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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2017
    "Oriental Evil" is laughable because the male star is 7' tall among the japanese
    listen to more classical music!
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      CommentAuthorAidabaida
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2017
    I tried watching the 2009 STAR TREK last night. I loved it when I first saw it in 2009, but now... Well, the first hour is entertaining, but the plot is NONSENSICAL. Nero watches the destruction of his planet, gets sent back 25 years, and instead of saving his planet, he decides to destroy the homeplanet of the guy who tried to help?
    Bach's music is heartless and robotic.
  1. Anyone see last night's episode of DOCTOR WHO, 'World Enough and Time'? One of the best episodes in years!
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      CommentAuthorAidabaida
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2017
    FalkirkBairn wrote
    Anyone see last night's episode of DOCTOR WHO, 'World Enough and Time'? One of the best episodes in years!


    I started watching Doctor Who at Season 5 (Matt Smith's first season). I adored Season 5, liked Season 6 a lot, and just gave up halfway through Season 7 because the writing got so bad.

    Is it worth forging through to get to Capaldi? Are his seasons any good?
    Bach's music is heartless and robotic.
  2. Aidabaida wrote
    I tried watching the 2009 STAR TREK last night. I loved it when I first saw it in 2009, but now... Well, the first hour is entertaining, but the plot is NONSENSICAL. Nero watches the destruction of his planet, gets sent back 25 years, and instead of saving his planet, he decides to destroy the homeplanet of the guy who tried to help?


    Like so many high profile movies of these times Star Trek 2009 suffers from overplotting. Throwing everything but the kitchen sink in there. And giving it to the viewer at such a pace he won't have time to think if any of it made sense. The baddies in film 1 and 3 were cardboard cutouts too.

    That said, I still like the reboot and sequels, but I miss the simplicity, slower pace and heart of the original movies.
    "considering I've seen an enormous debate here about The Amazing Spider-Man and the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it, I feel myself obliged to say: TASTE DIFFERS, DEAL WITH IT" - Thomas G.
  3. Aidabaida wrote
    Is it worth forging through to get to Capaldi? Are his seasons any good?

    I would have to say, "No" and "No".

    There's not really been a consistent improvement in the writing. As with the Matt Smith era, Capaldi's stint at being the Doctor has been ruined by poor writing. Only occasionally has there been any sort of decent writing and we only see occasionally how good a Capaldi Who could have been. This current season does have the odd good episode but overall it's still pretty poor.
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      CommentAuthorAidabaida
    • CommentTimeJun 25th 2017
    The problem is the contrivances. I think the screenwriters have these big moments in mind, and they engineer a plot to "get to those moments" rather than letting the moments come naturally from the plot.
    Bach's music is heartless and robotic.
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeJun 26th 2017
    FalkirkBairn wrote
    This current season does have the odd good episode but overall it's still pretty poor.


    I completelydisagree!

    Not on the previous seasons. mind. Those were poor to abysmal, which is a crying shame as Capaldi is an excellent Doctor incarnation (he's pretty much the only reason I kept watching. At some point I just switched off Matt Smith entirely), but this season has been an absolute highlight (in no small way thanks to Pearl Mackie, who I think is one of the very best companions ever). I am greatly enjoying each and every episode, with last Saturday's 'World Enough and Time' indeed being a huge standout.

    I am a bit worried that they've upped the stakes so much now that only a ridicuous Deus Ex Machinea can save the day, which would be a shame. But we'll see. I am looking very much forward to next week!
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeJun 26th 2017
    Aidabaida wrote
    The problem is the contrivances. I think the screenwriters have these big moments in mind, and they engineer a plot to "get to those moments" rather than letting the moments come naturally from the plot.


    That's been a problem ever since the very first season of the reboot.
    I remember being terribly disappointed with the outcome of the whole 'Bad Wolf' storyline in the very first reboot season. And while there have been really excellent episodes throughout the entirety of the reboot, that issue has always been a pervading one.

    I don't mind back-doctoring (heh!) from Big Moments per se, but it would be good if it weren't so obvious all the time!
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
  4. Martijn I believe aidabaida was responding to a post I made about star trek 2009 because I quoted a post of his. But I guess it's relevant for your post too. smile
    "considering I've seen an enormous debate here about The Amazing Spider-Man and the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it, I feel myself obliged to say: TASTE DIFFERS, DEAL WITH IT" - Thomas G.
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeJun 26th 2017
    Ha! I think you're right! biggrin
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
  5. Martijn wrote
    FalkirkBairn wrote
    This current season does have the odd good episode but overall it's still pretty poor.


    I completelydisagree!

    Not on the previous seasons. mind. Those were poor to abysmal, which is a crying shame as Capaldi is an excellent Doctor incarnation (he's pretty much the only reason I kept watching. At some point I just switched off Matt Smith entirely), but this season has been an absolute highlight (in no small way thanks to Pearl Mackie, who I think is one of the very best companions ever). I am greatly enjoying each and every episode, with last Saturday's 'World Enough and Time' indeed being a huge standout.

    I am a bit worried that they've upped the stakes so much now that only a ridicuous Deus Ex Machinea can save the day, which would be a shame. But we'll see. I am looking very much forward to next week!

    The trailer for next week's episode does look a bit rushed and action-packed and I am hoping that, because of the refreshingly slow pace of last week's they do not have to rush things to pack in what they need to do in the story. I am interested to see how they manage to end up 'outside' (from what I remember of the trailer). Have they moved off the ship somehow, or is there an 'environmental space' on board that simulates the outside?
    The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeJun 26th 2017 edited
    I quite intentionally avoided the trailer as I find from previous experience they tend to give away quite major plot points.

    So thanks for that...


    wink

    Yeah, at a guess I would say that's [spoiler]still in the ship (I'm quite sure at the very beginning of last Saturday's episode, we peeked a look through the windows of the ship and there was at least one nature landscape there!)[/spoiler]

    FalkirkBairn wrote
    I am hoping that, because of the refreshingly slow pace of last week's they do not have to rush things to pack in what they need to do in the story.


    Going on previous experience, this is exactly my concern. sad
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
  6. Sorry about the spoiler Martijn. [spoiler]I'd missed the view of the nature landscape through one of the windows - by the time I realised that we were being shown views inside the craft I was at the last window.[/spoiler]
    The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeJun 26th 2017
    Heh. No worries, Alan. smile
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorAidabaida
    • CommentTimeJun 26th 2017 edited
    My comment about the contrivances was about the 2009 Star Trek, not Doctor Who smile

    Anyway, I think I might try getting through Capaldi's seasons, Martjin has good points, and DreamTheater, trying to convince me NOT to, said "As with the Matt Smith era, Capaldi's stint at being the Doctor has been ruined by poor writing," Aside for a few episodes, I adored the Matt Smith seasons, so we might have a different definition of "poor writing."

    I checked, and Steven Moffat stayed on, and (I know this is unpopular statement), but Steven Moffat is one my favorite screenwriters. Now, that doesn't mean everything he writes is good, but it does mean that when he IS good (Sherlock, "The Big Bang", "A Good Man Goes to War"), there's very little better.

    So....yeah! I think I'll try it out.
    Bach's music is heartless and robotic.
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeJun 26th 2017
    I've tried and tried and tried, but never been able to appreciate Moffat. Russell T. Davies was my thing. But I've been able to like WHO despite of him, especially in Capaldi's superior interpretation.
    I am extremely serious.
  7. I liked Moffat's episodes under Davies' tenure so, so much more than I have his work as showrunner. It's weird. The series format just doesn't suit him IMO.
  8. Edmund Meinerts wrote
    I liked Moffat's episodes under Davies' tenure...

    I remember being in the same position. I was so looking forward to Moffat taking over the reins from Russell T. Davies on the basis of Moffat's penned episodes.

    But, most of what Moffat touches in an expanded format - such as series - just seems to fall apart.
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      CommentAuthorAidabaida
    • CommentTimeJun 26th 2017 edited
    Yeah, it'll be a matter of taste. Part of what I personally love about Moffat is that he has absolutely zero cynicism. His characters wholeheartedly embrace the beauty of the universe, and their emotions are genuine. He has a way of tying together lots of threads in a clever way. And his pacing: He'll stop at moments you wouldn't expect. Most of all, I just really appreciate that Moffat's writing always feels intensely personal, like he really, truly cares about his characters and enjoys writing about them.
    Bach's music is heartless and robotic.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJun 27th 2017 edited
    DreamTheater wrote

    That said, I still like the reboot and sequels, but I miss the simplicity, slower pace and heart of the original movies.


    Agree with everything you said. There's a speed to these that smacks of capturing a "youth" audience who'll lose attention if the ante isn't upped. It isn't in keeping with the TV series or earlier Star Trek films. The box office says differently and we're in a minority who'd like a bit more substance and thought provoking sci-fi.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  9. There have been statements that Abrams essentially "Starwarsified" Star Trek. The slower pace, especially of The Motion Picture (saw the director's cut and loved it) is not just a change in pace between the decades. I think the original Star Trek idea is trying to bring a more cerebral, harder SF, to mainstream audiences. The heart is there (maybe except TMP, but there the coldness comes from a somewhat metaphysical approach to its subject matter), but it's actually about discussing some issues.

    Abrams doesn't really explore that. He has a good understanding of storytelling and, especially, The Hero's Journey (I think of this generation of filmmakers he's the best at it), but the depths aren't there. Still, a much better film than the maligned Nemesis.
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      CommentAuthorAidabaida
    • CommentTimeJun 27th 2017
    He has a good understanding of storytelling and, especially, The Hero's Journey


    This might sound confusing, but I think it's less that he has a good understanding of storytelling, but more he thinks he has a good understanding of storytelling. There's a ton of flaws, mistakes, and holes in his movies, but they seem to be brushed over with this kind of swaggering self-confidence. I've found it makes for an entertaining first viewing and dull second viewings.

    Yeah, that probably made no sense.
    Bach's music is heartless and robotic.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJun 27th 2017
    Aidabaida wrote
    Life

    I liked it. Rather intense, creepy movie; my enjoyment was aided by my low expectations. smile


    loved it too, intense!
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
  10. PawelStroinski wrote
    There have been statements that Abrams essentially "Starwarsified" Star Trek. The slower pace, especially of The Motion Picture (saw the director's cut and loved it) is not just a change in pace between the decades. I think the original Star Trek idea is trying to bring a more cerebral, harder SF, to mainstream audiences. The heart is there (maybe except TMP, but there the coldness comes from a somewhat metaphysical approach to its subject matter), but it's actually about discussing some issues.



    I don't know. TMP has quite a few delightful character moments that do warm my heart with each viewing. Shatner + Nimoy + Kelley are hard to beat in every one of the 6 films. The first one is not as cold a film as you say, IMO.

    Too bad the DC is not available on bluray. I prefer that version too.
    "considering I've seen an enormous debate here about The Amazing Spider-Man and the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it, I feel myself obliged to say: TASTE DIFFERS, DEAL WITH IT" - Thomas G.
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeJun 27th 2017
    Hmmmm, I think none of the Star Trek films (with the exception of The Motion Picture) is really particularly cerebral. In fact, from Khan onwards they seem to be taking more lessons from Return Of The Jedi than anything else. At the very least they never even come close to the powerfully high cerebral tone of much of any of the TV series.

    That said, it's no secret that Abrams prefered the Star Wars way of approaching stories and visual spectacle (he literally said so in an interview on the first Star Trek reboot, although I can't for the life of me remember where I read that).
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorAidabaida
    • CommentTimeJun 29th 2017
    The Lego Movie

    Who would've expected a movie about legos to deliver a commentary on commercialism, copyright, communism, capitalism, individuality vs. conformity, a bizarre dystopia, and existential musings on the separation between the real world and the imaginary world, in addition to a laugh a minute, ridiculous action scenes, and the best voice work in years.

    In his time, Shakespeare was thought of as a low-brow, exploitative blockbuster writer who shamelessly cribbed plots and stuffed his plays with crude jokes. Yet with 400 years of distance, we see he offers not only pulp entertainment, but social commentary on his age. In 2400, I expect that "The Lego Movie" will be studied with the same zeal we give Shakespeare.
    Bach's music is heartless and robotic.
  11. I hope so! I love the LEGO movie. Phil Lord and Chris Miller are brilliant. I was really sorry to hear that they were off the Han Solo movie.
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeJun 29th 2017
    christopher wrote
    I was really sorry to hear that they were off the Han Solo movie.


    NOT as SUCH...
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeJun 29th 2017 edited
    I hated THE LEGO MOVIE (I got the satire and pop cultural references alright, but I have no connection to Lego and allergic to noisefests of this kind [unless it's someone like Michael Bay or Zack Snyder]...I turned it off after about 45 minutes), but I absolutely adore Lord & Miller's TV series THE LAST MAN ON EARTH. So they've clearly got something.
    I am extremely serious.