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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeMay 21st 2011
    I think this deserves its own thread:


    Bregt wrote
    And in the mean time, Spain is Tahriring the shit out of its cities...
    http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/europ … .protests/

    People are really gathering everywhere. Is it different from Greece D?


    Take a look at this. Barcelona downtown (Plaza Catalunya):

    http://www.lavanguardia.com/galerias-fo … genes.html

    Madrid downtown (Puerta del Sol):

    http://politica.elpais.com/politica/201 … 63863.html
    Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you
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      CommentAuthorBregt
    • CommentTimeMay 21st 2011
    Not sure if you can call it a revolution already. smile

    But it is impressive and a little frightening!
    Kazoo
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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeMay 21st 2011 edited
    Bregt wrote
    Not sure if you can call it a revolution already. smile

    But it is impressive and a little frightening!


    Well, a revolution in a democratict context....but I had never seen anything like this in Madrid before (except the anti Irak invasion demonstration in 2003).
    Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeMay 21st 2011
    This -more than anything- looks like the "protests" in the former Sovjet Union after teh Jeltzin take-over, with people harkening back to the "good old days" of Stalin, when at least everything was clear and organised.

    I can see groups of people moving, but there's no goal or incentive to proper change.
    Unless they let go of the old values (voting for the Communists again? Come ON! Hello 1955!), and tere is some proper shift in the organisation and goals of the existing parties, NOTHING will change. People will get bored and go home again. In which case any proper change (vis a vis inflation and unemployment) will still remain a pan-European issue.
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeMay 21st 2011
    I'm afraid you are right.
    Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeMay 21st 2011
    Martijn wrote
    This -more than anything- looks like the "protests" in the former Sovjet Union after teh Jeltzin take-over, with people harkening back to the "good old days" of Stalin, when at least everything was clear and organised.

    I can see groups of people moving, but there's no goal or incentive to proper change.
    Unless they let go of the old values (voting for the Communists again? Come ON! Hello 1955!), and tere is some proper shift in the organisation and goals of the existing parties, NOTHING will change. People will get bored and go home again. In which case any proper change (vis a vis inflation and unemployment) will still remain a pan-European issue.


    I couldn't agree more
    listen to more classical music!
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      CommentAuthorMarselus
    • CommentTimeMay 28th 2011 edited
    Brutality against protesters in Barcelona this morning. Ashaming and outrageous.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Geg_6Xoy … ture=share

    http://www.20minutos.tv/video/gMNTWY08- … orrazos/0/

    http://www.20minutos.tv/video/bxyGOX13- … rcelona/0/
    Anything with an orchestra or with a choir....at some point will reach you
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeMay 28th 2011
    Dispicable!

    British Police aren't much better.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt