The Man who Steals Threads (Man of Steel)

I think so personally, yes. Especially judging by all the discussions in every single forum I've read.

SUPERMAN is a franchise many of us have a connection to, and this is one of those major 'event' movies, IMO.

I want to click on the Zimmer thread and read about something else than MAN OF STEEL soon.

edit: in reply to Martijn

Well, why not? I think the hullabaloo is coming to an end now though.

I'm actually not a fan of superhero movies either. That belongs to my childhood. But that's another reason for 'relegating' the discussion to its own thread, so that it doesn't take over the others.

Interestingly, I found the movie emotionally rather empty. It's all big words, virtually no comic relief at all, a major dramatic scene got laughs from the audience (and that was a press showing!) and I got lost in some of the action scenes, as in Snyder couldnt' make things clear.

When it has to the music, I found it mostly... working, with a few moments where it was allowed to shine (actually Goodbye, My Son made me cry; the first flight is, I think scored quite brilliantly, whoever would complain about the cue is structured on album, see the scene and it'll make more sense; I also loved all the final action music, but when the ambient material from the beginning returns, it struck me a bit as odd) and in some cases I found the music somehow inappropriate (there is a piano ostinato that doesn't really sound like being on an alien ship, but rather like Jack Ryan preparing a CIA analysis) and in some cases the internal concept of the music is ruined - especially when a really chamber and beautiful statement of a theme on nothing else than a solo violin (I actually wished that the music would be more allowed to shine through lack of sound effects - I liked how that was done in a scene from Star Trek Into Darkness) suddenly turns into an ostinato-ridden brassy track, which took me out of the movie for a while.

The piano stuff, while really simple, proved my theory that it will work the best in the movie. The most simple concepts are working out.

Oh, and I found the structural idea of the score when it came to the development of the thematic material very sensible, much more coherent than the ideas of developing the material (basically changing chord progressions) in the Dark Knight trilogy. It makes a lot of sense - which material does the Superman theme from and in which scenes it gets developed - it's hardly used in the pure action material (which is quite dark in writing), but is related to major moments of character development.

The other thing that I found very sensible and good in a conceptual sense was that most of the ambient material is related to Krypton and there are two themes for the main character - there is a theme for Kal-El stemming directly from the Krypton ambience and there is the theme for Clark Kent which gets developed into a theme for Superman.

That said, I wish Hans would have addressed the complexity of General Zod better than he did - Zod just has this big theme, but actually I liked the construction of Zod as a villain, he's a bit more complex than whatever Hollywood is trying to do recently and it was maybe my favourite aspect of the movie as a whole.

Fair enough.

What!? He's right, ain't he?
Supes ALWAYS tells the truth!



Bregt's empire will mainly consist of the small island of Elba.
Where he will be guarded by cats.

BIG cats that'll tear his bona parte.

I was recently discussing Herrmann and the thought occurred to me what he could have done with this.

If he were given carte blanche I think he would. He tackled some fantasy scores.
Tom

I'm trying to think whether there were any films during Herrmann's lifetime that were anywhere near as furious in their pace as today's "action blockbusters".

I can't think of one except the Harryhausen material.
Tom

I wouldn't quite put it as absolutely as all that.
After all, people assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect, but actually, from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly... timey-wimey... stuff.

Yeah.
Anyway.
Nothing is destroyed, nothing is created, and it will all come around again.
Yeah.

skyfall

The dyslexic in me didn't even notice.