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    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeSep 22nd 2014 edited
    bunny


    # 39 ANGELA MORLEY - WATERSHIP DOWN


    Opening with a wonderful pastoral piece by Malcolm Williamson the rest of the score is Angela Morley, the only "female" composer in my list of top 50. I've loved this score ever since I first heard it, it is so evocative and so English and yet it doesn't overly conjure composers you'd expect like Vaughan Williams, Holst or Delius, the score is fantastically orchestrated as you'd expect from someone who has worked with the likes of John Williams, if I have any complaints they are minor such as the Ralph Richardson voiceover on The Prologue and the film version of Art Garfunkel's song not being included but none of this stops the album being a joy from beginning to end. The film is probably my all time favourite animated children's film.

    I just looked up the CD on Amazon, the asking prices for this album are extortionate!
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeSep 22nd 2014
    I absolutely ADORE "Bright Eyes" -- the highlight of the disc, IMO (and a song that has become a karaoke favourite of mine) -- but there's some pretty good stuff in the score proper too. I've actually never seen the film, however. I understand it's somewhat of a cult/childhood favourite for a lot of people.
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  1. Sadly they are. Sadly because

    I WANT THAT ALBUM !!!
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeSep 22nd 2014 edited
    My pick:

    39. ALIENS (James Horner)

    Untill AVATAR, I considered this Horner's magnum opus. Strange, because I'm not usually a fan of horror-centric scores. Maybe this is one of those rare cases where I feel extra close to the music because of the film, which is one of my alltime favourites that I've seen dozens upon dozens of times. So I'm more forgiving of stingers and such.

    I've had the original Varese CD since the very beginning of my film music interest, and it has received a lot of workouts over the years. I took a plunge on the expanded edition some years ago, but as expected it really robbed me of the listening experience, so I sold it. In its original programming, it segues effortlessly from the elegant mysterioso bits (like the Khachtaturian-inspired opening titles) to the eerie, dark corridors of the base to full-on militaristic action. But balanced beautifully, as opposed to the expansion. I don't play it as often as I used to, but it belongs on this list regardless.
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeSep 22nd 2014
    Timmer wrote
    Angela Morley, the only "female" composer in my list of top 50.


    I'm confused by the use of quotation marks.
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeSep 22nd 2014
    Steven wrote
    Timmer wrote
    Angela Morley, the only "female" composer in my list of top 50.


    I'm confused by the use of quotation marks.


    She used to be a man.
    I am extremely serious.
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeSep 22nd 2014
    I am now less confused by the use of quotation marks.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeSep 22nd 2014
    Captain Future wrote
    Sadly they are. Sadly because

    I WANT THAT ALBUM !!!


    I know! £399 ffs! Someone is having a giraffe. angry


    By the way, Cobweb, I guess this choice could count as an LP choice!? I only have the album on CD as a CDR.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeSep 22nd 2014
    Thor wrote
    I absolutely ADORE "Bright Eyes" -- the highlight of the disc, IMO (and a song that has become a karaoke favourite of mine) -- but there's some pretty good stuff in the score proper too. I've actually never seen the film, however. I understand it's somewhat of a cult/childhood favourite for a lot of people.


    I first saw the film as an adult. It's worth your time Thor, though a children's favourite ( it is regularly shown on TV during holidays ) it isn't the syrupy doe-eyed stuff you'd get from the likes of Disney, the film has a harsh edge and is even bloodily violent. You'd also get to hear the film version of Bright Eyes ( still sung by Art Garfunkel in the film ).
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorCobweb
    • CommentTimeSep 22nd 2014
    Timmer wrote
    By the way, Cobweb, I guess this choice could count as an LP choice!? I only have the album on CD as a CDR.


    So your Top 50 includes CDRs. smile

    I have the Columbia LP of WATERSHIP DOWN and I like it very much, but it's not in my top faves.

    Angela Morley was previously Walter (Wally) Stott. I've discovered some of Stott's late-'60s/early-'70s scores long after WATERSHIP DOWN and I like some of them ever better (such as WHEN 8 BELLS TOLL).
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeSep 22nd 2014 edited
    My list so far from 1 - 42

    CONAN THE BARBARIAN - Poledouris
    THE LION IN WINTER - Barry
    KRULL - Horner
    THE BIG COUNTRY - Moross
    E.T. THE EXTRATERRESTRIAL - Williams
    STAR TREK THE MOTION PICTURE - Goldsmith
    ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE - Barry
    THE FINAL CONFLICT - Goldsmith
    THE GOOD THE BAD AND THE UGLY - Morricone
    LITTLE BUDDHA - Sakamoto
    THE LAST VALLEY - Barry
    SCOTT OF THE ANTARCTIC - Vaughan Williams
    THE THOMAS CROWN AFFAIR - Legrand
    THE THING - Morricone
    WALKING WITH DINOSAURS / WALKING WITH BEASTS - Bartlett
    STAR WARS - Williams
    CHINATOWN - Goldsmith
    HEAVY METAL - Bernstein
    BULLIT - Schifrin
    BRAM STOKER'S DRACULA - Kilar
    STAR TREK III: THE SEARCH FOR SPOCK - Horner
    ONE MILLION YEARS B.C. - Nascimbene
    'BOOM!' - Barry
    STARSHIP TROOPERS - Poledouris
    RED PLANET - Revell
    QUEST FOR FIRE - Sarde
    FLASH GORDON - Queen / Blake
    THE ROBE - A. Newman
    THE BOURNE SUPREMACY - Powell
    READY WHEN YOU ARE J.B. - Barry
    THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS - Barry
    ROCKY - Conti
    TRUE CONFESSIONS - Delerue
    LIFEFORCE - Mancini
    JANE EYRE - Williams
    THE FILM MUSIC OF - C. Gunning
    SOMMERSBY - Elfman
    THE DARK CRYSTAL - Jones
    WATERSHIP DOWN - Morley
    THE FURY - Williams
    TOTAL RECALL - Goldsmith
    KING KONG - Barry
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeSep 22nd 2014 edited
    Cobweb wrote
    Timmer wrote
    By the way, Cobweb, I guess this choice could count as an LP choice!? I only have the album on CD as a CDR.


    So your Top 50 includes CDRs. smile

    I have the Columbia LP of WATERSHIP DOWN and I like it very much, but it's not in my top faves.

    Angela Morley was previously Walter (Wally) Stott. I've discovered some of Stott's late-'60s/early-'70s scores long after WATERSHIP DOWN and I like some of them ever better (such as WHEN 8 BELLS TOLL).


    We are in some agreement. I love his* score to WHEN 8 BELLS TOLL and would buy a release instantly.

    And yes, you're right. No CDR's. That makes it my first LP only choice. wink

    *you still following Steven? spin
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  2. Mike Batt, btw, has later written a very nice score for the TV series Watership Down. He re-used "Bright Eyes" for that project.
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeSep 22nd 2014
    Captain Future wrote
    Mike Batt, btw, has later written a very nice score for the TV series Watership Down. He re-used "Bright Eyes" for that project.


    Yes indeedy! I have that and like it!
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeSep 22nd 2014
    Timmer wrote

    *you still following Steven? spin


    The only thing I can be sure of is Bregt is a woman.
  3. Nice choices gentlemen!

    No 39:

    Ice Station Zebra (1968) by Michel Legrand

    I love that film. The cast, Rock Hudson above all, the cinematography, the special effects, the production design, especially the fake snow and ice. smile

    The noble main theme ranks with the finest things Legrand has ever written. The whole score is a first rate thriller score, up there with Barry's Bond scores. (Sorry, Tim.)

    FSM released the C&C score on CD. It is the only version that I am familiar with. I was thrilled when I found that CD years ago. Thank you, Lukas Kendall!

    Volker
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeSep 22nd 2014
    Captain Future wrote
    Nice choices gentlemen!

    No 39:

    Ice Station Zebra (1968) by Michel Legrand

    The noble main theme ranks with the finest things Legrand has ever written. The whole score is a first rate thriller score, up there with Barry's Bond scores. (Sorry, Tim.)


    What makes you think I'd have a problem with that? This is one of my favourite Legrand scores and FSM's release filled in a lot of great missing cues for me. One of a few occasions where I'm glad that Jerry Goldsmith, who was slated to score, didn't!
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeSep 22nd 2014
    It's a fine score, especially in context. Love the "ice cube" effects as we see the sub under the ice.
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  4. Timmer wrote
    Captain Future wrote
    Nice choices gentlemen!

    No 39:

    Ice Station Zebra (1968) by Michel Legrand

    The noble main theme ranks with the finest things Legrand has ever written. The whole score is a first rate thriller score, up there with Barry's Bond scores. (Sorry, Tim.)


    What makes you think I'd have a problem with that? This is one of my favourite Legrand scores and FSM's release filled in a lot of great missing cues for me. One of a few occasions where I'm glad that Jerry Goldsmith, who was slated to score, didn't!


    beer
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.
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      CommentAuthorCobweb
    • CommentTimeSep 26th 2014
    ICE STATION ZEBRA is one of my favorite Michel Legrand soundtracks, too, but Legrand is one of those many composers who didn't climb onto my Top 50.
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      CommentAuthorCobweb
    • CommentTimeSep 26th 2014
    There's no hurry posting my next entry because Timmer already claimed it as a favorite higher up on his list than on mine ...

    #39: LA GUERRE DU FEU (1981) by Philippe Sarde, on Universal Jazz France CD (2008).

    Nothing much to say on this one since it was covered before, but let me comment on the uniqueness.

    QUEST FOR FIRE was a co-production involving more than several countries, but it is considered overall as a French film (even though writer Anthony Burgess created an imaginary language specifically for this project).
    Director and composer are French, but the conductor, most of the performers and the recording location were British.
    I don't think there has been any other score before or after Sarde's GUERRE which called upon such large ensembles: 2 organized orchestras (the London Symphony and London Philharmonic), the Ambrosian Singers and Les Percussions de Strabourg!
    Conductor Peter Knight also wrote music for the 1968 CURSE OF THE CRIMSON ALTAR.

    Sarde's QUEST is unique in comparison to this composer's output elsewhere. I can forgive portions of Sarde's score for evoking late-'70s tonal Krzysztof Penderecki because this is what director Annaud wanted.
    Annaud actually invited Penderecki to score QUEST but the composer's schedule was already engaged up to around 1988! cheesy
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeSep 26th 2014
    I didn't know that Penderecki was nearly involved.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorCobweb
    • CommentTimeSep 26th 2014 edited
    Timmer wrote
    I didn't know that Penderecki was nearly involved.


    Yeah - apparently Annaud was listening to albums of Penderecki during '79 and '80 and had even created some scenes for QUEST based on that music.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeSep 26th 2014
    That would have been very interesting.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeSep 30th 2014 edited
    DePalma...


    # 40 THE FURY - JOHN WILLIAMS


    An album I bought before I saw the film on its release simply because it was John Williams and I never regretted it. This is an awesome score with Williams channelling Bernard Herrmann, I have no doubt that Brian DePalma would have had Herrmann scoring this had Herrmann lived long enough, as it is I believe John Williams was "forced" on DePalma who's first choice of composer had been Pino Donaggio. It's been written down that DePalma wasn't pleased with Williams score, I personally think he's very wrong as it fits the dark mood and pace of the film perfectly.

    I choose the album rerecording over the original tracks, it makes for a perfect listen.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeSep 30th 2014
    50? uhm
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeSep 30th 2014
    Fantastic, stupendous score! It's probably the most Herrmann Williams has ever been, except maybe the main titles from WITCHES OF EASTWICK. Like you, I have the 2CD set with the original tracks, but I never play them. Always the superb soundtrack rerecording.
    I am extremely serious.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeSep 30th 2014
    Martijn wrote
    50? uhm


    shame

    it's steven's fault, well, it isn't really his fault but I gotta blame somebody...
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeSep 30th 2014
    So voodoo dolls do work...
  5. The Fury is brilliant! Film and score are.

    No. 40

    Conan the Barabrian (1982) by Basil Poledouris

    For all the reasons Tim has given at the outset of this project.

    I prefer the Prometheus re-recording. I cannot see any flaw in this, performance, recording, mixig, whatsoever.

    Of course the full release of the original score is an awsome story in itself, but even so.

    Volker
    Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.