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- CommentAuthorKevinSmith
- CommentTimeJul 26th 2008
I thought I would add the group who composed the music for David Lynch's Dune in 1984.Revenge is sweet... Revenge is best served cold... Revenge is ice cream. -
- CommentAuthortjguitar
- CommentTimeJul 26th 2008
what do you think of Dune? -
- CommentAuthorKevinSmith
- CommentTimeJul 27th 2008
I thought it was weirdly great. I made a post on MMUK about it. Unforunately it's not as great as on CD, when I'm listening to it driving to school.Revenge is sweet... Revenge is best served cold... Revenge is ice cream. -
- CommentAuthortjguitar
- CommentTimeJul 27th 2008
that thread says almost nothing about the score and has 3 pagse of off topic -
- CommentAuthorKevinSmith
- CommentTimeJul 27th 2008
It has grown on me the past while, so much so that it's in top ten (maybe five) favourite scores. Stop laughing, I can hear it. Toto, the Vienna Symphony Orchestra, a sizable choir, and electronics, who would have thought? This is definitely one of the best incorporations of guitars and orchestra that I have ever heard, something that Trevor Rabin is still working on. The electronics are accenting the orchestra, not replacing the orchestra (like cough cough Media Ventures).
I know the score has aged (obviously), mostly because a rock band did it, but it doesn't seem that aged. The electric guitars add to the score in power (no pun intended) more than they take away in agefulness.
The main theme doesn't change in variation at all, aka John Barry like, it's good so it can get away with it. The themes for the movie (kinda like a sci-fi Lawerence of Arabia), Paul (dark/disonant), Leto (noble), Fremen (mysterious), the love theme (err love like?), the dream/mourning theme (repeating choral piece) etc are quite simplistic and effective as you might expect from a rock band (which musical help from Marty Paich, who taught James Newton Howard).
Although I mention the themes, the score spends most of its time under the surface. The action cues are very decent, with action motifs developed as the cues progress. The last minute of "Big Battle" is absolutely sublime.
I agree with Christian Clemm about Eno's "Prophecy theme", it works great in the film, but when you listen to it on the album, you realize that, 2 minutes in, nothing is happening.
Granted, there are some unlistenable parts, but they are few fortunately. You can also hear some of the influences for the score like Shostokovich's Symphony #11. But that was intended by David Lynch. The end credits, is quite originally Toto, with them doing what Toto does, soft rock and such with orchestral and choral backing.Revenge is sweet... Revenge is best served cold... Revenge is ice cream. -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJul 27th 2008
IMO it's the best DUNE score.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthortjguitar
- CommentTimeJul 27th 2008
Is it worth the $20, though? -
- CommentTimeJul 27th 2008
I personally can't stand it and i can't help myself giggling a bit when i see people calling it the best dune scoreLove Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentTimeJul 27th 2008
James Newton Howard did some totally gorgeous orchestral arrangements on Toto IV. The horn lines on "I Won't Hold You Back" are just insanely beautiful.
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- CommentTimeJul 27th 2008
Wonderful score. Toto rocks!I am extremely serious. -
- CommentTimeJul 28th 2008
Thor wrote
Wonderful score. Toto rocks!
Always been a fan of this score. A classic! -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJul 28th 2008
Christodoulides wrote
I personally can't stand it and i can't help myself giggling a bit when i see people calling it the best dune score
As you can see, I'm not alone in loving this one. Far more varied and nowhere near as generic as Revel's and Tyler's.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentTimeJul 28th 2008
Timmer wrote
Christodoulides wrote
I personally can't stand it and i can't help myself giggling a bit when i see people calling it the best dune score
As you can see, I'm not alone in loving this one. Far more varied and nowhere near as generic as Revel's and Tyler's.
Revel's isn't good indeed but Tyler's, albeit the originality issues, is ages beyond imo mateLove Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeJul 28th 2008
He's right Tim! Mancini's LIFEFORCE, Ravel's Bolero and ethnic percussion are all much older than Toto's score! Only that familiar Rabin chord progression and the faux Lisa Gerrard vocals give away that Tyler wrote his score after Toto.A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentTimeJul 28th 2008
I didn't realise that the Lone Ranger's horse had written a score for Dune. Probably better than Graeme Revell's. -
- CommentAuthorKing Rao
- CommentTimeJul 28th 2008
Southall wrote
I didn't realise that the Lone Ranger's horse had written a score for Dune. Probably better than Graeme Revell's.
The Lone Ranger's horse was named "Silver". Perhaps you're thinking of his Indian sidekick "ToNto". If you were going to make a joke you could easily have gone with a Wizard of Oz reference... -
- CommentTimeJul 28th 2008
God damn it. And I thought I was being so clever. -
- CommentTimeJul 28th 2008 edited
TOTO is a famous Japanese manufacturer of toilets...
Actually I know nothing about the rock band TOTO, except that I heard John William's son (who sang Adult Simba's part on The Lion King songs) was involved in it...?Labels are for cans, not people. - Anthony Rapp -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeJul 28th 2008
Yes, Joseph Williams was in Toto, I think.http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJul 28th 2008
franz_conrad wrote
He's right Tim! Mancini's LIFEFORCE, Ravel's Bolero and ethnic percussion are all much older than Toto's score! Only that familiar Rabin chord progression and the faux Lisa Gerrard vocals give away that Tyler wrote his score after Toto.
LOLOn Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorKevinSmith
- CommentTimeSep 20th 2008
Southall wrote
God damn it. And I thought I was being so clever.
Swing and a miss, as usual for Mr. Southall.
But anyway, the battle music in Dune is a bit well... underwhelming.Revenge is sweet... Revenge is best served cold... Revenge is ice cream. -
- CommentTimeSep 20th 2008
Dune is great and TOTO ROCKS!!!!! one of my favorite bands.Goldsmith Rules!! -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeSep 20th 2008
KevinSmith wrote
Southall wrote
God damn it. And I thought I was being so clever.
Swing and a miss, as usual for Mr. Southall.
But anyway, the battle music in Dune is a bit well... underwhelming.
There's a lot more to scoring than just "battle" music. Toto's Dune is great, the mystic elements are scored perfctly.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorKevinSmith
- CommentTimeSep 20th 2008
Yes I know that, but I'm just saying that the battle cues are a bit underwhelming.
You're shooting at the wrong person, fool!Revenge is sweet... Revenge is best served cold... Revenge is ice cream. -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeSep 20th 2008
KevinSmith wrote
Yes I know that, but I'm just saying that the battle cues are a bit underwhelming.
You're shooting at the wrong person, fool!
Less of the "fool" thankyou.
Point taken, it's not a CD I would put on for battle music.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentTimeSep 20th 2008
KevinSmith wrote
fool!
A bit more Silent Bob would not go amiss here...'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeSep 20th 2008
http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeSep 20th 2008 edited
Martijn wrote
KevinSmith wrote
fool!
A bit more Silent Bob would not go amiss here...On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentTimeSep 21st 2008 edited
Southall wrote
God damn it. .
Could we please watch the GD language , Thanks.Goldsmith Rules!! -
- CommentAuthortjguitar
- CommentTimeSep 21st 2008