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RAMIN DJAWADI
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- CommentAuthorBregt
- CommentTimeMay 5th 2008
I agree, this score sucks balls until they bleed.
I haven't heard everything because I just couldn't stand it. Not because I'm a snobbisch, orchestra only or 'only the old is good' Justin kinda guy, but just becuase it's utterly disgusting, haidache indulging, foot-in-mouth music. I don't know who decides this to want this to be composed and be put in a movie. WTF man! Its just very bad, flat and unpersonal music.
It's even worse some of us have to excuse themselves for not liking this, not because it clearly sucks, but because the others think we only want the oldies or classics. Is it so hard to see how bad this is?
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- CommentAuthorBregt
- CommentTimeMay 5th 2008
Oh, thanks for the lolcats Martijn. Especially the last one is hilarious.
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- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeMay 5th 2008 edited
Bregt wrote
...sucks balls until they bleed.
You certainly know how to have a good time Bregt. -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeMay 6th 2008
Bregt wrote
It's even worse some of us have to excuse themselves for not liking this, not because it clearly sucks, but because the others think we only want the oldies or classics. Is it so hard to see how bad this is?
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- CommentAuthorScribe
- CommentTimeMay 6th 2008
If it's so bad, why do 94% of critics like the film?
Are the days past when a great film requires a great score?
Can you name a single of the all-time top blockbusters that did NOT have a great score?I love you all. Never change. Well, unless you want to! -
- CommentAuthorMartijn
- CommentTimeMay 6th 2008
Iron Man, while I'm sure quite enjoyable, wouldn't qualify as an "all-time blockbuster" by the longest stretch of the imaginaion.
It'll be more in the way of "enjoyably noisy summer fare" which almost as a rule of thumb has negligible or merely serviceable scores (Hulk, Transformers, Superman Returns, X-Men et cetera et cetera)'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeMay 6th 2008
1. Titanic (1997) $600,779,824
2. Star Wars (1977) $460,935,665
3. Shrek 2 (2004) $436,471,036
4. E.T.: The Extra-Terrestrial (1982) $434,949,459
5. Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace (1999) $431,065,444
6. Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest (2006) $423,032,628
7. Spider-Man (2002) $403,706,375
8. Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith (2005) $380,262,555
9. The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003) $377,019,252
10. Spider-Man 2 (2004) $373,377,893
11. The Passion of the Christ (2004) $370,270,943
12. Jurassic Park (1993) $356,784,000
13. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers (2002) $340,478,898
14. Finding Nemo (2003) $339,714,367
15. Spider-Man 3 (2007) $336,530,303
16. Forrest Gump (1994) $329,691,196
17. The Lion King (1994) $328,423,001
18. Shrek the Third (2007) $320,706,665
19. Transformers (2007) $318,759,914
20. Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (2001) $317,557,891
21. The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (2001) $313,837,577
22. Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones (2002) $310,675,583
23. Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End (2007) $309,404,152
24. Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi (1983) $309,125,409
25. Independence Day (1996) $306,124,059
26. Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl (2003) $305,388,685
27. The Sixth Sense (1999) $293,501,675
28. Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (2007) $292,000,866
29. The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe (2005) $291,709,845
30. Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980) $290,158,751
31. Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire (2005) $289,994,397
32. Home Alone (1990) $285,761,243
33. The Matrix Reloaded (2003) $281,492,479
34. Meet the Fockers (2004) $279,167,575
35. Shrek (2001) $267,652,016
36. Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (2002) $261,970,615
37. The Incredibles (2004) $261,437,578
38. How the Grinch Stole Christmas (2000) $260,031,035
39. Jaws (1975) $260,000,000
40. I Am Legend (2007) $256,386,216
41. Monsters, Inc. (2001) $255,870,172
42. Batman (1989) $251,188,924
43. Night at the Museum (2006) $250,863,268
44. Men in Black (1997) $250,147,615
45. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (2004) $249,358,727
46. Toy Story 2 (1999) $245,823,397
47. Cars (2006) $244,052,771
48. Bruce Almighty (2003) $242,589,580
49. Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981) $242,374,454
50. Twister (1996) $241,688,385
Draw your own conclusions. I point in particular to numbers 3, 6, 18, 19, 26, 27, 28, 29, 34, 35, 38, 43, 48 and 50 while drawing mine. -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeMay 6th 2008
Sylvos wrote
Ralph Kruhm wrote
but I can see why "true soundtrack enthusiasts" would not listen to the album without vomiting.
A true soundtrack enthusiast is someone who can enjoy all film scores, no matter the quality of composition. You'd better say "fans of pure orchestral music" or "fans of golden/silver age of film music".
Indeed.
all this talk about the 'true' film music fans or enthusiasts or anything like that, reminds me of MANOWAR and "posers" vs "true brothers of metal".
.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeMay 6th 2008
It's stupid, and it was Justin who brought it up. It's elitist to yourself a "true" anything.
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- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeMay 6th 2008
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- CommentAuthorScribe
- CommentTimeMay 6th 2008
I usually base my conclusions off the worldwide blockbusters list, where I don't think Shrek 3 rates so highly.
But my point wasn't that Iron Man is going to be one of the all-time greatest hits (although it could if it holds well, especially if Speed Racer isn't successful). My point was my question...does a great (or at least a good) film still have to have a great score? Because traditionally it did...right?I love you all. Never change. Well, unless you want to! -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeMay 6th 2008
Often, but by no means always, I would say. Is it really such a good film? -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeMay 6th 2008
It's fun, a lot of fun. By no means a masterpiece, but Jon Favreau found the right tone for this film.
Robert Downey Jr. is a legend! -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeMay 6th 2008 edited
No, never had good films always matched with good scores.
As for IRON MAN, do you really think it's SUCH a good film, ranking among those very films from our dear past you have in mind? Do you really think that after 20 years time it will actually be remembered?
I think not. People are just exaggerating on this film and its antithesis with the Djawadi score. If someone else had actually scored it, and better, then i don't think people would feel the need to highlight the difference and many times - even unconsciously, overrate the actual value of the film by doing so.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorMatt C
- CommentTimeMay 6th 2008
Demetris, in any case, this is a movie where the actual film itself is better than the musical score that accompanies it.http://unsungfilmscores.blogspot.com/ -- My film/TV/game score review blog -
- CommentAuthorPanthera
- CommentTimeMay 6th 2008
The music works in the context of the film. And RC music isn't necessarily bad. I think a lot of you dislike it because there is so much of it. I like plenty of RC music, along with plenty of non RC music. -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeMay 6th 2008 edited
justin boggan wrote
And I don't really consider Justin a "true" film music fan by any stretch of the imagination.
I don't even consider you human. ;-)
You can use the 'smilies function JB >On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeMay 6th 2008
Steven wrote
It's fun, a lot of fun. By no means a masterpiece, but Jon Favreau found the right tone for this film.
Robert Downey Jr. is a legend!
Excellent actor and I wanna see the movie!
On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorRalph Kruhm
- CommentTimeMay 6th 2008 edited
Is IRON MAN a great movie masterpiece that will stand against time and climate change? No.
Is IRON MAN a great intro into this year´s summer blockbuster extravaganza? Yes.
Is IRON MAN´s shameless but entertaining machism enhanced by the score? I think so.
Does that mean it´s a good score for the movie? IMHO, yes.
Does that mean it´s a good listen outside the movie? That depends on your taste and nothing else.
So where´s the difference between this RC score and all the others we teared ourselves apart about? There is none. You can end this discussion or go right over to the Transformers topic to see how it ends.
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- CommentAuthorMartijn
- CommentTimeMay 6th 2008
Ralph Kruhm wrote
So where´s the difference between this RC score and all the others we teared ourselves apart about? There is none. You can end this discussion or go right over to the Transformers topic to see how it ends.
You da man, Ralph!'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorRalph Kruhm
- CommentTimeMay 6th 2008
I love that cat!
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- CommentAuthormoviescore
- CommentTimeMay 6th 2008
The most hilarious review I've read in a long time. Thanks for speaking the truth, James.
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- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeMay 6th 2008
Scribe wrote
If it's so bad, why do 94% of critics like the film?
Begone, buyer of hype.A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeMay 6th 2008
Christodoulides wrote
No, never had good films always matched with good scores.
As for IRON MAN, do you really think it's SUCH a good film, ranking among those very films from our dear past you have in mind? Do you really think that after 20 years time it will actually be remembered?
I think not. People are just exaggerating on this film and its antithesis with the Djawadi score. If someone else had actually scored it, and better, then i don't think people would feel the need to highlight the difference and many times - even unconsciously, overrate the actual value of the film by doing so.
You assume there must be some other reason people rate a film like this so highly. Can it not just be it's a good film? Good film, extremely average score. -
- CommentAuthorThomas Glorieux
- CommentTimeMay 6th 2008
moviescore wrote
The most hilarious review I've read in a long time. Thanks for speaking the truth, James.
mc
haha, this review makes me smile
waaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh -
- CommentAuthorHybrid Soldier
- CommentTimeMay 6th 2008
Good review...
He's talented...
I'm not kidding...
What ?
Oh yeah I try to imagine how he wrote it...
I know !
A long time ago he heard about something called Iron Man... He saw the name Favreau, so as everybody did, he thought John "The Devil broke my computer because I used a choir sample as main theme for another film" Debney would be hired for it...
Unfortunaly, it wasn't the case... And another named appeared => Ramin Djawadi !
Who ? Someone from Re... Rem... Remote... Remote Controoooooool !!!!!!
"God, what have I done ? I need an explanation !!!
RC... Grrrrr... Wow ! I understand ! That's a test ! Haha !!!! Whatever happens, the score is BAD, BAD, BAD !!!!! Electric guitars ? Hans Zimmer as producer ? Hahaha !! THANK YOU GOD, you're the MAN !!! Hahahahahahahaaaaaaaa !!!!!!"
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- CommentAuthorMartijn
- CommentTimeMay 6th 2008
Ehh...dude, are you OK?'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeMay 6th 2008
Hybrid Soldier wrote
Oh yeah I try to imagine how he wrote it...
Sadly all I had to do was put the CD in the player. The words easily followed. -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeMay 6th 2008
Steven wrote
You assume there must be some other reason people rate a film like this so highly. Can it not just be it's a good film? Good film, extremely average score.
Well, depends how one defines a "good film" 'cause i see Spiderman up there with the top blockbusters of all time and i want to throw up but generally speaking, i see a vivid tendency (*cough* fsm *cough*) to toss the score in high contrast to the supposed brilliance of the film. I don't buy it..Iron man? Nah.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorjedizim
- CommentTimeMay 6th 2008
Well...I for one thought Iron Man was a much better film than any and ALL of the Spiderman films. I won't say it is cinematic brilliance or anything, but it was a very good time and I will see it again and buy the DVD when it comes out. Oh...I also pre ordered the CD several weeks ago...will see how it holds up on CD when I get it...---- Well, I wouldn't argue that it wasn't a no holds barred, adrenaline fueled thrill ride. But, there is no way you can perpetrate that amount of carnage and mayhem and not incur a considerable amount of paperwork.
