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I didn't. I can't stand him and I wish he'd just disappear but I don't wish harm on him ( at least no harm beyond OTT jokes ), it's no wonder these "stars" are always surrounded by 20 stone hulks and are near unapproachable by the public.

Are you sure that's not just the worlds most perfectly proportioned midget talking to an average sized bloke?

Indeed, I don't get why anyone would find that funny. In fact I don't get why people are so angry at Bieber. Is it due to jealousy, or is it because they see him as a symptom of a sick society that worships fluff instead of real talent? In any case, it makes no sense to blame Bieber. He did what any of us would in his situation, and became filthy rich. Just a random kid who got lucky. Good for him.

Peter

Utter crappy douches that suck all the attention over hard-working talent that really deserves it, will always be hated. Especially if they're as arrogant and childish as the Bieber dildo.

As far as the jealousy thing, i find it funny whenever it comes up as an argument (especially from the Belieber camps), except if anyone here wanted to be a popular pop singer.

That said, I do hate Justine's Beaver.

If ever we have a one world leader I think I'll vote for you Peter

Him or Dalai Lama

Just an normal kid, for who whenever he opens his mouth it's printed on the front page of news papers across the world. Not surprisingly a young guy like that says stupid stuff on a frequent basis, like we all did at that age.




You mean, "except if anyone here wanted to be a millionaire and have young women screaming our names whenever we leave a building"? Yep, I can't see how any guy would ever want that! Doesn't exactly seem like a coincidence that this kid is worshipped by young women across the world, and the group who seems to hate him the most are young men. What are the odds?!




I might give you a couple of countries to rule over.

Peter

Peter, that is bollocks my friend; i don't know about you and your fantasies but i live a perfectly full and happy sex life with my wife (Still no kids, that's why ) so i don't need any more in my life.

As i said:

D, keep in mind that I never said that jealousy/envy was your motivator. I mentioned two distinct possibilities to explain the widespread hatred, and if you say that the first one doesn't apply to you, I'll take your word for it. If you're one of those rare people who doesn't want to be rich, and would instantly give the money away if you ever won a billion bucks in the lottery, it doesn't change the fact that most people want to be rich. If you're not envious of a person whose life turns into an Axe commercial every time he leaves a building, that's great for you, but it doesn't change the fact that it's the ultimate male fantasy to be desired and worshipped by beautiful, young women. Lastly, there's the curious fact that the group of people who seems to worship Bieber are young women and the group who hates him the most are young men. It's the most obvious conclusion in the world that the wide-spread hatred of this boy is, not wholly, but in some part fueled by envy. But of course individuals differ, and each person will have different reasons for hating the kid.

Peter

I think I'm with D on this one. I'm not sure I'd want that lifestyle either. Sure, I'd love to be rich, but I wouldn't want to be famous. And I'm not interested in attention from any other girl than the one I love! (Sorry to sound sappy, but it's true!)

I'm sure there's a famous quote along the lines of 'better to be rich and miserable than be poor and miserable'.

I wouldn't want fame or celebrity ( ever! ) but it would be nice to have the comfort and security that substantial money can bring, never having to worry about bills, mortgage etc. I would like financial security now ( please send your unwanted millions from your Euro-lottery win to me please D ) but shudder to think what I would have done with big amounts of cash in my 20's.

True enough I suppose. I can't ignore millions of years of evolution! But I'm still not really interested in that kind of lifestyle. It can become an addiction to have that easy access to so many sexual partners, and I'm not interested in going down that path! Sex would ultimately become meaningless.

Again, my dislike of Bieber is his attitude, not his legion of fans (although they in themselves can be quite annoying).

The power of Christ compels you

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Interesting thoughts.

From an evolutionary perspective it would indeed be rational to sleep with as many as possible (though becoming a sperm donor would be an even more fruitful and safer choice), but from MY perspective, it would be irrational to act like this, as it would only sabotage the goals I have set for myself in my life.

Sure, the insistence on human monogamy is social, but biology and social constructs are not conflicting concepts; biology has a huge influence on our behaviours and hence the way we organize societies. We do for instance have instincts and emotions due to our evolutionary past that causes us to behave with aggression towards sexual competitors, and it's not surprising that these strong emotions and instincts have found their way into cultural attitudes, morals and laws in our societies.




I wouldn't call love irrational, since this too depends on perspective. From an evolutionary view point both familial love and love between sexual partners are perfectly rational, but from the perspective of an individual and his/hers goals in life, love can really mess things up.

Peter