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  1. My review of IT, for anyone who's interested:

    https://moviemusicuk.us/2017/09/12/it-b … wallfisch/

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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeSep 12th 2017
    Horror scores are not my favourite listening passtime at the best of times, and mentions of Penderecki have me scrambling for the hills. I'm sure the old nursery rhyme chestnut will work wonders, but overall I think I'll give this a miss.

    Still in two minds about seeing the movie.
    With the possible exception of the old Salem's Lot, and -amazingly- the incredibly creepy The Fog, King translates really poorly to screen I find.
    I could never understand why the 1990 It film was held in such high regard.
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorBobdH
    • CommentTimeSep 13th 2017 edited
    Martijn wrote
    I could never understand why the 1990 It film was held in such high regard.


    Agree. It's all reputation, and no quality. Not just because it's low budget and made for tv, it's simply bad acting (except for Curry), bad dialogue, no mood. I caught a bit of it on tv the other day and it's laughably bad.

    But I think it's gotten its reputation because it was that film you saw as your first horror, for which you were actually too young to see, just enough violence for your innocent mind, and just macabre enough to haunt your nightmares. It's the film no one actually saw save for the announcements when it came on, or you managed to see the first 10 minutes before your bedtime, which got everyone talking on the school yard, which built its reputation. Tim Curry's performance then sticks in your mind, but when you finally DO see it, it's revealed to be a boring and laughable amateur mess. The first time I saw it as a teenager, I was severely let down (by the lack of gore), it was more the "ooohhh, I'm seeing the legendary IT!" idea that kept me going.

    Which is unfair towards the novel of course, because the concept and execution of it in book form is great! This really deserved a proper film all along, and it was too bad it took them so long because of the "classic" (or rather: cult) status of that failed original. After all those glowing reviews I'm actually really looking forward to seeing them getting it RIGHT.

    By the way, I think the problem with King adaptations is mainly because he's such a popular mainstream author who licenses just about anybody to make a film out of his novels, resulting in many amateurs to have a go at it. But that's not to say his novels by definition get horrible movies - think of Misery, Carrie, Stand By Me, The Shawshank Redemption, The Green Mile or The Shining. Or even Apt Pupil and 1408. They're not all masterpieces, but they're certainly not bad. Sure, the problem with adapting a King is usually that his books are strongest in simply living with those characters for a while than they are in actual plot development, which doesn't translate as well, but the concept of his books are usually strong and get a PROPER director (not a Tommy Lee Wallace) and he can get it right.
  2. I love the concept of dollar babies where (with some caveats ) young filmmakers are allowed to learn the chops by adapting his short stories just for a dollar.
    http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website
  3. Martijn wrote
    Horror scores are not my favourite listening passtime at the best of times, and mentions of Penderecki have me scrambling for the hills. I'm sure the old nursery rhyme chestnut will work wonders, but overall I think I'll give this a miss.

    Still in two minds about seeing the movie.
    With the possible exception of the old Salem's Lot, and -amazingly- the incredibly creepy The Fog, King translates really poorly to screen I find.
    I could never understand why the 1990 It film was held in such high regard.


    You didn't like Carrie or The Shining?
    http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website
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      CommentAuthorBobdH
    • CommentTimeSep 13th 2017
    PawelStroinski wrote
    I love the concept of dollar babies where (with some caveats ) young filmmakers are allowed to learn the chops by adapting his short stories just for a dollar.


    Jup, I really like that one too and it shows how generous a man King is - as long as it's those charming student shorts nobody really sees but film students can play around with. As soon as you get into films that, y'know, people will actually see, maybe he should be a bit more careful with who gets to make what.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeSep 13th 2017 edited
    Martijn wrote
    Horror scores are not my favourite listening passtime at the best of times, and mentions of Penderecki have me scrambling for the hills. I'm sure the old nursery rhyme chestnut will work wonders, but overall I think I'll give this a miss.

    Still in two minds about seeing the movie.
    With the possible exception of the old Salem's Lot, and -amazingly- the incredibly creepy The Fog, King translates really poorly to screen I find.
    I could never understand why the 1990 It film was held in such high regard.


    The Fog? I think you mean Darabont's The Mist, a brilliant film IMO. ( gotta love a Lovecraft vibe wink )

    As for King films that translated excellently to screen...

    The Shawshank Redemption
    The Green Mile
    Stand By Me
    The Dead Zone

    None of which are what you'd call horror films.

    DePalma's Carrie is probably the best along with the aforementioned The Mist by a horror definition.

    I liked the old Salem's Lot TV series ( aside from an excellent score by Christopher Gordon the remake is woeful )

    I sort of liked the IT TV series at the time but on a recent viewing it doesn't stand up except for a nostalgic pleasure. I'm surprised it's held in high regard. I loved the novel.

    Kubrick's The Shining is a shit adaptation. Of course Jack Nicholson is watchable as hell but he was totally wrong for an honest adaptation of the novel. It needed someone who could convincingly go from reasonable holding it together recovering alcoholic to crazy mad and big Jack is already at 100% all the way.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  4. A lot of the success of the Darabont films (saw Shawshank and Green Mile many times, not The Mist) is about how big a rapport he has with King. Darabont made a dollar baby King totally loved.
    http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeSep 13th 2017
    Many people appear to be ready to consume whatever's thrown at them as long as it has certain labels on it wink one of them is 'stephen king' it sells a lot wink
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
  5. I think the thing with the It miniseries really is generational, probably a lot of kids saw that, at an age when it came across as truly scary despite being anything but, and the image of Tim Curry as Pennywise is a pretty indelible one. I guarantee you the majority of the people who claim to love it haven't seen it in ages, because if they did they would see just how lame pretty much all of the non-Tim Curry stuff is.

    In any case, I wouldn't even say it's held in high regard, I think the consensus has been revised to "iconic but mediocre" by now tongue