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- CommentAuthorBregt
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2015
Steven wrote
San Andreas Andrew Lockington
I suppose this technically counts as a guilty pleasure, but this is also one of my favourites from 2015. I'm a little biased as it's my own 46 minute edit (which basically means I might as well have composed the score myself).
Have you seen the hippo scene?Kazoo -
- CommentAuthorThor
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2015
Erik Woods wrote
^ It's amazing when music is recorded properly.
-Erik-
It is. Unfortunately for Horner, it rarely happened.I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorCaptain Future
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2015
Hå???
Some of Horner's scores - Star Trek, Rocketeer, Krull, Apollo 13, Titanic, Avatar among them, belong to the most stellar sounding score albums I have ever encountered!
VolkerBach's music is vibrant and inspired. -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2015 edited
Thor wrote
Erik Woods wrote
^ It's amazing when music is recorded properly.
-Erik-
It is. Unfortunately for Horner, it rarely happened.
The fuck? The Land Before Time sounds great. That's what dynamics are supposed to sound like on a album that isn't part of the loudness wars!
Also, Horner worked with Eric Tomlinson and Shawn Murphy. Murphy did he BEST stuff for Horner (The Land Before Time, The Rocketeer, Apollo 13, The Spitfire Grill, Searching For Bobby Fischer, etc) and Tomlinson did brilliant work on Brainstorm and Aliens. And while Simon Rhodes is hit and miss you can't deny that The Mask of Zorro, The Perfect Storm, Pas De Deux, just to name a few, don't sound magnificent.
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorThor
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2015 edited
Erik Woods wrote
The fuck? The Land Before Time sounds great. That's what dynamics are supposed to sound like on a album that isn't part of the loudness wars!
Totally disagree. I prefer sound that is far more drier, and where you don't constantly have to turn your volume dial up and down. Some of this stuff sounds like it was recorded in a stadium, while the speakers are all the way at the back of the room. But I agree that Horner albums were usually mixed better before the 90s. There are some exceptions, but it's generally the rule.I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2015
Thor wrote
Erik Woods wrote
The fuck? The Land Before Time sounds great. That's what dynamics are supposed to sound like on a album that isn't part of the loudness wars!
Totally disagree. I prefer sound that is far more drier, and where you don't constantly have to turn your volume dial up and down.
Then why are you listening to instrumental music?!
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorThor
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2015
What?!?I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2015
Thor wrote
But I agree that Horner albums were usually mixed better before the 90s.
Not true at all!
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2015
Thor wrote
What?!?
Dynamics, Thor! Instrumental music isn't all the same volume.
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorThor
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2015 edited
Erik Woods wrote
Thor wrote
What?!?
Dynamics, Thor! Instrumental music isn't all the same volume.
-Erik-
You don't say?
Plenty of great film music recordings (I usually like the way Williams' albums are mixed, for example, or Elfman's -- just to name two). But I've always had issues with Horner's particular sound engineers. A lot of the dynamics are completely SWALLOWED by the spacey sound. Listening to a lot of these albums is like a DJ gig, constantly reaching for the volume buttons to make the low listenable and to avoid speakers from crashing when there's a blast.I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2015 edited
All of Williams scores since Empire of the Sun (minus a few like Spacecamp, The Accidental Tourist, Stanley and Iris, Last Crusade, the first two Harry Potters and Rosewood) have all been recorded and mixed by Shawn Murphy and for the most part sound awful. There are exceptions (The Lost World, Far and Away, and Hook) but A.I., for instance, is one of the worst offenders. However, since about War of the Worlds they've gotten better but Shawn Murphy was one of the worst things to happen to John Williams. He should have stuck with Lyle Burbrdige or Bruce Botnick (E.T. / Temple of Doom) or worked with Dennis Sands, Danny Elfman and Alan Silvestri's brilliant engineer.
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorThor
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2015 edited
A.I. is one of the best-mixed albums ever!
We clearly have VERY different preferences when it comes to our mixing, but if you like the sound of the Horner albums in question, all the more credit to you.I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2015
Thor wrote
A.I. is one of the best-mixed albums ever!
You are clearly deaf. You talk about an orchestra getting swallowed by a spacey and distant recording.... yeah, that's A.I. The new expanded release helps but it still ain't great.
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorThor
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2015 edited
A.I. is gorgeous -- an impressionistic sound that captures the "chill" of the compositions, as well as the warmth when it is needed. It is nothing AT ALL like the Horner albums we speak of. They have more in common with those old RSNO recordings, in fact.I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorFalkirkBairn
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2015
Film music will have an extended dynamic range: quiet for quiet bit and loud for loud bits. Unless the film dictates the need for a narrower dynamic range. That's my understanding anyway.
I don't know if a film score's dynamic range is artificially compressed for album release or not. I do think that, for example, the UK's ClassicFM output is compressed so the extreme levels are removed. Mainly to make listening to the music in the car more agreeable to listeners.The views expressed in this post are entirely my own and do not reflect the opinions of maintitles.net, or for that matter, anyone else. http://www.racksandtags.com/falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeJun 30th 2015
I can't listen to classical FM stations because of their broadcast limiters and compressors. Terrible!
My radio show always sounded like garbage of the FM dial.
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorDreamTheater
- CommentTimeJul 1st 2015
An American Tail + Fievel Goes West
Horner excelled at animation (among a great many things).
I'm loving these two now more than ever and it's extremely sad that his music has now been added to the ever growing list of composers I adore that are no longer with us.
"considering I've seen an enormous debate here about The Amazing Spider-Man and the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it, I feel myself obliged to say: TASTE DIFFERS, DEAL WITH IT" - Thomas G. -
- CommentAuthorchristopher
- CommentTimeJul 1st 2015
Indeed. I'm listening to "Return to the Wild" from WOLF TOTEM and realizing that it's one of his last great compositions (depending on the quality of coming releases it might be the final masterpiece we hear from him, though I have high hopes for his upcoming scores). -
- CommentAuthorThor
- CommentTimeJul 2nd 2015
you EW ll crazy peoples.I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorKevin Scarlet
- CommentTimeJul 2nd 2015
Southall wrote
I like Troy more than anyone else does, and I love Beyond Borders from that list, which feels particularly inspired to me.
Beyond Borders is severely hit or miss. Some of the music sounds like really bad porn music, but the last few tracks are stunning.
I disagree about 2003 being uninspired for Horner. House of Sand and Fog and definitely The Missing are superb. -
- CommentAuthorchristopher
- CommentTimeJul 2nd 2015
Kevin Scarlet wrote
Beyond Borders is severely hit or miss. Some of the music sounds like really bad porn music, but the last few tracks are stunning.
I disagree about 2003 being uninspired for Horner. House of Sand and Fog and definitely The Missing are superb.
As I said, I really like THE MISSING. HoSaF has a great theme, but I found a lot of the middle part pretty dull, and much more synthy than I'm accustomed to from Horner. I'll give it another listen soon.
Speaking of more synthy than I'm accustomed to, I'm playing THE BOY IN THE STRIPED PAJAMAS for the first time. I really liked the first two tracks, and have just started the last two tracks. All those ones in the middle had much more synth than I was expecting. Some of them are pretty good, but my first listen left me underwhelmed.
Earlier today I played THE PELICAN BRIEF. While it's a little dull (being mostly suspense music) for the first nine tracks, those last four tracks are pretty fantastic. There are a couple themes there that I really love. -
- CommentAuthorThor
- CommentTimeJul 2nd 2015 edited
christopher wrote
Speaking of more synthy than I'm accustomed to, I'm playing THE BOY IN THE STRIPED PAJAMAS for the first time. I really liked the first two tracks, and have just started the last two tracks. All those ones in the middle had much more synth than I was expecting. Some of them are pretty good, but my first listen left me underwhelmed.
This is, simply speaking, the greatest score Horner every wrote. A masterpiece from start to finish and a VERY personal favourite of mine. I'm not sure what you mean with 'synthy'. Yes, there are synths in it, but very discrete here and there. "The Odd Discovery Beyond the Trees" is my favourite Horner cue of all time.I am extremely serious. -
- CommentAuthorJosh B
- CommentTimeJul 2nd 2015
Star Trek II - James Horner
This is the first score I listened to after Horner's death that really choked me up. It's always been a personal favorite of mine. -
- CommentAuthorchristopher
- CommentTimeJul 2nd 2015
Thor wrote
christopher wrote
Speaking of more synthy than I'm accustomed to, I'm playing THE BOY IN THE STRIPED PAJAMAS for the first time. I really liked the first two tracks, and have just started the last two tracks. All those ones in the middle had much more synth than I was expecting. Some of them are pretty good, but my first listen left me underwhelmed.
This is, simply speaking, the greatest score Horner every wrote. A masterpiece from start to finish and a VERY personal favourite of mine. I'm not sure what you mean with 'synthy'. Yes, there are synths in it, but very discrete here and there. "The Odd Discovery Beyond the Trees" is my favourite Horner cue of all time.
So, if I'm reading you correctly, you like it? :P That's cool that it's such a personal favorite for you. "The Odd Discovery. . . " is lovely. As for my comment about it being synthy, the strings often sound like synthetic strings to me. Am I wrong? Like in "Dolls are Not for Big Girls..." for example. The strings sound very synthetic to me. Is that an actual orchestra? It's just not my favorite sound.
THE MAN WITHOUT A FACE - Horner
It doesn't have one of his more memorable themes, but it's unremittingly gorgeous from start to finish. It's not as talked about as many of his scores are, but I think it's wonderful. -
- CommentAuthorJosh B
- CommentTimeJul 3rd 2015
Humanoids from the Deep - James Horner
First listen. Interesting mainly to see where Horner started out but the Goldsmith lifts are irritating and too much of this music indulges in horror music stings. -
- CommentAuthorAtham
- CommentTimeJul 3rd 2015
NP: Babe - Nigel Westlake
This is a fantastic new recording of the complete score celebrating the 20th anniversary of the film.
In Australia the movie had a "live concert set to film" event in Melbourne and the score has had minor changes in orchestration and tempo. So it sounds fresh and new and dialogue free.
A great companion piece to Westlake's wonderful Paper Planes score! -
- CommentAuthorJosh B
- CommentTimeJul 3rd 2015
Once Around - James Horner
There isn't a great deal here and what is here was taken very blatantly from Benjamin Britten's "Serenade for Tenor, Horn and Strings." I'm disappointed in you, James. -
- CommentAuthorTheWanderer
- CommentTimeJul 3rd 2015
My favourite track from ALIENS is the unused COMBAT DROP track. Been listening to that on a loop for a bit. Great stuff. -
- CommentAuthorCaptain Future
- CommentTimeJul 3rd 2015
I listened yesterday to Searching for Bobby Fischer (1994) - James Horner
The expanded new release. While I did like a lot what I heard, I thought that there wasn't enough variation to really carry for the duration of the album. I'm neither familiar with the original release of the music nor with the film. I'll watch it as soon as I can catch it. Maybe a shorter album would work better for me in this case. (In this case, Thor!
) I'll give it another spin shortly.
VolkerBach's music is vibrant and inspired. -
- CommentAuthorCaptain Future
- CommentTimeJul 3rd 2015
Today in the mail and NL: An American Tail (1986) - James Horner
I watched the film two or three times over the years, the first time, when it hit cinemas in 1986. I always liked it but somehow I never gave much thought to the music. So this score eluded me. Not any more. What gorgeous stuff!Bach's music is vibrant and inspired.