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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeFeb 8th 2016
    The score isn't great IMO. The film is dreadful.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeFeb 8th 2016
    Timmer wrote
    The score isn't great IMO.


    Joking aside (though I was quite serious), no love for the end credits suite? uhm
  3. I'm solidly in the two for two camp. punk

    But I'm not to be trusted either... Also a citizen of that place over yonder... Weirdtardedville is it? dizzy

    Been living in the wonderful Bizarro District for 40 years now ! smile
    "considering I've seen an enormous debate here about The Amazing Spider-Man and the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it, I feel myself obliged to say: TASTE DIFFERS, DEAL WITH IT" - Thomas G.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeFeb 8th 2016
    Steven wrote
    Timmer wrote
    The score isn't great IMO.


    Joking aside (though I was quite serious), no love for the end credits suite? uhm


    Some bits take my fancy but I don't like the theme, I know it's a fan favourite and all. Horses for courses etc.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  5. Can't remember a lick of the score. The film is garbage. It's an easy candidate for a list of films I never need to ever see again and wish I hadn't wasted my time in the first place.
    The views and opinions of Ford A. Thaxton are his own and do not necessarily reflect the ones of ANYONE else.
  6. :Jean-Luc Picard facepalm:
    "considering I've seen an enormous debate here about The Amazing Spider-Man and the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it, I feel myself obliged to say: TASTE DIFFERS, DEAL WITH IT" - Thomas G.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeFeb 8th 2016 edited
    The 'why it's rubbish' conversations have long ago worn out so what are the elements that make it a great film for those of you that love it?

    I really liked the ominous opening of the film and...erm, that's it!
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  8. Do I assume correctly that we still discuss Independence Day?
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeFeb 8th 2016 edited
    I like the film a lot. It's a fun popcorn movie. There a lot in the film, special effects wise, that I'd never seen before in my life. And not knowing if we'd ever get another Star Wars film, this one filled the void. It's still ten billion times better than the prequels. And of course there is David Arnold classic score. 1996's best and one of the best of all time, IMO.

    Oh, and as cheeseball as the President's speech is, it's still gives me goosebumps to this day... lots of credit to David Arnold for that!

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeFeb 8th 2016
    Timmer wrote
    The 'why it's rubbish' conversations have long ago worn out so what are the elements that make it a great film for those of you that love it?

    I really liked the ominous opening of the film and...erm, that's it!


    Quite so.

    Horrid, horrid film that starts off very War-Of-The_World-ishly well, and then pretty immediately goes down the drain the minute Smith rears his head and does his Smith thing.
    The action scenes are great.
    I just wish all the actors had been replaced by...um...more action scenes.

    Never been a big fan of the score either. Not that I think it's bad, but...it just doesn't do much for me. sad Sorry.
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeFeb 8th 2016
    Erik Woods wrote
    Oh, and as cheeseball as the President's speech is, it's still gives me goosebumps to this day... lots of credit to David Arnold for that!


    shocked Seriously? shocked
    I still cannot decide whether to hide behind the sofa in secondhand embarrasment or to lose myself in wild fits of hysterical laughter (though admittedly my level of alcohol intake usually makes the choice for me).
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeFeb 8th 2016 edited
    Erik Woods wrote
    I like the film a lot. It's a fun popcorn movie. There a lot in the film, special effects wise, that I'd never seen before in my life. And not knowing if we'd ever get another Star Wars film, this one filled the void. It's still ten billion times better than the prequels. And of course there is David Arnold classic score. 1996's best and one of the best of all time, IMO.


    Yeah, there's that. And then on another level, I just love how Emmerich always goes overboard in his staging of whatever story he chooses -- give it to a German to out-patriot the Americans! It's just a total lovefest of excess and pomposity in every aspect. I'm also a HUGE fan of his other disaster epics, btw!

    By the way, it's SOOOO 1996 to diss INDEPENDENCE DAY. In the 20 years since then, it's not only become a cult classic, but also a reference point in science fiction; rightfully celebrated as such!

    LONG LIVE INDEPENDENCE DAY!
    I am extremely serious.
  13. It's not Jean Luc Godard. It's nonsense but it's fun nonsense. The SW prequels of course are ten billion times better. Arnold's score is stellar.

    Volker
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
  14. Captain Future wrote
    The SW prequels of course are ten billion times better.

    Despite being absolutely zero fun whatsoever. Erik's right, that's absolutely what Independence Day has that the prequels lack.

    By most objective parameters (except the visuals and the score) it's a lousy, silly film, but I find it very difficult to think badly of something that is so very enthusiastic in its silliness. biggrin
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeFeb 8th 2016
    Martijn wrote
    Erik Woods wrote
    Oh, and as cheeseball as the President's speech is, it's still gives me goosebumps to this day... lots of credit to David Arnold for that!


    shocked Seriously? shocked
    I still cannot decide whether to hide behind the sofa in secondhand embarrasment or to lose myself in wild fits of hysterical laughter (though admittedly my level of alcohol intake usually makes the choice for me).


    I know, I know. I can't explain it but every time I see it I have the same reaction.

    dizzy

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeFeb 8th 2016
    Yeah....again, it has to do with Emmerich's completely UNVEILED sense of melodrama. If it had held back just a little more, it would be incredibly bad. But he knows how to turn the knob to max and keep that focus throughout; which is why such over-the-top speeches can create goosebumps; even if you're not American.

    This is basically Emmerich's "project", and I think it's crucial to get that first in order to have any kind of enjoyment from his films. He's a bit like, say, Michael Bay or Zack Snyder that way -- brilliant action auteurs, but you have to sympathize with his project.
    I am extremely serious.
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeFeb 8th 2016 edited
    ^ Yeah... I don't think that way at all. I know who Emmerich is. I loved Stargate, ID4 and Godzilla are guilty, GUILTY pleasures and The Patriot is a gorgeous film to look at, but the rest of his work is rubbish, IMO.

    Hummm... that MIGHT have something to do with the departure of David Arnold on his projects. Maybe it's David Arnold's music that made me tolerate films like ID4 and Godzilla. And of course, you have John Williams on The Patriot. But I can't remember a lick of music Wanker and Kloser have written for Emmerich post Arnold.

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeFeb 8th 2016 edited
    Well, I think Emmerich is one of the most underrated directors out there (not financially, of course, but critically), and is too often dismissed as 'rubbish' based on superficial grounds. Yes, I do think he's misunderstood, and that many people don't "get" what he's about. That being said, I was not impressed by his forray into more 'adult' fare with ANONYMOUS, and I thought WHITE HOUSE DOWN was pants. Neither film played to his strengths. But most everything else, I've found thrilling and superb!
    I am extremely serious.
  19. Independence Day is more than worth it for Arnold's music, the excellent special effects (mostly practical) and the GREAT chemistry between Goldblum and Hirsch... Their interactions are genius. I also love the over the top patriotic 'we're americans and we're gonna kick their alien ass' aspect ! I'm not an american but this film made me want to be one by the time the end credits rolled. Almost ! biggrin

    Plus if one has the luxury of watching it exactly as it should be watched (and heard) the film has one of the most awesome sound mixes I've ever heard. 20 years on it still blows me away every time, and I've heard lots of great mixes since !

    For me, that's also a big part of my enjoyment of a film, to truly get INSIDE the world in the film.
    "considering I've seen an enormous debate here about The Amazing Spider-Man and the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it, I feel myself obliged to say: TASTE DIFFERS, DEAL WITH IT" - Thomas G.
  20. DreamTheater wrote
    the GREAT chemistry between Goldblum and Hirsch... Their interactions are genius.

    They basically spend the entire movie trying to out-Jew each other.
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeFeb 8th 2016
    Yes, it helps that Goldblum is in my Top 5 favourite actors of all time list. Hirsch ain't too bad either.
    I am extremely serious.
    • CommentAuthorAnthony
    • CommentTimeFeb 8th 2016
    Edmund Meinerts wrote
    Every time the David Arnold thread pops up I hope it's to announce that he's scoring something...anything...nope. slant


    Firstly, yes. This.

    Bregt wrote
    Independence Day live at the RAH
    http://scifibulletin.com/2016/02/08/ind … bert-hall/


    Steven wrote
    I'm conflicted. Great score; terrible film.


    Ditto. Casino Royale live at the RAH...I'm there.
  23. Timmer wrote
    The 'why it's rubbish' conversations have long ago worn out so what are the elements that make it a great film for those of you that love it?


    That's a false start, though. A film can have a lot of good elements in it, but simply still be done poorly.
    The views and opinions of Ford A. Thaxton are his own and do not necessarily reflect the ones of ANYONE else.
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeFeb 9th 2016
    I think it's a film that fares better in memory given its iconic imagery (borrowing from various sources, but culminating in something uniquely memorable), but whenever you watch the film you feel betrayed by your memory.
  25. You are all way too critical of something that's supposed to be very tongue-in-cheek. Uploading a virus means the aliens are defeated? Surely that's not to be taken seriously??? smile

    It's simply a fun time at the movies from where I'm sitting.
    "considering I've seen an enormous debate here about The Amazing Spider-Man and the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it, I feel myself obliged to say: TASTE DIFFERS, DEAL WITH IT" - Thomas G.
  26. Thor wrote
    Yes, it helps that Goldblum is in my Top 5 favourite actors of all time list. Hirsch ain't too bad either.


    I like him too, he has a certain mannerism and quirky delivery of his lines. I loved him in Powder, Jurassic Park and The Lost World. Don't think I've seen him in anything the last 10 years though.
    "considering I've seen an enormous debate here about The Amazing Spider-Man and the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it, I feel myself obliged to say: TASTE DIFFERS, DEAL WITH IT" - Thomas G.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeFeb 9th 2016
    I find Goldblum likeable but very limited as an actor. For me his peak was Cronenberg's THE FLY.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeFeb 9th 2016 edited
    Limited schimited. Goldblum is awesome!
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeFeb 9th 2016
    He's fantastic, especially the way he twists every line into something hyper-realistic (within his set persona, of course). And I don't find him limited at all. He can do suspense, drama and comedy with equal ease.
    I am extremely serious.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeFeb 9th 2016
    You need quirky? Jeff's your man.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt

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