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  1. Howard Blake's The Snowman?
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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd 2010
    biggrin applause

    I do like it though smile
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  2. Conan The Snowman? Now there's something to consider.
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  3. I just got reminded of something I witnessed when our film music website (the one I have below my posts) had a gathering in the place of one of us.

    A guy who wrote his MA thesis in the history of the studio system bought a book, a kind of chronicle of film music. Being the fanboy I was back then I said the book was weak, because one or two important Hans scores (yes, I have been worse than Nautilus back then, still) wasn't in that. A bit of laugh at my expense happened (I joined as usual) and then a guy went through the index to see the names mentioned. Moments later:

    "Who the FUCK is Boris Poledouris??" biggrin
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd 2010
    no argument from me on your choice Alan
    listen to more classical music!
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd 2010 edited
    FalkirkBairn wrote
    Timmer wrote
    I won't beat up on you for your choice, Alan, it's a damn worthy choice in one hell of a phenomenal year for film music. beer

    Go on. Let me hear your perspective on an alternate choice.



    In mid July 1982 I went to London, Convent Garden to be precise, where a soundtrack shop I regularly visited was situated, That's Entertainment, which is long gone now, had a phenomenal selection of old and new soundtracks, probably greater even than the famous 58 Dean Street, I remember this day so well, it was the day that I picked up what I consider the greatest haul of scores I've ever picked up, not that I knew it at those moments because I hadn't heard a single second of any of them, the LP's I picked up were...

    E.T. The Extra Terrestrial - John Williams
    Conan The Barbarian - Basil Poledouris
    Star Trek II : The Wrath of Khan - James Horner
    ( and the very first Horner score I ever bought )
    Monsignor - John Williams
    The Last Valley - John Barry
    ( the only album that wasn't brand new )

    All of these, 28+ years later are all still favourites, all are scores I continuously play to this day but if I had to choose one of the four from 1982 it would be...


    E.T. THE EXTRA-TERRESTRIAL - John Williams


    There, that probably took one or two of you by surprise but there's a reason for this, it's the score above all scores that means something truly personal to me, it's the score I became most acquainted with as my Dad lay dying in hospital, he died three days after my trip to London and this score with it's heartfelt emotions, music to say 'goodbye' to if you like has become part of my father, I still miss him greatly and this music has always played a great part in that healing, it's probably why you'll rarely, if ever, see an NP from me with this score on it, it's just such a personal experience for me.

    It's also one of the most perfect film music albums ever produced.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  4. Thanks for sharing this experience. I don't think I've ever had such an emotional response to a post as I've just had to your one.

    I think that many of my choices are governed by emotional ties like your own - though I have been fortunate enough so far not to have gone through the trauma of the loss of a parent. These emotional or experiences with scores are why this isn't a "best soundtrack" list and why I sometimes do not articulate well the reasons why a choice is a choice.

    Again, thanks for posting Tim at my insistence. With our 3rd anniversary of MainTitles fresh in the mind, peoples' willingness to share experiences such as this highlights one of the strengths of our community.
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd 2010 edited
    Touching story, Tim. I can see why 1982 is such a cornerstone year in your life(?), not only film music.

    For my own part, it's a battle between two scores: BLADE RUNNER and E.T. Both happen to be among my very top favourites, and both were analysis chapters in my thesis several years ago.

    There are other great scores too (some of which have been mentioned already) - CONAN, STAR TREK II, MONSIGNOR, FIRST BLOOD and PINK FLOYD: THE WALL (OK, so it's not exactly score in the traditional sense).

    But when all is said and done, it HAS to be BLADE RUNNER - one of the most perfect scores in history (as it works in the film) and also a spectacular soundtrack album, dialogue notwithstanding.
    I am extremely serious.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd 2010 edited
    Indeed, Alan, indeed! smile beer

    As for CONAN THE BARBARIAN, it's odd to look back on myself in 1982 and realise that I wasn't too taken with the score at fiirst, even a bit disappointed, I had honestly thought, for whatever reason, that Jerry Goldsmith would be scoring it ( maybe because he'd done Milius's THE WIND AND THE LION ), somewhere along the way I played it more and more until it became one of my all time favourite scores and a complete reversal of thought; it's not often you reflect and praise Crom that a composer of Jerry Goldsmith's calibre didn't score a particular film.

    At a guess, I think CONAN may be the most played of ANY album that I own.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd 2010
    I understand the personal feelings about a particular score. I remember seeing Shane when I was 4 or 5 at the theater and how that theme stayed with me.
    listen to more classical music!
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd 2010
    Thor wrote
    Touching story, Tim. I can see why 1982 is such a cornerstone year in your life(?), not only film music.

    For my own part, it's a battle between two scores: BLADE RUNNER and E.T. Both happen to be among my very top favourites, and both were analysis chapters in my thesis several years ago.

    There are other great scores too (some of which have been mentioned already) - CONAN, STAR TREK II, MONSIGNOR, FIRST BLOOD and PINK FLOYD: THE WALL (OK, so it's not exactly score in the traditional sense).

    But when all is said and done, it HAS to be BLADE RUNNER - one of the most perfect scores in history (as it works in the film) and also a spectacular soundtrack album, dialogue notwithstanding.


    BLADERUNNER is without doubt one of the great scores ( and not just of 1982 ), I saw the film on it's release, imagine my disappointment that there was no soundtrack album slant

    A few other great scores from 1982 that haven't been mentioned...

    THE DARK CRYSTAL - Trevor Jones
    INCHON - Jerry Goldsmith
    THE SECRET OF NIMH - Jerry Goldsmith
    HAMMETT - John Barry
    FRANCES - John Barry
    THE SWORD AND THE SORCERER - David Whitaker
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorplindboe
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd 2010
    Funny that Wrath of Khan is such a favourite among so many. I've yet to find much appealing about it.

    Alan, how's Halloween III like? Curious to see you mention that, since I've never heard anyone else mention it before. The only Halloween I know is the famous and rather cool theme from the first movie.

    My choice for '82 would definitely be Conan the barbarian (Poledouris). Nothing comes close, despite it being a very strong year. Honorable mention goes to Marco Polo (Morricone), which would have been my second choice.

    Peter smile
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeDec 2nd 2010
    If I were to give a Top 5 of the year, it would look like this:

    1. BLADE RUNNER
    2. PINK FLOYD: THE WALL -- if it counts
    3. E.T.
    4. CONAN
    5. MONSIGNOR

    I'm not really that hot on ST2 either, Peter. Too bombastic and all that. Used to like it in my teens and early 20's, though.
    I am extremely serious.
  5. plindboe wrote
    Alan, how's Halloween III like? Curious to see you mention that, since I've never heard anyone else mention it before. The only Halloween I know is the famous and rather cool theme from the first movie.

    That's because most people don't like the film and probably don't like the score either.

    Like the film, the music is completely separate from the scores that was featured in the first two Halloween films. There's no reference at all to the famous theme.

    I have a soft spot for both the film and the score - it's another example of a film that I taped off the TV and tried to examine how the music worked in the film. Even I'm not too keen on a significant portion of the score (tracks 9-12 of this expanded release were the last 4 tracks on the LP/original CD release and there's nothing special here). The clips give a feel for the score but are not the best indications of the score as a whole.

    However, there are several great set piece tracks that are always on a "best of" playlist. Chase tracks such as "Chariots of Pumpkins" and "First Chase" are great rhythmic synth cues that fitted right into my Jean-Michel Jarre-listening time and tracks "Hello Grandma" and "It Will Be Morning Soon" feature a simple sequence of a descending motif that just oozes doom, resignation, inevitability that I find is just a great marriage of score and visuals. And is a great example of what Carpenter/Howarth did so well.

    From about 4:00 to 5:25 of this YouTube video shows the scene that sticks in my mind the most. Just a great sequence.

    For some reason I just love it.
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  6. Anyone ready for another one?

    1983 - The Dead Zone - Michael Kamen

    This may be a choice that has many people running from this list shouting "This is just ridiculous!" and throwing titles such as Brainstorm, Krull, Return of The Jedi and many others as possible alternatives for 1983. But this is another film that I've poured over with the music on cassette by my side. I find the movie an enjoyable Stephen King adaptation and I think that Kamen nailed the whole feeling of what "might have been" with his score.

    Admittedly, there's not much to the score that's on CD; there's no great standout cues but, as with Halloween III, the marriage of the score, the visuals and (maybe this can't be said for the Halloween sequel) emotional baggage elevated this score up the list to one of my favourites. Kamen manages to translate cries of anguish at what's happening to the two leads to music in cues such as "Hospital Visit" and "Lost Love" that always pulls on the heart strings. And Kamen's score throughout the film adds more gravitas to the climax of the film and makes it quite a poignant ending.

    We all know scores such as Brainstorm, Krull and Return of The Jedi and we can all parade great tracks - I'm always saying how wonderful "Lillian's Heart Attack" from Horner's Brainstorm is - but it's the emotional punch that Kamen's score gives me that makes it a standout.

    Other less well known standout scores from 1983 include Trevor Jones' Nate and Hayes and Richard Band's Metalstorm: The Destruction of Jared-Syn. And Jerry Goldsmith's Twilight Zone: The Movie has some great music - though mainly from the "Nightmare At 20,000 Feet" portion of the film. BTW, I don't really know Horner's Something Wicked This Way Comes well enough yet to form a solid opinion on this.

    This was a good year for TV: Mike Post/Pete Carpenter's music for The A-Team is a firm favourite and Robert Cobert's The Winds of War theme seemed to be on TV for many weeks this year! And when Cobert's music wasn't to be heard at home it would be Joe Harnell's music for the mini-series V.
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  7. Wow. I've never even heard of that Kamen score.

    I'll make my first contribution to this thread by throwing my favorite 1983 score out there: Goldsmith's Underfire. I just really like that score. More even (though just barely) than Return of the Jedi.
  8. Under Fire is one that was expecting to see mentioned. Always a popular Goldsmith score for people. It's one that I've just never connected with.
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  9. Oh? I think it's a masterpiece. The CD itself is one I am connected to strongly. I bought it during my first time in London. My second time was Goldfinger and The Living Daylights. I really regret they didn't have On Her Majesty's Secret Service though!
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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2010
    plindboe wrote
    Funny that Wrath of Khan is such a favourite among so many. I've yet to find much appealing about it.

    Alan, how's Halloween III like? Curious to see you mention that, since I've never heard anyone else mention it before. The only Halloween I know is the famous and rather cool theme from the first movie.

    My choice for '82 would definitely be Conan the barbarian (Poledouris). Nothing comes close, despite it being a very strong year. Honorable mention goes to Marco Polo (Morricone), which would have been my second choice.

    Peter smile


    I didn't realise Marco Polo was from 82 ( because I didn't hear or buy it until years later ) but what a fantastic score it is, yet another reason 82 was one of the strongest years ever.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2010
    FalkirkBairn wrote
    Under Fire is one that was expecting to see mentioned. Always a popular Goldsmith score for people. It's one that I've just never connected with.


    I think I know what my choice for 83 is but I'll leave it till tomorrow. As for UNDER FIRE, I do connect with it big time, one of JG's best IMO.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2010
    PawelStroinski wrote
    Oh? I think it's a masterpiece. The CD itself is one I am connected to strongly. I bought it during my first time in London. My second time was Goldfinger and The Living Daylights. I really regret they didn't have On Her Majesty's Secret Service though!


    Have you got OHMSS yet?
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2010
    Timmer wrote
    plindboe wrote
    Funny that Wrath of Khan is such a favourite among so many. I've yet to find much appealing about it.

    Alan, how's Halloween III like? Curious to see you mention that, since I've never heard anyone else mention it before. The only Halloween I know is the famous and rather cool theme from the first movie.

    My choice for '82 would definitely be Conan the barbarian (Poledouris). Nothing comes close, despite it being a very strong year. Honorable mention goes to Marco Polo (Morricone), which would have been my second choice.

    Peter smile


    I didn't realise Marco Polo was from 82 ( because I didn't hear or buy it until years later ) but what a fantastic score it is, yet another reason 82 was one of the strongest years ever.


    Marco Polo; such a fantastic score.
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  10. Marco Polo is another score I don't really connect with. I don't really know why. Maybe if I see the TV (?) series that would change?
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2010
    I owned THE DEAD ZONE for a while, but it was a little too bleak, to be honest. Too much subdued intensity. But I seem to remember that it worked wonderfully in the film.

    Even though RETURN OF THE JEDI is a little too rambunctious for my taste these days, there's no getting around the fact that it's one of my favourite scores and IMO the best STAR WARS score of them all. So that's a definite contender. Other contenders include TWILIGHT ZONE: THE MOVIE, UNDER FIRE, RISKY BUSINESS and SCARFACE.

    But in the end, it will have to fall down on ROTJ - contemporary taste notwithstanding.
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  11. Return of The Jedi is my least favourite of the original trilogy. Although there are some top tracks on the expanded set l have never warmed to the lifts made from the earlier films or the music for the Ewoks.
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  12. Timmer wrote
    PawelStroinski wrote
    Oh? I think it's a masterpiece. The CD itself is one I am connected to strongly. I bought it during my first time in London. My second time was Goldfinger and The Living Daylights. I really regret they didn't have On Her Majesty's Secret Service though!


    Have you got OHMSS yet?


    No. I will get it when money and availability provides.
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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2010
    PawelStroinski wrote
    Timmer wrote
    PawelStroinski wrote
    Oh? I think it's a masterpiece. The CD itself is one I am connected to strongly. I bought it during my first time in London. My second time was Goldfinger and The Living Daylights. I really regret they didn't have On Her Majesty's Secret Service though!


    Have you got OHMSS yet?


    No. I will get it when money and availability provides.


    Oddly, it seems to be the only Bond score that I never see in music stores ( it sold out? ), a shame because up until fairly recently I'd seen it going for cheap along with many other Bond scores, even the most recent, Quantum of Solace, I saw for only £2.

    I guess I don't have to tell you to make sure it's the expanded/remastered OHMSS.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  13. That's the copies of Goldfinger and Living Daylights I own.
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeDec 3rd 2010
    My choice for the year would have been Cross Creek but then again I'm a fan of Rosenman. I thought the movie was also quite well done. For those of you who don't know it is the story of Rawlings, the writer of the book The Yearling.
    listen to more classical music!
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeDec 5th 2010
    Jedi beaten after Conan was left out. sad
    I think I will need some therapy before I'm able to return to this thread.
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