber Choir, conducted by Jacek Kaspszyk
    Courtesy of New Music B.V.

    “Ascending and Descending”
    Written by David Hykes
    Performed by David Hykes and The Harmonic Choir
    Courtesy of Harmonic Presence Foundation

    “Resurrection in Hades”
    Written by John Tavener and Mother Thekla
    Performed by Joseph Jennings and the Chanticleer Choir and Chorus
    Courtesy of Warner Classics
    By arrangement with Warner Music Group Film & TV Licensing

    “Berlioz: 7. Domine Jesu Christe [Requiem Op. 5 (Grande Messe des Morts)]”
    Performed by Wandsworth School Boys Choir, London Symphony Chorus, London Symphony Orchestra, Sir Colin Davis
    Courtesy of Decca Music Group Ltd.
    Under license from Universal Music Enterprises

    “Siciliana Da Antiche Danze Ed Arie Suite III”
    Written by Ottorino Respighi
    Performed by the National Symphony Orchestra of Ireland Conducted by Rico Saccani
    Courtesy of Naxos
    By Arrangement with Source/Q

    “Hymn to Dionysus”
    Composed by Gustav Holst
    Performed by The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra and Chorus
    Courtesy of Unicorn-Kanchana Records

    “My Country –Vltava (The Moldau)”
    Composed by Bedrich Smetana
    Performed by Vaclav Smetacek and
    The Czech Philharmonic Orchestra
    Courtesy of SUPRAPHON

    “Brahms: 2. Andante moderato [Symphony No. 4 in E minor, Op. 98]”
    Performed by Berliner Philharmoniker, Herbert von Karajan
    Courtesy of Deutsche Grammophon GmbH, Hamburg
    Under license from Universal Music Enterprises

    “Symphony No. 3”
    Written by Henryk Górecki
    Performed by the Polish National Radio Symphony Orchestra conducted by Antoni Wit
    Courtesy of Naxos
    By Arrangement with Source/Q

    “Pièces de clavecin, Book II 6e Ordre N5:Les Barricades Mistérieuses
    Written by Francois Couperin (1668-1733)
    Performed by Angela Hewitt
    Courtesy of Hyperion Records Ltd.

    “J.S Bach: Fugue [Toccata and Fugue in D Minor, BWV 565]”
    Performed by Helmut Walcha
    Courtesy of Deutsche Grammophon, GmbH, Hamburg
    Under license from Universal Music Enterprises

    “The Well-Tempered Clavier”
    Written by Johann Sebastian Bach
    Performed by Jenő Jandó
    Courtesy of Naxos
    By arrangement with Source/Q

    “Pièces de clavecin, Book II 6e Ordre N5:
    Les Barricades Mistérieuses
    Written by Francois Couperin
    Performed by Hanan Townshend
    Courtesy of Hanan Townshend

    “Hymn 87: Welcome Happy Morning”
    Performed by Hanan Townshend
    Courtesy of Hanan Townshend

    "Mussorgsky: Pictures at an Exhibition - Promenade - The Tuileries - Bydio (Piano Version)"
    Performed by Vladimir Ashkenazy
    Courtesy of Decca Music Group Ltd.
    Under license from Universal Music Enterprises

    “Schumann: 1. Allegro affettuoso [Piano Concerto in A Minor, Op. 54]”
    Performed by Martha Argerich, Gewandhausorchester, Leipzig, Riccardo Chailly
    Courtesy of Decca Music Group Ltd.
    Under license from Univesral Music Enterprises

    “Klangschalen 2”
    Written and Performed by Klaus Wiese
    Courtesy of Akasha, Germany

    “Eternal Pulse”
    Written and Performed by Hanan Townshend
    Courtesy of Hanan Townshend

    “After the Rain: Antiphon”
    Written by Barry Guy
    Performed by Richard Hickox and the City of London Sinfonia
    Courtesy of NMC Recordings

    “Harold in Italy”
    Written by Hector Berlioz
    Performed by the San Diego Symphony Orchestra conducted by Yoav Talmi
    Courtesy of Naxos
    By Arrangement with Source/Q 42

    “Piano Sonata No.16 in C Major K. 545”
    Composed by Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
    Performed by Jim Lynch

    “Siciliana Da Antiche Danze Ed Arie Suite III”
    Written by Ottorino Respighi
    Performed by Hanan Townshend
    Courtesy of Hanan Towhnshend

    “Lacrimosa 2”
    Written by Zbigniew Preisner
    Performed by Hanan Townshend
    Courtesy of Hanan Townshend

    “Berlioz: 10. Agnus Dei [Requiem, Op. 5 (Grande Messe des Morts)]”
    Performed by Wandsworth School Boys Choir, London Symphony Chorus, London Symphony Orchestra, Sir Colin Davis
    Courtesy of Decca Music Group Ltd.
    Under license from Universal Music Enterprises

    “Sound Testament of Mount Athos”
    Written, Performed and Produced by Arsenije Jovanovic
    Courtesy of Arsenije Jovanovic

    “Ma Maison”
    Written, Performed and Produced by Arsenije Jovanovic
    Courtesy of Arsenije Jovanovic
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMay 13th 2011
    That's a lot of "share".
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  11. I must admit, I've always wanted to see what Malick would do with Mahler 1 in a film.
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMay 13th 2011
    ...erm? yeah! dizzy
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  12. Having like thirty-five songs in a two hours film it's not sharing.
    • CommentAuthorTintin
    • CommentTimeMay 13th 2011
    franz_conrad wrote
    I must admit, I've always wanted to see what Malick would do with Mahler 1 in a film.


    Hi! i read Jonathan's review Of Desplat's score and I think i will wait to hear the score in the film. Malher should be just fine in his film probably. I've been waiting for that film forever! smile
  13. Timmer wrote
    ...erm? yeah! dizzy


    Suffice to say a good night out with me in Sydney is a bit more sedate than it would be with some others. wink
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMay 13th 2011
    Right now that sounds bloody fine to me Michael, ol' pal! cool
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeMay 13th 2011
    It must be the longest film in history if it accommodates all that... unless he's "done a New World" on Desplat. (Which seems unlikely, really.)