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GEORGES DELERUE
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- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeNov 29th 2007
Time for a new thread on one of my all time favourite composersOn Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentTimeNov 29th 2007
I'm in the mood for some Delerue, but can't rightly decide what score.
Hmmmm...'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentTimeNov 29th 2007
Dien Bien Phu!Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentTimeNov 29th 2007
OK, let's do that.'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthordjdave
- CommentTimeJan 6th 2008 edited
Have got A Little Romance on order thru Amazon.
I've got the Main Titles on a compilation, and have listened to the rest of the score using the Windows Media Player option on Amazon.com.
It's lovely, lovely stuff.
He also wrote the score for one of my favorite films, Fred Zimmerman's A Man For All Seasons although I don't think it's available commercially. -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJan 7th 2008
djdave wrote
Have got A Little Romance on order thru Amazon.
I've got the Main Titles on a compilation, and have listened to the rest of the score using the Windows Media Player option on Amazon.com.
It's lovely, lovely stuff.
He also wrote the score for one of my favorite films, Fred Zimmerman's A Man For All Seasons although I don't think it's available commercially.
It was available as an LP, Not having heard it I don't know how much score, if any, is on the LP as it's mostly dialogue , there wasn't that much music in the film but what was there was very good.
Isn't most of A Little Romance mostly adapted Vivaldi? Delerue always deserved an Oscar but just NOT for this score! 79 should have been Goldsmith's year for Star Trek The Motion Picture.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentTimeJan 7th 2008
Timmer wrote
Isn't most of A Little Romance mostly adapted Vivaldi? Delerue always deserved an Oscar but just NOT for this score! 79 should have been Goldsmith's year for Star Trek The Motion Picture.
I also seem to recall that it was mostly adapted from Vivaldi's music.The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJan 7th 2008
FalkirkBairn wrote
Timmer wrote
Isn't most of A Little Romance mostly adapted Vivaldi? Delerue always deserved an Oscar but just NOT for this score! 79 should have been Goldsmith's year for Star Trek The Motion Picture.
I also seem to recall that it was mostly adapted from Vivaldi's music.
Yep, it always seemed to me that the Academy voted Vivaldi as the best original score of 1979!?On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthordjdave
- CommentTimeJan 7th 2008 edited
Tim and Alan, when you say adapted, do you mean "influenced by" or adapted as in he just changed the notes around a bit? I think it's beautiful music, but part of the reason I've bought it is to play it on my film music show. I'm a bit pedantic about these things and I'd be wary of playing it if it's just a straight rip off.
Also, he did the music to The Day of The Dolphin, which I remember enjoying (and shedding a tear over) many years ago. Is it one of his good ones? -
- CommentTimeJan 7th 2008
djdave wrote
Tim and Alan, when you say adapted, do you mean "influenced by" or adapted as in he just changed the notes around a bit? I think it's beautiful music, but part of the reason I've bought it is to play it on my film music show. I'm a bit pedantic about these things and I'd be wary of playing it if it's just a straight rip off.
I don't know the score at all, so I can't really comment on the extent to which Delerue pilfered Vivaldi. The Varese CD release does suggest that Delerue did compose some original music for the film. But whether there's Vivaldi incorporated into these tracks? Someone more knowledgeable could maybe comment.
The entry in this informative site may help: http://www.settling-the-score.com/little-romance.htmlThe views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthordjdave
- CommentTimeJan 7th 2008 edited
FalkirkBairn wrote
djdave wrote
Tim and Alan, when you say adapted, do you mean "influenced by" or adapted as in he just changed the notes around a bit? I think it's beautiful music, but part of the reason I've bought it is to play it on my film music show. I'm a bit pedantic about these things and I'd be wary of playing it if it's just a straight rip off.
I don't know the score at all, so I can't really comment on the extent to which Delerue pilfered Vivaldi. The Varese CD release does suggest that Delerue did compose some original music for the film. But whether there's Vivaldi incorporated into these tracks? Someone more knowledgeable could maybe comment.
The entry in this informative site may help: http://www.settling-the-score.com/little-romance.html
Thanks for that, Alan. I've been on the site, and then copied and pasted the particular Vivaldi piece into Amazon.com and then played it on Windows Media Player.
Sadly, it looks as if he lifted it pretty much note for note (at least the cue I was going to play on the show). Don't get me wrong: it's still beautiful music. It's just that I can't play it if it 'aint original. By that I mean original to the composer, not necessarily the film itself. I have played stuff from The Godfather, even though Rota used music he'd composed for a different film. But at least that was written by Rota, and I explained it in the link i.e. how his Oscar nomination was withdrawn.
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- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJan 7th 2008
I wouldn't be too disappointed Dave, you've still discovered some lovely music.
I'm not sure if Vivaldi actually wrote the piece for guitar and there is debate over it, but all the versions I've heard are played on guitar, John Williams version is great. ( the guitarist not the....oh, you know...)On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentTimeJan 7th 2008
It was just a popular classical evergreen used several times in the movie, it doesn't sound to me like he tried to conceal it and pass it off as his own. It's of course sad if the academy members thought the Vivaldi piece was Delerue, but that said, there's plenty of catchy and gorgeous original Delerue music on the album too, the main theme is one of my alltime favorites, so it's not a sure thing that he won the oscar simply because of the Vivaldi piece.
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- CommentTimeJan 7th 2008
Timmer wrote
I'm not sure if Vivaldi actually wrote the piece for guitar and there is debate over it, but all the versions I've heard are played on guitar, John Williams version is great. ( the guitarist not the....oh, you know...)
I've always assumed it was composed for lute. That's often how it appears on classical compilations. I do prefer it on guitar though, my favorite version performed by Kaare Norge.
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- CommentTimeJan 7th 2008
plindboe wrote
Timmer wrote
I'm not sure if Vivaldi actually wrote the piece for guitar and there is debate over it, but all the versions I've heard are played on guitar, John Williams version is great. ( the guitarist not the....oh, you know...)
I've always assumed it was composed for lute. That's often how it appears on classical compilations. I do prefer it on guitar though, my favorite version performed by Kaare Norge.
Peter
There's actually an artist named Kaare Norge?I am extremely serious. -
- CommentTimeJan 7th 2008
Hehe, ja. Jeg ved dog ikke om han er fra Norge.
Peter -
- CommentTimeJan 7th 2008
A Google search reveals that he's a dane. *beaming of national pride*
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- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJan 7th 2008 edited
Thor wrote
plindboe wrote
Timmer wrote
I'm not sure if Vivaldi actually wrote the piece for guitar and there is debate over it, but all the versions I've heard are played on guitar, John Williams version is great. ( the guitarist not the....oh, you know...)
I've always assumed it was composed for lute. That's often how it appears on classical compilations. I do prefer it on guitar though, my favorite version performed by Kaare Norge.
Peter
There's actually an artist named Kaare Norge?
He's a Danish classical guitarist.
Edited to add : Peter got here firstOn Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentTimeJan 7th 2008
You know of him, Timmer? Or is it just your Google Fu speaking?
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- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJan 7th 2008
plindboe wrote
You know of him, Timmer? Or is it just your Google Fu speaking?
Peter
No I had to google it, I'd never heard of him before so I thought I'd look it up. I'll look out for his name on classical releases in future.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentTimeJan 7th 2008
plindboe wrote
A Google search reveals that he's a dane. *beaming of national pride*
Peter
A Dane named Norge?!?! I'd say he's living in the past, eh?I am extremely serious. -
- CommentTimeJan 7th 2008
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- CommentTimeJan 10th 2008
I'm ashamed to admit it, but I do not own a single Georges Delerue score. Any recommendations to start me off? -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeJan 10th 2008
Get out of town before Demetris gets here.A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentTimeJan 10th 2008 edited
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- CommentTimeJan 10th 2008
David wrote
I'm ashamed to admit it, but I do not own a single Georges Delerue score. Any recommendations to start me off?
Wow! You're surely in for a great treat then! There's a nice 2cd Delerue compilation in Varese's Great Composers series. You could dig deeper from there once you find yourself liking a particular kind of Delerue. I prefer his scores featuring the sweeping love themes plus religious themed movies.
Some of my favorites: Black Robe, Agnes of God, Black Stallion Returns... -
- CommentTimeJan 10th 2008 edited
David wrote
I'm ashamed to admit it, but I do not own a single Georges Delerue score. Any recommendations to start me off?
Woah mate, you've got a lot of listening to do! Delerue had an admittedly unique gift for melodic development and gorgeous writing for the string orchestra. The majority of his work is lushing, unstoppable romantic and irresistibly beautiful.
I'd deeply recommend these for starters
Diên Biên Phu
Black Robe
Joe Versus the Volcano
Steel Magnolias
Révolution française, La
Chouans!
Platoon
Salvador
Agnes of God
But if i were you, i'd get the GREATEST COMPOSERS: GEORGES DELERUE (3CD) compilation first which contains really the best of his music and will give you great guidance where to go next from there; there's a similar (or is it the same exactly?) version flowing around that goes by the name GEORGES DELERUE - THE LONDON SESSIONS (3CD). Let me know if you can't find anything.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentTimeJan 10th 2008
Thanks -- looks like I've got some catching up to do! -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJan 10th 2008 edited
Christodoulides wrote
David wrote
I'm ashamed to admit it, but I do not own a single Georges Delerue score. Any recommendations to start me off?
Woah mate, you've got a lot of listening to do! Delerue had an admittedly unique gift for melodic development and gorgeous writing for the string orchestra. The majority of his work is lushing, unstoppable romantic and irresistibly beautiful.
I'd deeply recommend these for starters
Diên Biên Phu
Black Robe
Joe Versus the Volcano
Steel Magnolias
Révolution française, La
Chouans!
Platoon
Salvador
Agnes of God
But if i were you, i'd get the GREATEST COMPOSERS: GEORGES DELERUE (3CD) compilation first which contains really the best of his music and will give you great guidance where to go next from there; there's a similar (or is it the same exactly?) version flowing around that goes by the name GEORGES DELERUE - THE LONDON SESSIONS (3CD). Let me know if you can't find anything.
I have the 3 CD 'London Sessions' and I believe it's exactly the same content. Some ttracks like the suites from Agnes Of God and True Confessions are from the original scores, the majority are re-recorded suites and themes conducted by the composer at Abbey Road studios in London.
Whatever you get, Happy listening David, Delerue is one of the greatest film composers ever IMO.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentTimeJan 10th 2008
Timmer wrote
I have the 3 CD 'London Sessions' and I believe it's exactly the same content. Some ttracks like the suites from Agnes Of God and True Confessions are from the original scores, the majority are re-recorded suites and themes conducted by the composer at Abbey Road studios in London.
How can it be the same if one set has 2 CD's and the other has 3 CD's? Is the 2CD set more crammed than the 3CD set?I am extremely serious.