How great is it to be a score fan these passed few years?

Aye, I agree but still... it's best to adjust as much as possible. Because sadly, no one is going to be the way we want them to be, nor will we become they way they want us to. So, best try keep along some way, hehe.

Sure (although I´d remove Indiana Jones from the list), but I was referring to the "thirty to forty years ago" that Martijn was talking about. But of course I expct to live to know dozens of classics

I didn't say such a thing;

Come on mate, we've talked via pm's in the past for a specific reason and i believe you know me better than this. You shouldn't be feeling threatened 24/24 and certainly not by me; sometimes you just have to let go and enjoy life, even if you feel that all what's right and fair in the world is on your shoulders. That might very well be true in some cases, but anyway, if you made your points perfectly clear, there's a line that has to be drawn by you and you alone and relax; let go.

There it was. But let´s end this, I agree.

No no no no no, not getting away THAT easily, Raph!

How does a call for for openness and freedom of speech lead to the conclusion that you wouold want to suppress the like?
Remember, you're talking to D. here. He's Greek.
By extension, he invented democracy! (and I'd bloody well would like a word with you on that, D.)

Within the context of me being already accused of that by Erik, it seemed that way to me. But as I said, I´m willing to leave it now as it is and be quiet about my spoiled funs in the future.

That applies to you as well, that's what i meant and i thought it was pretty evident

The very fact that you should be allowed to express yourself (and you are, i believe that it's also evident during the last 24 hours and several pages of this topic ), that doesn't cancel the automatic and logical - imo - fact that Erik has exactly the same rights as well. That's what you need to understand; that in this forum - at least, he (and everyone else feeling the same) is able and free to bash and express his negative feelings for whatever he feels like it just as much as you are able to express positive input on a work or defend yourself and tastes.

Asking him not to bash Zimmer again or shut up and let you and others enjoy is exactly the same thing as him asking you to leave. You have to understand that.

There, the Greek democracy has spoken.

Oh and for the love of God, enough with it already; get out (this applies to all) get some beer and the warm company of a juicy hot lady (or two), they are - and have always been - the one and only, eternal, essential and diachronic medicine for every bad thing in our lives.

Or better yet, come join me in Demetris' head. Party on duuude!

Obviously you both need a hefty helping of diachronic medicine.

That´s not what I did and that´s what nobody seems to get. What I did was asking him not to bash Zimmer again or shut up right there, in that topic but where I felt it belonged. If that is the same as him asking me to leave the forum, then I´ll be damned.

And now let me enjoy my beer.

Like two blind men?....uhmm, best leave it at that

I think is not a classic in the same sense Star Wars is. The Main Theme is a classic (even if it´s because it´s been used until tiresome) but as a whole, it doesn´t fit my classic status as Star Wars, which IS a classic with capitals.

Just answering in a more or less friendly fashion, I hope. Please feel free to ignore...


First of all, no, I didn´t (in the above post, I just referred to Demetris´ quote as a rhetorical instrument). I took it as your usual dissapointment about scores these days, regardless of who composes them, which is as well known as the fact that you quite often did say that Zimmer was responsible for the dramatic change in film scoring and how he and his clones are getting in the way of movies becoming scored in the way you prefer. So, one way or the other, we all know what you mean when you say you´re dissappointed by the output. And that´s what I was referring to, Zimmer mentioned or not. I know you like some Zimmer scores. But I also know what you think about his style in general as much as I know that even Williams can´t do things right for you these days. It´s your constant dissatisfaction I was talking about. You´re damn hard to satisfy these days, Erik, and instead of asking yourself whether your taste is just too special, you blaim everyone else who doesn´t things the way you like of mediocre talent or enthusiasm.


English may not be my mothers tongue, but I know what "this guy needs serious help" means. So don´t play games with me.


Yes, you did, even if you wanted it to sound like a joke, but you did, and it didn´t actually come across as a joke. (Remember now?)


That´s the problem. I like this place, and if I have the feeling there are things that could be done differently, I will tell you, and not just whince and leave like a beaten dog.


Please, this is - indeed - ridiculous. Who bitched first and who answered to that and who said what that was more ridiculous than the rest is ridiculous indeed. Especially when all I did was asking you to think whether your opinion was really needed right here, again, when everyone can already quote it in sleep.


Well, geographically, you are for me, but I hope you know I don´t mean that as an insult. I just referred to the American Way of Life regarding to that freedom of speech thing, not to your actual heritage.


It wasn´t so much what you said, it was the way you said it with a totally out of place, embarrassing and vibrating arrogance. Cringeworthy. Even if you were right, and if I didn´t know you, I would have thought immediately: "Who does the guy think who he is? Mozart?" It was your attitude (which, BTW, comes across as arrogant quite often on your show, but this time it was just too much to bear). That doesn´t mean I don´t like what you do with your show (which is the reason why I constantly return), it´s just that feeling of snobbish arrogance that comes across, sorry.

To end this, I see no need to go any further, since every aspect has been answred to and quoted and been discussed to death even before your return, so let´s just leave it. I will admit that I was harsh, but that´s it. You´ll get nothing else from me. Seriously.

Going off on a tangent of the tangent: I -surprise, surprise- like critics/reviewers to speak their mind. Collymoddling or pussyfooting around bores me. I prefer strong statements to pique my interest.

Of course that does entail a like reaction, but my thinking always is that if you can dish it out (especially publically), you should be able to take it as well.

That said, I always found Erik's comments on the show to be relatively mild (unless he really, really loves something, in which case it shines through like kryptonite through Superman!)
...which may probably say more about me rather than about Erik's style.

I have no sound available just now, but I shall listen to it anon, and give you my undiluted feedback!