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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeFeb 11th 2013
    Southall wrote
    Excellent! Any idea what it's like?


    Did you try the sound clips?

    Hints of both Dracula and Ninth Gate, I liked it and have ordered it.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeMar 20th 2013 edited
    Timmer wrote
    Martijn wrote
    Timmer wrote
    Timmer wrote
    NP : NAPOLEON ET L'EUROPE - Wojciech Kilar
    My first listen, loving it so far.


    NP : NAPOLEON ET L'EUROPE - Wojciech Kilar
    My 3rd play.


    Just got it in a few minutes ago.
    Looking forward to sampling it!


    Check out the liner notes Martijn, unusual to say the least.


    Oh my! shocked

    From the liner notes by director Pierre Lary (October 2012):
    <...>
    Wojciech Kilar, the chosen composer, is a star who worked for a long time for Andrzej Wajda. He lives in Katowice and under no circumstances would he meet us anywhere else but at his home.
    With Michel, my friend and assistant, we took the night train.
    Dawn broke on an industrial landscape so dark and so grimy that it almost seemed like a caricature. You could have believed it was chosen by anvironmental organization to illustrate the dangers of pollution. After ten minutes of walking in the streets of this god-forsaken town, I wiped my face and my nose and, when I looked at my handkerchief, it was totally blackened by the endlessly falling grime. Horrible...!

    The musician lived in a suburban style area on the edge of an industrial district.
    He received us, quite coldly, in his living room, which was strangely empty. We had brought him a cassette on which were recorded a number of pieces already composed for the title credits and for other, already finished, films. Using this as a starting point I would have liked to discuss things, but the musician claimed not to have anything on which to play these recordings.

    In the end, grudgingly, he went to look for an antiquated tape player, which scratched out the music, an almost unlistenable noise. In any event, there was no question of working with anything on it. I entrusted to Michel the job of smoothing relations over between us.

    He succeeded so well in doing this that he took it upon himself to deliver to me, in Paris, a quality music score by a quite unapproachable musician.


    In the best tradition of collaborating with Bernard Herrmann, it seems!
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
  1. HA! That's great! Every composer should tell a producer/director when they arrive at his house with a tape or CD-R that "I don't have anything to play it on..." so the early worm of temp tracking doesn't set in.
    The views and opinions of Ford A. Thaxton are his own and do not necessarily reflect the ones of ANYONE else.
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      CommentAuthorBregt
    • CommentTimeDec 29th 2013 edited
    Kilar passed away. RIP.
    http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wir … 1-21360006

    My favourite of his remains Pan Tadeusz and Portrait of a Lady. Very moving scores.
    Kazoo
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      CommentAuthorBobdH
    • CommentTimeDec 29th 2013 edited
    It might not be the most reliable of sources, but it was just added to his Wikipedia page.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wojciech_Kilar

    81 is not a bad age. Rest in peace.

    Great, great composer of which I've heard only a few works, but love those completely. Discovering more of him has been on my to-do for quite some time.

    NP: Love Eternal ('Dracula')
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeDec 29th 2013
  2. sad Sad news. On the other hand he let a long life filled with creativity. I was never an expert of his music but I admired his work. RIP
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
  3. So soon after my post on PORTRAIT OF A LADY. Wonderful voice in film music. RIP.
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeDec 29th 2013
    Sad news indeed. Kilar was seated just a few rows away from me during last year's Krakow film music festival. I know that Jon Broxton even got to meet him.
    I am extremely serious.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeDec 29th 2013
    Aw no. I've made it more than crystal clear how much I've loved Kilar's music over the years. This has really saddened me today.

    Bummer! sad
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  4. Sad to hear that, but 81 is indeed a nice age. RIP sad
    waaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeDec 29th 2013
    It was good to hear him get an obituary on BBC Radio 2 just now.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorJoep
    • CommentTimeDec 29th 2013
    I never really had to deal with one of my favourite composers dying, so this is a first time.

    I couldn´t have imagined a world without the Bolerish-like Exodus, the choir of König der letzten Tage/Angelus etc (all choir works really), the gorgeous theme of Zycie za zycie, the oboe solo from From A Far Country, the romantic power of Pan Tadeusz, the soprano voice of Sumo Ji on The Ninth Gate, the lush strings and soft piano on Smuga Cienia...
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeDec 29th 2013
    Oh my.
    That news really pulled a pall over an otherwise rather nice day.

    This is exceedingly sad news. He was my introduction to Polish composers, and will always be very dear to me for that reason...and the fact he really knew how to create a great, thematic and coherent soundtrack.
    I'll miss his work a lot.
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorStavroula
    • CommentTimeDec 29th 2013
    What? shocked Oh no!!! cry
    Goodnight Mr Kilar. I'll miss you.
    Whatever you gaze rests on,do not use your vision, but the eyes of your soul...She knows better...
  5. As stupid as it probably seems, I'd be interested to see a kilar playlist from everyone who knows enough of his work to have one. 7 tracks or 40 mins -- whichever binds first. I want to know what music of his was most loved.
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeDec 29th 2013
    yeah

    I know nothing of this composer, except the first track from Dracula. shame
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      CommentAuthorArtworks
    • CommentTimeDec 29th 2013
    Sad news sad

    I only really know two of his scores, and those are Dracula and Portrait of a Lady, both really great scores. Especially the opening sequence of Dracula has to be one of the most powerful and dark cues I have ever heard! I will definitely have to listen to some of his other works the following days...

    R.I.P., Mr. Kilar.
    • CommentAuthorJoep
    • CommentTimeDec 30th 2013 edited
    I can honestly say I know every (bit) of score released and some I heard within the context of the film. There´s still a huge gap that needs flling. Selecting 7 cues is a real torture. I hope you don´t mind I just chose based what was available on Youtube. It saves some frustration...

    Kochajmy się (Pan Tadeusz) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-SOxeKSHBI
    Gloria (König der letzten Tage) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q7khidSleo
    Walc (Ziemia Obiecana) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaokgWSWD2Q
    Smuga Cienia (Smuga Cienia) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxdoYEzQ_6g
    temat (Salto) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWrPR_aZ6-M
    Marsz Kawalerii (Kronika wypadków miłosnych) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neBtW0xyEPY
    Vocalise (The Ninth Gate) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JasRaO6l4TQ


    Luckily, Kilar´s classical music is well presented in the form of releases. I think I heard everything but his Piano Concert no. 2.

    7 classical works
    Krzesany http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDcxDNHFslw
    Requiem Father Kolbe (based on the Zycie za Zycie score) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87_PJHH8xE4
    Bogurodzica http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvVZVEN0sVM
    Exodus http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MQbInyX3vm8
    Kościelec 1909 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1iuvGqAAaU
    Orawa http://www.youtube.com/results?search_q … a&sm=3
    Choralvorspiel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu9HeRIWQQY

    From his film works I don´t like Fantôme avec chauffeu and Zemsta that much. From his classical works I can´t think of something I didn´t hugely enjoy.
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeDec 30th 2013 edited
    Steven wrote
    yeah

    I know nothing of this composer, except the first track from Dracula. shame


    Listen to my CONCERT MUSIC BY FILM COMPOSERS program. During Part 2 I play his entire Exodus concert work! Prepare to be blown away.

    http://www.cinematicsound.net/concert-m … composers/

    Or just listen to it on YouTube since everything is now on YouTube. rolleyes

    -Erik-
    host and producer of CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeDec 30th 2013 edited
    Kilar Playlist. Easy

    1. König der letzten Tage: Gloria
    2. König der letzten Tage: Canzona
    3. Exodus (Concert Work)
    4. Bram Stoker's Dracula: Vampire Hunters
    5. Vocalise: Theme from the Ninth Gate
    6. Orawa (Concert Work)
    7. Portrait of the Lady: End Credits

    -Erik-
    host and producer of CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
    • CommentAuthorJoep
    • CommentTimeDec 30th 2013
    Requiem Father Kolbe: Orawa
    They´re two concert works.
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeDec 30th 2013 edited
    Whoops! You're right. shame Copied the track title from my iTunes library. It's labelled Requim Father Kibe: Orawa. I should change that. Not my tag.

    -Erik-
    host and producer of CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
  6. Erik Woods wrote
    Or just listen to it on YouTube since everything is now on YouTube. rolleyes

    Sometimes that isn't a bad thing...
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeDec 30th 2013
    Erik Woods wrote
    Kilar Playlist. Easy

    1. König der letzten Tage: Gloria
    2. König der letzten Tage: Canzona
    3. Exodus (Concert Work)
    4. Bram Stoker's Dracula: Vampire Hunters
    5. Vocalise: Theme from the Ninth Gate
    6. Orawa (Concert Work)
    7. Portrait of the Lady: End Credits

    -Erik-


    Thanks, I'll check this out!
  7. Working on mine, it's not so easy, because his thematic output is just so brilliant. I will, however, include some of his Polish classics.
    http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website
  8. Some good lists there.

    My own: (leaving off the brilliant 'Phantasms of Love' from PORTRAIT)
    1. Piano Concerto - Andante Con Moto
    2. Love Remembered, BRAM STOKER'S DRACULA
    3. Swiatynia Dumania, PAN TADEUSZ
    4. The Confession, DEATH AND THE MAIDEN
    5. Vadim Dies, WE OWN THE NIGHT
    6. Love Remains, PORTRAIT OF A LADY
    7. The Kiss, PORTRAIT OF A LADY
    A butterfly thinks therefore I am
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeDec 30th 2013 edited
    Pan Tadeusz - INWOKACJA

    I wanted to give my own playlist but all of my Kilar CD's are still in storage so I can't reference them. ( there's no way I'll remember Polish titles )
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  9. I heard a funny anecdote about Pan Tadeusz:

    The literary source of the film is regarded as the Polish national epic and follows a conflict between two noble families in Poland. It's the seminal work of Polish literature, read at least twice in school and even on university. The cultural impact it's made can't be overrated, it is still common to learn the beginning Invocation by heart at schools, so you can imagine the relevance and influence, it's important to understand it in context of this anecdote.

    So when Andrzej Wajda decided to film the story, one of the artistic decisions being to retain the verse in dialogue, the obvious choice for him was hiring Kilar, who he's had an on-off working relationship with (including the universally heralded Promised Land which many critics here regard as the best Polish film in history) since the 1970s.

    Kilar agreed to score the film (who would refuse THIS?! Such relevant story, an acclaimed director, even if they weren't friends before, it's a no-brainer) and they had a conversation about it and it finished for a while, because Wajda was still in pre-production. A couple of weeks later Wajda gets a package in the mail.

    The package is a tape with a note: "This piece I wrote, so you know how to tell the story". The piece on the tape was the orchestral recording of the now-legendary Polonaise, which became an instant classic and the fact that it's danced on the traditional 100 Day Ball in high schools (a kind of Prom equivalent here) speaks loads about it's cultural importance here.

    Can't think of a nicer way to tell a director: "Don't fuck it up". biggrin
    http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeDec 30th 2013
    Here's my favourite story. smile
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn