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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeOct 16th 2011
    Certainly not a composer that many of us are aware of I've found myself somewhat fascinated with the score to COLOSSUS OF NEW YORK. On first listen, which was while I watched the film I immediately thought it was based on the Schoenberg 12 tone system but on further examination I found that to be wrong. Van Cleave studied music under Joseph Schillinger who created what was called "the System" based on jazz energy and mathematics. I think that this score is based on his teachings. I want to hear what others think of this score.
    Tom smile
    listen to more classical music!
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeOct 16th 2011
    Schoenberg and Schillinger are far from my favourite composers, so the chance that I will visit Cleave's score is ratehr remote, I fear.
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeOct 16th 2011
    Even so it is worth your time to watch the film and then form an opinion. Remember "contempt prior to investigation"
    Tom
    listen to more classical music!
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeOct 16th 2011
    I wouldn't even know where to start watching out for a film like that.
    Used to be that the BBC broadcast these old sci-fi flicks on Friday night (likewise Sky Channel)...but no such luck over the last decade or so.

    So it'll be by a stroke of luck should I ever catch it.
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeOct 16th 2011
    Martijn wrote
    I wouldn't even know where to start watching out for a film like that.
    Used to be that the BBC broadcast these old sci-fi flicks on Friday night (likewise Sky Channel)...but no such luck over the last decade or so.

    So it'll be by a stroke of luck should I ever catch it.


    It used to be a real joy to return from the pub on a Friday or Saturday night and watch 50's sci-fi films, Hammer horrors and Universal classics, now it all seems to be reality cop chases and gambling type phone-ins and other tripe.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  6. The film has been uploaded to Youtube. I watched some of it to get an idea of how the music fitted with the music before my CD arrived. I wasn't sure myself how well it fitted in the film. The score seemed to be too much of a departure from the film.

    As a standalone listen it is quite a difficult and challenging listen.
    The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeOct 18th 2011
    http://sdtom.wordpress.com/2011/10/17/c … an-cleave/

    My review of Colossus of New York
    listen to more classical music!
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeOct 18th 2011
    I could send you the film if you like Martijn
    listen to more classical music!
  9. sdtom wrote
    http://sdtom.wordpress.com/2011/10/17/c … an-cleave/

    My review of Colossus of New York

    Nice review Tom. I haven't listened to this one again since I received it a couple of weeks ago. I should really sit down with it again and give it a good listen.
    The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeOct 18th 2011
    thanks Alan. I did find that repeated listens improved my understanding of the score. I also watched the movie twice so in this case I was able to do my homework.
    Tom
    listen to more classical music!
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeNov 8th 2011
    working on Robinson Crusoe on Mars
    listen to more classical music!
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeNov 8th 2011
    Ha! I have that film lined up for viewing shortly!
    So looking forward to matching up my own experience with your review, Tom!
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeNov 8th 2011
    Martijn wrote
    Ha! I have that film lined up for viewing shortly!
    So looking forward to matching up my own experience with your review, Tom!


    Do you have the Criterion version?
    listen to more classical music!
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      CommentAuthorAtham
    • CommentTimeNov 8th 2011
    I have it on Blu-ray. Looks great!
    I look forward to reading your review Tom!
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeNov 9th 2011
    Working on it right now
    listen to more classical music!
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeNov 9th 2011
    I haven't seen that film since ...........mid 70's?

    I look forward to reading a review.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  17. Timmer wrote
    I haven't seen that film since ...........mid 70's?

    I look forward to reading a review.

    I remember you asking me for an opinion on this many months ago but I never got round to it. I hope that Tom's review will help you out.
    The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeNov 9th 2011
    I can tell you this it has one great track title. Its called Martian Matzo Balls cheesy
    listen to more classical music!
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeNov 9th 2011
    The film was 1964
    listen to more classical music!
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeNov 9th 2011
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      CommentAuthorAtham
    • CommentTimeNov 9th 2011
    Good review Tom! I'm playing it again now.
    Van Cleave was very good at atmospheric composition.
    Some of his Twilight Zone scores were very eerie!
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeNov 9th 2011
    I will complete the trilogy of the FSM releases after I watch Space Children. Like Pope and Friedhofer he was an excellent orchestrator as well as composer.
    Tom
    listen to more classical music!

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