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- discussion topic Now Playing XLVII
- Comment [quote][b]Thor wrote[/b] My interest is in the [i]Bourne riff[/i] and its historical significance, Scribe. Feel free to introduce a separate topic on 'ostinato-based music', but then you need to define it more clearly like I did with the Bourne riff earlier. Just use laymen terms if you don't know ...
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Apr 12th 2015
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- discussion topic Now Playing XLVII
- Comment [quote][b]Thor wrote[/b] Well, I'm not really interested in "ostinato as used in modern film music" because -- again -- that's a phrase that's so wide it's devoid of meaning. That's like saying "the use of notes in modern film music". .[/quote] No it isn't, and you know it, ...
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Apr 12th 2015
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- discussion topic Now Playing XLVII
- Comment [quote][b]Thor wrote[/b] [quote][b]Scribe wrote[/b] I am not assigning any causality or influence to KING ARTHUR, merely emphasizing its significance as a signpost along the way. I thought we were talking about the history of ostinato usage [/quote] I don't know about anyone else, but I've ...
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Apr 11th 2015
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- Comment [quote][b]PawelStroinski wrote[/b] I actually think that the Batman ostinati are more after King Arthur than Bourne and I think in some way Da Vinci Code's Chevaliers de Sangreal proves that that was the direction Hans went into.[/quote] 100% agree. At the time this was my favorite new scoring ...
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Apr 11th 2015
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- discussion topic Now Playing XLVII
- Comment [quote][b]Thor wrote[/b] No, I understand what you're saying. I'm just not buying your (or Pawel's) emphasis on this score for anything other than being part of Zimmer's 90's stylings. A strong personal connection was thus the only reasonable explanation I could see for this emphasis. Unless you're ...
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Apr 11th 2015
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- discussion topic Now Playing XLVII
- Comment [quote][b]Thor wrote[/b] It's nice that you have such a strong personal connection to KING ARTHUR, Scribe, but I think you're over-estimating its importance -- both in film music and Zimmer's career. If it had been so important as you suggest, more people would hail it as a reference point. At ...
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Apr 10th 2015
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- discussion topic Now Playing XLVII
- Comment My technical knowledge ends here, but I can say that to my brain, that usage of an ostinato that you posted is a completely separate technique from the one that Powell, Zimmer etc popularized in the early 2000s. I'm not sure how one would define and categorize the different usages. But the ...
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- Written by Scribe
- Added Apr 10th 2015
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- discussion topic Now Playing XLVII
- Comment [quote][b]Thor wrote[/b] [quote][b]Southall wrote[/b] I always wonder if I'm missing the point when people talk about ostinato-based music as if John Powell invented it and got further confused by Pawel's comment about King Arthur (though like I said, maybe he meant something other than what I took ...
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- Added Apr 10th 2015
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- Comment [quote][b]Southall wrote[/b] [quote][b]PawelStroinski wrote[/b] I'd argue that the first score to involve ostinati in action scoring more was actually King Arthur [/quote] An ostinato is essentially a repeated idea, isn't it? With the rest of the cue gradually building over it? Isn't this ...
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Apr 9th 2015
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- discussion topic Now Playing XLVII
- Comment I find myself profoundly bored by it all, with the exception of the two cello-heavy tracks by Knorr. It's like trailer music in being an endless brutal assault on one's auditory senses and emotions, except it's not even as varied as a good trailer music album. I recognize that it's good music but ...
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Apr 9th 2015
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- discussion topic DANNY ELFMAN
- Comment I'm realllllly curious to hear Age of Ultron in the film and try to figure out what the hell is going on with the score, considering that Elfman is now getting full credit along side Tyler on the latest posters and the final trailers. It's a bit worrying as it hints at a creative rift somewhere in ...
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Apr 9th 2015
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- discussion topic Now Playing XLVII
- Comment Actually I thought the analysis from lp and Thor was interesting, my sarcasm was directed specifically at the disagreement about Batman being influennced by either TTRL and Bourne as if it couldn't be both....don't know if that came across at 6 in the mornning ;)
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Apr 8th 2015
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- discussion topic Now Playing XLVII
- Comment Thank you for the astounding insights everyone. Before today I never realized that it was impossible for a musical work to be simultaneously influenced by multiple preceding works at the same time. This changes everything.
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Apr 8th 2015
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- discussion topic DANNY ELFMAN
- Comment Disappointing? More like, re-affirming my feelings about Elfman, to me :)
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- Written by Scribe
- Added Apr 8th 2015
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- discussion topic Now Playing XLVII
- Comment I know. I am backing up your anti-complaining sentiment.
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- Added Apr 7th 2015
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- discussion topic Now Playing XLVII
- Comment [quote][b]Erik Woods wrote[/b] [quote][b]Captain Future wrote[/b] NP: [b]John Carter: A Princess of Mars[/b] (2012) - Michael Giacchino Great music. But those "funny" cue titles really bug me. Volker[/quote] :rolleyes:[/quote] :kiss:
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Apr 6th 2015
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- discussion topic Now Playing XLVII
- Comment Yes, you using Lost-like as a criticism of scores that to my mind did not create even the faintest impression of Lost. But, while I am quite certain this has happened at least once before in recent months, since I cannot remember the specific example(s) of this happening, don't worry about it. I'm ...
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- Added Mar 31st 2015
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- Comment [quote][b]Erik Woods wrote[/b] What were the other times, Matt? -Erik-[/quote] I assure you I have no idea. I just remember it's been a thing.
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 31st 2015
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- discussion topic MICHAEL GIACCHINO
- Comment I didn't even know what thread I was in. I just kept seeing quotes of me and replying to them :dizzy:
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 31st 2015
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- discussion topic Now Playing XLVII
- Comment [quote][b]Erik Woods wrote[/b] You obviously haven't listened to Lost enough times to know what you are talking about. -Erik-[/quote] This would not be the first time you accused a score of sounding like Lost when it literally sounded nothing like Lost unless you're specifically looking for ...
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 30th 2015
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- discussion topic MICHAEL GIACCHINO
- Comment [quote][b]Bregt wrote[/b] But that doesn't matter for your problem (that you had enough of this type of movies). The type of movies you are looking for are out there. :) But I understand what you are saying.[/quote] No, they're not out there. There's a whole class of movie that doesn't exist ...
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 30th 2015
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- discussion topic MICHAEL GIACCHINO
- Comment Certainly. It's only a question of which stories get lots of money to be filmed and which don't...
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- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 30th 2015
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- discussion topic Now Playing XLVII
- Comment He didn't say greatest film music. He said greatest music, period. And that can mean many things to many people.
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- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 29th 2015
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- discussion topic Now Playing XLVII
- Comment Presenting the most generic possible Brian Tyler Cue (TM)... "Fate" from [b]Into the Storm[/b] Wow.
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 29th 2015
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- discussion topic Now Playing XLVII
- Comment [quote][b]PawelStroinski wrote[/b] With the power anthem debate, I'm between Timmer and Thor. I think we should look at the approach historically and see that it was created for a specific type of film which suddenly took over other genres. Something tells me that the whole change towards more ...
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- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 29th 2015
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- discussion topic Now Playing XLVII
- Comment [quote][b]Timmer wrote[/b] Only in Bizarro world. I [i]mostly[/i] detest "power anthems", one of the worst music creations in the entire existence of human kind.[/quote] People with alternate tastes inhabit "Bizarro world" to you? Hmm.
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 29th 2015
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- discussion topic MICHAEL GIACCHINO
- Comment Even so, I will be back in the theater for the new Star Wars trilogy to experience what will in all likelihood be the same story [i]again[/i], only with different actors and minor re-arrangements of the tropes. Because lightsabers and John Williams and Skywalker Sound.
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 29th 2015
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- discussion topic Now Playing XLVII
- Comment [quote][b]Thor wrote[/b] Zimmer's power anthems is about the best music ever created in this world[/quote] This. Very this.
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 28th 2015
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- discussion topic MICHAEL GIACCHINO
- Comment I'm starting to find that whole concept to be deeply, repulsively, exhaustingly boring. Show me stories about believable, multifaceted people in believable, complex situations. Enough of the archetypal demigods and hero's journeys. I've read / heard / seen it way too many times for a new ...
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 28th 2015
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- discussion topic Now Playing ( NON film / game / tv scores ) - Part ~~~~~
- Comment Apologies if this was discussed in the past, I haven't been following this thread, but... Check this out! https://vimeo.com/117248553
- Category General Discussions
- Written by Scribe
- Added Mar 26th 2015
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