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      CommentAuthoromaha
    • CommentTimeOct 22nd 2008 edited
    What are scores that the composer takes the logo music to the opening of a film and morphs it into the score?
    I think it is a fantastic way to start a film.

    The only two I can think of are Alien 3 and Speed 2.

    Any thoughts on composers choosing (or being told) to do this?
  1. Star Wars is the most notable example!

    Alfred Newman was renowned for morphing the same piece (his own, that is) into his scores for 20th Century Fox, where he was the musical boss.
    http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeOct 22nd 2008 edited
    PawelStroinski wrote
    Star Wars is the most notable example!


    No it isn't. The 20th Century Fox Fanfare and CinemaScope Extension plays and then ends. There are a few moments of silence (A Long Time Ago In A Galaxy Far, Far Away) and then Williams' theme splashes in. That's not an example of one piece MORPHING into another

    A perfect example that hasn't been mentioned would be David Newman using the 20th Century Fox Fanfare which segued right into his score for The War of the Roses.

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeOct 22nd 2008 edited
    BTW, are you also looking for examples where the composer begins his score over top of the logo or just the use of the logo theme and then morphing into the composers score?

    Anyway, a couple of other INTERESTING logo treatments include John Ottman including part of the Superman Theme in the Warner Bros. Logo.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jut02bWssh4

    Or John Williams including a segment of his E.T. score in Goldsmith Universal fanfare.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yU10V-qecM

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthoromaha
    • CommentTimeOct 22nd 2008
    Erik Woods wrote
    BTW, are you also looking for examples where the composer begins his score over top of the logo or just the use of the logo theme and then morphing into the composers score?

    Anyway, a couple of other INTERESTING logo treatments include John Ottman including part of the Superman Theme in the Warner Bros. Logo.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jut02bWssh4

    Or John Williams including a segment of his E.T. score in Goldsmith Universal fanfare.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yU10V-qecM

    -Erik-


    I was going for the latter but the other proves interesting as well. Thanks for sharing!
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      CommentAuthorDemonStar
    • CommentTimeOct 22nd 2008
    I love Randy Newman's use of this technique for Toy Story 2! The track is "Zurg's Planet" on the OST.
  2. I'm blanking on the movie name, but in the passed few years there was a Paramount film that opened with the Paramount mountain turining into a real mountain that looked like it and it was dark.
    The views and opinions of Ford A. Thaxton are his own and do not necessarily reflect the ones of ANYONE else.
    • CommentAuthorAnthony
    • CommentTimeOct 22nd 2008
    Mancina does an interesting take on the Fox logo in Speed 2.
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      CommentAuthorMartijn
    • CommentTimeOct 22nd 2008
    justin boggan wrote
    I'm blanking on the movie name, but in the passed few years there was a Paramount film that opened with the Paramount mountain turining into a real mountain that looked like it and it was dark.


    Yeah, something like Snickers? Twix? Raiders?...

    Polanski's The Fearless Vampire Killers has an interesting similar take: the MGM lion morphs into a little demonic vampire.

    Both examples don't include music, though.
    'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeOct 22nd 2008
    Anthony wrote
    Mancina does an interesting take on the Fox logo in Speed 2.


    As already pointed out by Omaha in the opening post.
    http://www.maintitles.net/forum/discuss … ic/#Item_1

    wink

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeOct 22nd 2008 edited
    Wasn't there also a musical segue in WATERWORLD, when the Universal globe "floods over"?
    I am extremely serious.
  3. justin boggan wrote
    I'm blanking on the movie name, but in the passed few years there was a Paramount film that opened with the Paramount mountain turining into a real mountain that looked like it and it was dark.


    wasn't this Dante's Peak?
    waaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh
    • CommentAuthorAnthony
    • CommentTimeOct 22nd 2008 edited
    Erik Woods wrote
    Anthony wrote
    Mancina does an interesting take on the Fox logo in Speed 2.


    As already pointed out by Omaha in the opening post.
    http://www.maintitles.net/forum/discuss … ic/#Item_1

    wink

    -Erik-


    Quiet! Leave the poor blind man alone.
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      CommentAuthorRalph Kruhm
    • CommentTimeOct 22nd 2008 edited
    In The Core, they zoom onto the Paramountain and dive into the Earth downright to the core, all accompanied, of course, by Christopher Young´s excellent score.

    In The Mummy, the Universal Logo changes into the burning sun of ancient Egypt to Goldsmith´s memorable middle eastern music style.

    But that opening thing Omaha already mentioned, Alien 3, scared the shit out of me when I watched it the first time. Unfortunately, the movie was only half as cool as that musical stunt. Given the history of that movie, it´s perfectly understandable that it became what it was, but still, it was an interesting take on the universe, and Goldenthal´s score certainly elevated it into a nearly working drama.
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeOct 22nd 2008
    Ok folks, some of you are clearly missing the point of this thread. It not about the viz it's about the music. Are there anymore examples of a composer using the studio logo and then seamlessly meshing it into his or her own score?

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
  4. Alfred Newman, really I guess.
    http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website
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      CommentAuthorErik Woods
    • CommentTimeOct 22nd 2008
    PawelStroinski wrote
    Alfred Newman, really I guess.


    Example?

    -Erik-
    host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS!
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      CommentAuthoromaha
    • CommentTimeOct 22nd 2008
    Reading over the first post I realize how confusing it was and reedited it. biggrin it was really late!!!!
  5. Erik Woods wrote
    PawelStroinski wrote
    Alfred Newman, really I guess.


    Example?

    -Erik-


    I don't know, I've only read he was very creative with combining his fanfare with his main title pieces.
    http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website
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      CommentAuthoromaha
    • CommentTimeNov 1st 2008
    Found another one. Event Horizon by Michael Kamen. This one uses the paramount logo.
  6. No, more recent than "Dante's Peak"; like the last four years recent.


    I just remembered: "Serenity" has one. The Universal Studios Earth logo with words is there; the words leave and the Earth turns dark and realistic (the music continues) and it's old Earth.
    The views and opinions of Ford A. Thaxton are his own and do not necessarily reflect the ones of ANYONE else.