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JOHN POWELL
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- CommentTimeAug 14th 2008
Panthera wrote
I really hope he and Hans Zimmer team up again if that Kung Fu Panda sequel is made. The first score is one of the better scores of 2008.
"The first score" makes it sound like the second has already been made! -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeAug 14th 2008
Steven wrote
"The first score" makes it sound like the second has already been made!
Not really.. -
- CommentTimeAug 14th 2008
Anthony wrote
Steven wrote
"The first score" makes it sound like the second has already been made!
Not really..
Agree. When it comes to POWELL and 2008, one word comes to my mind: mediocrity. It's Powell we are talking about, he's able for SO much more.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentTimeAug 14th 2008
Christodoulides wrote
Anthony wrote
Steven wrote
"The first score" makes it sound like the second has already been made!
Not really..
Agree. When it comes to POWELL and 2008, one word comes to my mind: mediocrity. It's Powell we are talking about, he's able for SO much more.
Hang on, what? That makes no sense! Where in mine or Anthony's posts were we talking about the level of quality in Powell's 2008 scores?
I was just saying that the way Panthera worded it sounded like the second score had already been made, that's all. -
- CommentTimeAug 14th 2008 edited
Christodoulides wrote
Agree. When it comes to POWELL and 2008, one word comes to my mind: mediocrity. It's Powell we are talking about, he's able for SO much more.
Surely you jest! It's true that his score didn't have anything "groundbreaking", but being "prolific" (which is the word that comes to my mind) as he has been, there wasn't anything mediocre about the scores that he had produced. -
- CommentTimeAug 14th 2008
lp wrote
Christodoulides wrote
Agree. When it comes to POWELL and 2008, one word comes to my mind: mediocrity. It's Powell we are talking about, he's able for SO much more.
Surely you jest! It's true that his score didn't have anything "groundbreaking", but being "prolific" (which is the word that comes to my mind) as he has been, there wasn't anything mediocre about the scores that he had produced.
Agreed, mostly. Jumper was that way a bit, but I've enjoyed the others, particularly Hancock. -
- CommentTimeAug 14th 2008
Paycheck
Bourne: Supremacy
United 93
I Am Sam
Happy Feet
and Chicken Run when it comes to fun animation
Compare and you'll have your answer if i am serious or not.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeAug 14th 2008
Christodoulides wrote
Paycheck
Bourne: Supremacy
United 93
I Am Sam
Happy Feet
and Chicken Run when it comes to fun animation
Compare and you'll have your answer if i am serious or not.
Yes, but I wouldn't put I Am Sam in that list. -
- CommentTimeAug 14th 2008
Christodoulides wrote
Agree. When it comes to POWELL and 2008, one word comes to my mind: mediocrity. It's Powell we are talking about, he's able for SO much more.
Indeed. None of his output this year has done much for me (save for Kung Fu Panda with Zimmer). The last few tracks of Hancock are quite good, but other than that, it's been disappointing. -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeAug 14th 2008
David wrote
Christodoulides wrote
Agree. When it comes to POWELL and 2008, one word comes to my mind: mediocrity. It's Powell we are talking about, he's able for SO much more.
Indeed. None of his output this year has done much for me (save for Kung Fu Panda with Zimmer). The last few tracks of Hancock are quite good, but other than that, it's been disappointing.
I wouldn't say disappointing, but nothing where I've thought "wow!". Horton has been the strongest from him this year, then Panda, Stop Loss, Hancock and Jumper. -
- CommentTimeAug 14th 2008
Horton has its moments like all of his animation work, but it's too all over the place for me to really enjoy it. -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeAug 14th 2008
Seriously, here is my list:
The Bourne Supremacy
Paycheck
Chicken Run
Horton Hears A Who!
United 93
Agent Cody Banks
Mr. & Mrs. Smith
Happy Feet
The Italian Job
Evolution
X-Men: The Last Stand
Kung Fu Panda
P.S., I Love You
Robots
Antz
Ice Age: The Meltdown
Endurance
I Am Sam
Stop Loss
Hancock
The Bourne Ultimatum
The Road To El Dorado
Drumline
Shrek
The Adventures Of Pluto Nash
The Bourne Identity
Be Cool
Two Weeks Notice
Alfie
Rat Race
Face/Off
Gigli
Forces Of Nature
Just Visiting
Jumper
D-Tox
With Friends Like These
Chill Factor
Not including Stealing Sinatra or Mr. 3000 as I am no way near familiar enough with them! -
- CommentAuthormsi2
- CommentTimeAug 15th 2008
Well i dont know i have enjoyed some of his works this year (or parts of them such as Hancock, Kung-Fu Panda, Horton). Not his best but roughly entertaining.
Jumper is quite bad and Stop-Loss isnt very interesting outside of the context of the movie (except for the last track which is stunning). I have yet to hear P.S. I Love You which is technically a 2007 score even though the CD release has been this year.
On a more global view though, i tend to agree that 2008 has been an awful year for movie score so far (i mean, the third mummy score is absolutely shameful ), by far the worst of this decade. -
- CommentTimeAug 15th 2008
msi2 wrote
Well i dont know i have enjoyed some of his works this year (or parts of them such as Hancock, Kung-Fu Panda, Horton). Not his best but roughly entertaining.
Jumper is quite bad and Stop-Loss isnt very interesting outside of the context of the movie (except for the last track which is stunning). I have yet to hear P.S. I Love You which is technically a 2007 score even though the CD release has been this year.
On a more global view though, i tend to agree that 2008 has been an awful year for movie score so far (i mean, the third mummy score is absolutely shameful ), by far the worst of this decade.
Worst year of the decade? Can't agree with that. There have been some stunning scores released this year, just a matter of finding them.
Funny how during the year it tends to be labeled the 'worst', but a few years or even next year down the road, people discover more scores that were released in that year and their minds change. I really don't think it's been that bad. Not a great year, but a good one at least. -
- CommentTimeAug 15th 2008 edited
Indeed. To me crap like IRON MAN was a much painful listening experience than Mummy 3. Not even comparable.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeAug 15th 2008
This year has been better than last, but I think the disappointments this year have been really big disappointments (Indy 4 etc.) -
- CommentTimeAug 15th 2008 edited
Speaking of myself, I loved the scores of Kung Fu Panda, Narnia: Prince Caspian, Wall-E, Journey To The Center Of The Earth and Forbidden Kingdom, and The Dark Knight, Mummy 3 and Hancock were not bad either. So IMO it's been a pretty good scores year, if not a great one. Let's see what else it has in store, we're only halfway through after all! -
- CommentTimeAug 15th 2008
Steven wrote
msi2 wrote
Well i dont know i have enjoyed some of his works this year (or parts of them such as Hancock, Kung-Fu Panda, Horton). Not his best but roughly entertaining.
Jumper is quite bad and Stop-Loss isnt very interesting outside of the context of the movie (except for the last track which is stunning). I have yet to hear P.S. I Love You which is technically a 2007 score even though the CD release has been this year.
On a more global view though, i tend to agree that 2008 has been an awful year for movie score so far (i mean, the third mummy score is absolutely shameful ), by far the worst of this decade.
Worst year of the decade? Can't agree with that. There have been some stunning scores released this year, just a matter of finding them.
Funny how during the year it tends to be labeled the 'worst', but a few years or even next year down the road, people discover more scores that were released in that year and their minds change. I really don't think it's been that bad. Not a great year, but a good one at least.
Agreed. As opposed to 5 to 10 years ago where you would look to big releases and blockbusters to have great scores, that's no longer the case. Browsing the foreign (non-American) markets, video game scores, television scores, and labels like MovieScore Media will provide you with many excellent releases. -
- CommentTimeAug 15th 2008
Christodoulides wrote
Paycheck
Bourne: Supremacy
United 93
I Am Sam
Happy Feet
and Chicken Run when it comes to fun animation
Compare and you'll have your answer if i am serious or not.
Oooh, I'm comparing and my point still stands. His output this year isn't mediocre in term of quality especially given the range of styles they're in. Sure, Hancock and Jumper wasn't great on album, but the score was almost pitch perfect for the films they were produced for. -
- CommentTimeAug 15th 2008
The scores i mentioned were perfect in all aspects, not just in the movie; by far.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeAug 15th 2008
Christodoulides wrote
The scores i mentioned were perfect in all aspects, not just in the movie; by far.
Indeed, especially Paycheck. -
- CommentTimeAug 15th 2008 edited
Christodoulides wrote
The scores i mentioned were perfect in all aspects, not just in the movie; by far.
So just because something isn't perfect, they're mediocre? Puhlease! -
- CommentTimeAug 15th 2008 edited
lp wrote
Christodoulides wrote
The scores i mentioned were perfect in all aspects, not just in the movie; by far.
So just because something isn't perfect, they're mediocre? Puhlease!
He's Christian, logic isn't one of his fortés.
I just know I'm gonna wake up next to a horses head after that remark... -
- CommentTimeAug 15th 2008
No, Hancock is full of boring underscore and saves some good stuff for the end, Kung Fu Panda is constantly shifting unorganized soup of different styles without coherency (see HAPPY FEET or Chicken Run for a violent contrast) and Horton is a mickey-mousing fest. Happy now? It's Powell we are talking about here, not just any other composer; he can do so much more.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentTimeAug 15th 2008 edited
Violent contrast?? That's, um, an interesting choice of words! -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeAug 15th 2008
Christodoulides wrote
Hancock is full of boring underscore
It's not underscore...it's just not loud... -
- CommentAuthorPanthera
- CommentTimeAug 15th 2008
Well, I really like the scores to Kung Fu Panda and Horton Hears a Who. I think those were his best for the year, and not mediocre at all. I tend to prefer his music for animated scores, and what do you know, both of those were for animated films. -
- CommentTimeAug 15th 2008
Christodoulides wrote
No, Hancock is full of boring underscore and saves some good stuff for the end, Kung Fu Panda is constantly shifting unorganized soup of different styles without coherency (see HAPPY FEET or Chicken Run for a violent contrast) and Horton is a mickey-mousing fest. Happy now? It's Powell we are talking about here, not just any other composer; he can do so much more.
But you're judging based on album listening experience. You're not being consistent at all. Giving me your "perfect" example of on-album and in-movie scores and bashing others based on listening experiences. As scores, they are far from mediocrity, especially Kung Fu Panda and Horton.
We expect great things from Powell, but just because his scores is not perfect, doesn't mean that it's "mediocre". -
- CommentTimeAug 15th 2008
They aren't far from that. If they wouldn't be by Powell you wouldn't give a damn about them, so many similar scores are being written everyday by lesser-known composers and nobody cares while suddenly these are being presented as comparable to his best works? Come on.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentTimeAug 15th 2008
Christodoulides wrote
They aren't far from that. If they wouldn't be by Powell you wouldn't give a damn about them, so many similar scores are being written everyday by lesser-known composers and nobody cares while suddenly these are being presented as comparable to his best works? Come on.
But I'm not comparing them to "hist best works". I'm defending them as musical scores that, were more than functional and serviceable (like Hancock) as well as tuneful and still comparable examples of the skills of the composer (Panda & Horton). And the notion that because they don't completely work as pure listening experience, doesn't signify that they are mediocre scores, irregardless of whose name is attached.
So tell me about the similar scores being written everyday by lesser known composers...