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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2009
    Martijn wrote
    Guys, we already made the point we're not the biggest fans around several times over(and I haven't been actually silent on the matter myself). But there's no need to keep on hammering it home.

    Some people are glad they can express their sentiments here, and they're welcome to.
    For others it'll be a relief to see this thread will sink after tonight.
    Let's leave well enough alone.


    Amen. There's a time and place for everything. I had hoped the "naysayers" would be silent just this night, since even jokes like the above feel a bit like someone's trampling all over your feelings. slant
    I am extremely serious.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2009
    Thor, i apologize for that; i am sure you understand i wasn't aiming you or anyone else, right? I am fed up by the over-exposure, the cheese and the crap i've been bombast with this week, as i've made perfectly clear before. Anyway, in any case, i should shut my mouth, even if just for these days.
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
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      CommentAuthorSteven
    • CommentTimeJul 7th 2009
    I echo Demetris' words.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJul 8th 2009
    Thor wrote
    I just watched the farewell event/funeral on TV, and although there were moments that didn't work as well (such as Al Sharpton's "rally"-style speech or Jennifer Hudson's poor singing), it was very moving, and there were more than a couple of occasions where I had to really fight back the tears (Stevie Wonder's song, the family's words towards the end, including his daughter).

    It was a surprisingly sober and tasteful event and avoided the "circus" event that it COULD have been.

    Thank you for the music, Michael. Thank you for being an integral part of my childhood. Losing you was losing a little bit of my past.

    sad


    Well said Thor.

    Personally I had some problems with quite a bit that was said ( a cynical Brit thing dontcha know ) but there's no getting away from the fact that Jacko was a brilliant and unique talent. You'd have to be seriously stone hearted not to have been moved by some of the tributes.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJul 8th 2009
    Christodoulides wrote
    Thor, i apologize for that; i am sure you understand i wasn't aiming you or anyone else, right? I am fed up by the over-exposure, the cheese and the crap i've been bombast with this week, as i've made perfectly clear before. Anyway, in any case, i should shut my mouth, even if just for these days.


    I agree with you too D, the media crap is beyond a joke I've not seen the like of since Princess Diana.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJul 8th 2009
    Steven wrote
    I saw 10 seconds of it and turned the channel to something more interesting. A fascinating program about paint drying as it would happen.


    Missed it! Any good?
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthormoonie
    • CommentTimeJul 8th 2009
    Dont get me wrong , he is the King of Pop and I enjoy some of his music, but he is hardly god ok.
    Goldsmith Rules!!
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJul 8th 2009
    Don't take the name of thy lord Martijn in vain.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
  1. Steven wrote
    I saw 10 seconds of it and turned the channel to something more interesting. A fascinating program about paint drying as it would happen.


    If it had Thriller or Smooth Criminal playing in the background while the paint dried I would so totally want to see that program. biggrin
    "considering I've seen an enormous debate here about The Amazing Spider-Man and the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it, I feel myself obliged to say: TASTE DIFFERS, DEAL WITH IT" - Thomas G.
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      CommentAuthorSunil
    • CommentTimeJul 10th 2009
    I saw the funeral function of King of Pop, it was very heart touching and emotional moment for every single fan around the world. I miss you, Michael Jackson. You will stay in my heart forever.

    FAREWELL!
    Racism, Prejudices and discrimination exists everywhere.
    • CommentAuthormarkrayen
    • CommentTimeJul 24th 2009
    According to David Michael Frank, Michael was working on "film music" before he died. Here is some excerpts from an article from the Baltimore sun where the film composer recollects his meeting with Michael Jackson where they apparantly discussed scores!


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    He said he listened to classical music all the time; it was his absolute favorite. I was impressed with the pieces he mentioned: Aaron Copland’s Rodeo, Fanfare for the Common Man and Lincoln Portrait; Leonard Bernstein’s West Side Story. I mentioned Bernstein's On the Waterfront. Then Michael mentioned that he loved Elmer Bernstein's film music, too, and he specifically mentioned To Kill a Mockingbird.

    I realized that almost all the classical pieces he mentioned are childlike, very simple and pretty, like Prokofiev’s Peter and the Wolf and Tchaikovsky’s Nutcracker Suite. He also mentioned Debussy several times, specifically Arabesque [No. 1] and Clair de lune. He was very soft-spoken when were talking about music, but when he got animated about something, he was very changed. When he mentioned how he loved Elmer Bernstein, and I said I liked the Magnificent Seven score, Michael started singing the theme very loudly, almost screaming it.

    He said, ‘I’m making a CD.’ Then his son, Prince Michael, came in, and Michael asked him to find a CD player. Paris found one and brought it in with Prince. Michael played the CD. It was very pretty music. He said, ‘But a section is missing.’ He played a second piece. And he said, ‘But a section is missing, too. But I can hum it to you.’ I asked if there was a piano in the house, and he said there was one in the pool house. We headed out there, but Michael stopped when he saw the dog was outside, soaking wet from being in the pool. He didn't want us to get splattered. It was kind of funny. Michael got another assistant to hold the dog while we went to his pool house.
    I sat at the piano and Michael hummed the missing part of one of the pieces. I had taken a little digital recorder with me and asked if I could record him. He was in perfect pitch. I tried to figure out chords to go with it as he hummed. He said, ‘Your instincts are totally right about the chords.’
    We talked about classical music some more. I played some Debussy pieces. Michael seemed very happy and I think he felt very comfortable with me. He mentioned Leonard Bernstein again, and I played some of West Side Story. He told me he had met Bernstein once and that Bernstein had said he was a big fan of Michael’s.


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    [Later] I talked to Michael on the phone. He asked me how the project was going and I said I was waiting to hear from someone so we could set the deal. I suggested we could record the music in London while he was doing the show there. He liked the idea. He again brought up Arabesque.
    I laid the music all out on my computer and started on the orchestrations. Finally, a week before Michael died, his manager, Frank Dileo, called and asked me for an email with the budget and an electronic mock-up of the music, the costs of orchestration.

    Now I have no idea what’s going to happen with this. I’m hoping the family will do something to get this done. I will not bring it up [with them] until after what I think is an appropriate time.
    My guess is that each piece would be seven to ten minutes long. [Each one] is more substantial than a song. It’s very pretty music. One piece had an Irish quality about it. I suggested that we could use a Celtic harp. The pieces sound like pretty film score music, with very traditional harmony, and definitely very strong melodies. One of them was a little John Barry-ish, like in Out of Africa -- that kind of John Barry score. I could hear [in my head] sweeping strings and French horns in unison.

    I told Michael I was going to use one of Leonard Bernstein’s batons I had bought at auction when we did the recording. I knew he would have gotten a big kick out of that. I guess I still will use that baton if I ever get to conduct the music.
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeJul 24th 2009
    Yeah, there was a thread about this earlier, but I can't remember if it was here or FSM. Probably FSM. I'm guessing the music is kinda fluffy, Vivaldi-like, but it would be very interesting to hear.
    I am extremely serious.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJul 24th 2009
    Yay
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
    • CommentAuthorTimmer
    • CommentTimeJul 24th 2009
    Go. Away.
    On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJul 24th 2009
    :shrug:
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
  2. D, somehow your avatar gives me the willies in this particular topic.

    And what Tim said ! GO AWAY wink
    "considering I've seen an enormous debate here about The Amazing Spider-Man and the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it, I feel myself obliged to say: TASTE DIFFERS, DEAL WITH IT" - Thomas G.
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      CommentAuthorSouthall
    • CommentTimeJul 25th 2009
    markrayen wrote
    According to David Michael Frank, Michael was working on "film music" before he died. Here is some excerpts from an article from the Baltimore sun where the film composer recollects his meeting with Michael Jackson where they apparantly discussed scores!


    Thanks for posting - very interesting. Not surprised to see Jackson mention Elmer Bernstein - of course, Bernstein arranged and conducted the Thriller album. Given that it's the biggest-selling album of music ever released, I hope he got royalties, and not just a flat fee!
  3. Not only that but the 'scary music' in the music video is Bernstein's.
    "considering I've seen an enormous debate here about The Amazing Spider-Man and the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it, I feel myself obliged to say: TASTE DIFFERS, DEAL WITH IT" - Thomas G.
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      CommentAuthorDemetris
    • CommentTimeJul 25th 2009
    DreamTheater wrote
    D, somehow your avatar gives me the willies in this particular topic.



    biggrin beer
    Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders.
    • CommentAuthormarkrayen
    • CommentTimeJul 25th 2009
    Actually, Bernstein didn't have anything to do with the actual Thriller album, he composed the "scary music" for the music video. Another who has composed for his videos is Nicholas Pike. Interestingly, both Pike and Bernstein worked with John Landis, who Michael was a big fan of. Pike's orchestral score for "Ghosts" (directed by the late Stan Winston) is good enough to warrant a release, and I think it actually was scheduled for release at some point. The score really stands out in the film and is at least as important to the film as the songs themselves. Some of the score even has accompanying choreography!
    • CommentAuthormarkrayen
    • CommentTimeJul 25th 2009
    Thor wrote
    Yeah, there was a thread about this earlier, but I can't remember if it was here or FSM. Probably FSM. I'm guessing the music is kinda fluffy, Vivaldi-like, but it would be very interesting to hear.


    I don't know. David Michael Frank said it was clearly very film music orientated, and not really classical. I'm expecting something not too far from his mature songwriting in the mid 1990's: ingeniously simple thematic concepts like Little Susie, Childhood, Earth Song, or Stranger in Moscow, but perhaps structurally embellished to move beyond the traditional "strophic" song structure. In Little Susie, which he (unfortunately...) arranged singlehandedly, he actually employed baroque counterpoint - which is shockingly impressive for someone who has based virtually all his musicianship on intuition.
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      CommentAuthorThor
    • CommentTimeAug 12th 2009
    Isn't this taking it a bit too far?:

    http://realcelebritease.com/uncategoriz … led-cheese
    I am extremely serious.
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      CommentAuthorBregt
    • CommentTimeAug 12th 2009
    No, far from it.
    Kazoo
  4. That looks very delicious. In fact I'd take it with a pinch of salt. YUMMY !!! lick
    "considering I've seen an enormous debate here about The Amazing Spider-Man and the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it, I feel myself obliged to say: TASTE DIFFERS, DEAL WITH IT" - Thomas G.
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      CommentAuthorSunil
    • CommentTimeAug 25th 2009
    THE MOONWALKER

    Great Video album by King of Pop. Yesterday, i purchased this DVD. Really awesome.

    BLOOD ON THE DANCE FLOOR

    This is yet another great CD from King of Pop. There are great songs and music, but i am not satisfied with remixes. Its quite sleep Despite that this is really worth buying.
    Racism, Prejudices and discrimination exists everywhere.
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      CommentAuthorsdtom
    • CommentTimeAug 25th 2009
    And now homicide? The news begins all over again and again.
    Thomas
    listen to more classical music!
  5. Sunil wrote
    THE MOONWALKER

    Great Video album by King of Pop. Yesterday, i purchased this DVD. Really awesome.



    I like it too, but it is purely for MJ fans. And the sole reason is to see the awesome 'Smooth Criminal' video in the context of a well made 40 minute long short-film.
    "considering I've seen an enormous debate here about The Amazing Spider-Man and the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it, I feel myself obliged to say: TASTE DIFFERS, DEAL WITH IT" - Thomas G.
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      CommentAuthorSunil
    • CommentTimeAug 26th 2009
    I would like to elaborate on my opinion towards Moonwalker video album. Last night, i watched complete DVD and i was so excited and enlightened because of brilliant DVD presentation. Moreover, it was quite entertaining too. The opening song Man in the Mirror, which was taken from Live Footage from one of his "Bad" concert, was charming one. But i like Badder song, in which you can see small cute kids dance or to say imitate like MJ, that was quite cool. The highlight of the album was "Smooth Criminal" song. It was awesome and well choreographed by MJ.

    By the way, i totally disagree with Gilles, for saying that it is purely for MJ fans. In fact, this will be liked by non-MJ fans too. Because the DVD presentation is extremely good. Hey guys, if you like pop music, don't miss this one.

    Have a nice day!
    Racism, Prejudices and discrimination exists everywhere.
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      CommentAuthorSunil
    • CommentTimeAug 27th 2009
    INVINCIBLE

    Yesterday, i purchased yet another Michael Jackson album called Invincible. I can use just one word AWESOME. There are songs like You are my life, Don't Walk Away, Cry, The Lost Children are really heart touching and melodious songs. I recommend this to all music lovers, especially to pop music lovers. Moreover, for MJ fans it would be great treasure as well as pleasure to own this CD. Don't miss it.
    Racism, Prejudices and discrimination exists everywhere.
  6. That's maybe the only album I don't like, sure there are a couple of good tracks such as 'Rock my World' and 'Unbreakable', 'Break of Dawn' but the whole album relies a little too much on those annoyingly repetitive beats and not enough on great melodies to recommend it to anyone but the most hardened Jackson fans. I prefer the earlier Jackson of Off the Wall, Thriller, Bad and Dangerous (which already showed his shift in style with the repetitive beats).
    "considering I've seen an enormous debate here about The Amazing Spider-Man and the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it, I feel myself obliged to say: TASTE DIFFERS, DEAL WITH IT" - Thomas G.