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JERRY GOLDSMITH
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- CommentAuthorEdmund Meinerts
- CommentTimeJul 16th 2014
Southall wrote
Edmund Meinerts wrote
No, but Mulan is in there, which The Mummy is a better score than. FACT!
UNFACT!
REFACT! -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJul 16th 2014 edited
Hmmmm? Neither is in my top 25 but...
I like MULAN but I also like THE MUMMY........but which one is better?
Where's Harry Hill when you need him?*
an in-joke that those outside the UK are unlikely to get.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentTimeJul 16th 2014
Top 10 Goldsmith scores, in my opinion; in no special order:
1. Capricorn One
2. First Blood
3. Rudy
4. The Wind and the Lion
5. The Planet of the [Damn Dirty] Apes
6. The Secret of NIMH
7. Basic Instinct
8. [spoiler]Monkies always look.[/spoiler]
9. Star Trek: First Contact
10. Star Trek V: The Final FrontierThe views and opinions of Ford A. Thaxton are his own and do not necessarily reflect the ones of ANYONE else. -
- CommentTimeJul 16th 2014
I'll get my . -
- CommentTimeJul 17th 2014
...Damn you Justin! -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeSep 21st 2014
I expect many of you have seen this before but for those that haven't...
JERRY GOLDSMITH INTERVIEW
Thanks to an FSM thread for reminding me this existed.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentTimeSep 21st 2014
Thanks for sharing, Timmer. I'm going to set aside some time to watch the whole thing. I could listen to Goldsmith and Williams talk film music for hours and hours.
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentTimeSep 21st 2014 edited
Yeah, I saw that way back in 2008 when it was first posted, and I spent another two hours earlier today revisiting it again.
It's a great interview, although it's quite amusing to see a rather grumpy Goldsmith try desperately to remember the details of the past, and how he continually dismisses any attempt of intellectualization with "I just thought of it, and it came out that way"-type responses. Made me chuckle time and again. He was never very good at speaking about his work.
One of my wet dreams is seeing a similar interview being done with Williams, since I kinda obsess over his period in television (an interest I can share with very few others).I am extremely serious. -
- CommentTimeSep 21st 2014
You seriously think Williams would say anything other than "I just thought of it"!? There surely isn't a man in history whose absolute dullness in interviews is so completely at odds with his extraordinary talent. -
- CommentTimeSep 21st 2014
I think that's a wee bit harsh, though I can understand where you're coming from (personally I prefer Williams to Grumpy Goldsmith). -
- CommentTimeSep 21st 2014
I really wish both of them had been / would be a bit more open about it. At least Goldsmith tended to bring a few anecdotes out, even if he rarely said much of interest about the music. -
- CommentTimeSep 21st 2014
Wow, I disagree. Williams is about ten million times more eloquent than Goldsmith and able to actually communicate something worthwhile about his musical approach to things. Not to mention more forward and polite and genereally agreeable.
However, I do dread his inability to remember details about his ancient past. He's been -- deliberately or indeliberately -- avoiding that in the interviews I've read and seen.I am extremely serious. -
- CommentTimeSep 21st 2014
Southall wrote
You seriously think Williams would say anything other than "I just thought of it"!? There surely isn't a man in history whose absolute dullness in interviews is so completely at odds with his extraordinary talent.
Fut The Whuck?!?!? For real? Sure, Williams might not jump out of his seat and do the cucaracha dance while talking about a specific score but I love the way he talks about his music and the process of creating it.
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentTimeSep 21st 2014
I must have watched the wrong interviews! I've only ever heard him say "it just came to me" or "the scene was darker so the music had to be darker" etc. Would certainly be interested in seeing something more in depth than that. -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeSep 21st 2014
Southall wrote
I must have watched the wrong interviews! I've only ever heard him say "it just came to me" or "the scene was darker so the music had to be darker" etc. Would certainly be interested in seeing something more in depth than that.
I agree. I find Williams dull in interviews. I guess he's just a private person and doesn't like to open up much about his life? If that's the case then fair enough.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeSep 21st 2014
Which composers are great value in interviews?On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentTimeSep 21st 2014
Timmer wrote
Which composers are great value in interviews?
Patrick Doyle is fun to talk to. As are Zimmer, Rona, Fenton, Goldenthal (if you're smart enough). Just a few that spring to mind.www.synchrotones.wordpress.com | www.synchrotones.co.uk | @Synchrotones | facebook | soundcloud | youtube -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeSep 21st 2014
I remember a very early interview with Desplat back on Soundtrack.net when Dan Goldwasser was still doing them. He came off to me just like Zimmer, with some one-liners and so on.http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentAuthorMWippel
- CommentTimeSep 21st 2014
My Top 10 Goldsmith Scores
1. Papillon
Star Trek - The Motion Picture
The Final Conflict
Legend
Under Fire
Lonely are the Brave
Masada
Wild Rovers
The Secret of Nimh
QB VII -
- CommentTimeSep 21st 2014
Hi there M. !
Legend is still a big black hole for me. That goes as well for the Goldsmith as for the Tangerine Dream score.
Volker
(PS: Why don't you introduce yourself to the community. Just go to the sticky new members thread. )Bach's music is vibrant and inspired. -
- CommentTimeSep 21st 2014
Timmer wrote
Which composers are great value in interviews?
Zimmer, only.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorMWippel
- CommentTimeSep 21st 2014
Captain Future wrote
Hi there M. !
Legend is still a big black hole for me. That goes as well for the Goldsmith as for the Tangerine Dream score.
Volker
(PS: Why don't you introduce yourself to the community. Just go to the sticky new members thread. )
Done
Legend has the best love theme ever!!! At least to me -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeSep 21st 2014
Demetris wrote
Timmer wrote
Which composers are great value in interviews?
Zimmer, only.
Unless you are ironic, that's far from the truth
Brian Tyler can be a lot of fun unless he has to talk specific score. Goldsmith... he wrote very instinctively he even said that, actually, if he starts thinking, that's very bad.http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentTimeSep 21st 2014
Demetris wrote
Timmer wrote
Which composers are great value in interviews?
Zimmer, only.
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- CommentTimeSep 21st 2014
PawelStroinski wrote
Demetris wrote
Timmer wrote
Which composers are great value in interviews?
Zimmer, only.
Unless you are ironic, that's far from the truth
Brian Tyler can be a lot of fun unless he has to talk specific score. Goldsmith... he wrote very instinctively he even said that, actually, if he starts thinking, that's very bad.
Zimmer and Tyler then.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentTimeSep 21st 2014
Southall wrote
I must have watched the wrong interviews! I've only ever heard him say "it just came to me" or "the scene was darker so the music had to be darker" etc. Would certainly be interested in seeing something more in depth than that.
When called on it, Williams can be very specific and interesting instead of the broad, polite strokes. Plenty of examples, but I recall the CD-ROM interviews from the NIXON soundtrack. Or that 1-hour session at USC hosted by Jon Burlingame. This is where he really becomes a "professor", in many ways, and if you like that -- like I do -- it's brilliant. I also have tons of text interviews in the same style.
But as Erik says, if your idea of an interesting interview is tons of comic oneliners and whatnot, then no, he's probably not for you.
Goldenthal is great, in a sort of 'stream-of-consciousness' style. Elfman is always fun and self-deprecating. Same with Zimmer. Goldsmith is useless for the most part, although I did enjoy the nuts-and-bolts reminiscing of that interview above. And I giggle when I see his grumpiness take over. He's like Herrmann that way. More intriguing for their terse tone than what they're actually saying. Horner isn't that good in interpreting his approach either, although he's surprisingly candid in his description of colleagues. He has a kind of charming arrogance and softspoken humility at the same time.
I have to echo what Syncrotones said above, though. Of the composers I've spoken to, Doyle is most "likeable" and humourous.I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeSep 21st 2014
Demetris wrote
PawelStroinski wrote
Demetris wrote
Timmer wrote
Which composers are great value in interviews?
Zimmer, only.
Unless you are ironic, that's far from the truth
Brian Tyler can be a lot of fun unless he has to talk specific score. Goldsmith... he wrote very instinctively he even said that, actually, if he starts thinking, that's very bad.
Zimmer and Tyler then.
Really? Both are dull as dishwater.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorEdmund Meinerts
- CommentTimeSep 21st 2014
Tyler especially - seems like a nice guy, sure, but he rarely if ever has anything actually worthwhile to say about his (or anyone else's) music. Zimmer's good for the occasional hilarity of his "revolutionary" claims. -
- CommentAuthorEdmund Meinerts
- CommentTimeSep 21st 2014
But I think we can all agree that Leonard Rosenman gave the best interviews. -
- CommentTimeSep 21st 2014
Edmund Meinerts wrote
But I think we can all agree that Leonard Rosenman gave the best interviews.
Well, he was certainly high on himself.I am extremely serious.