Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull - *SPOILERS WARNING*

I really liked how Ford grabbed it last-minute from his son's hands. Cause you know what? If Mutt actually wore it, that would mean LAME sequels in the form of 'son of the mask' and crap like that!

Exactly why I think it was Lucas's idea first, then Spielberg and/or Ford said "Yeah, you know what? How about we do this instead George".

Somtimes is like if he had some plastic surgery or too much make up that makes his eyes unexpressive.

i don't know.

Im agree about this film contains a lot of Spielrberg masterful hand. Specially in main titles sequence and in "jungle Chase".

Essentially, the Lucas stuff sucks, and Spielberg and Ford thing Rocks!

Exactly; it's that rare kind of entertainment of the classical sense; innocent and boyish, just fun. Without even profanity, nudity, gratuitous violence or controversiality. Not that I've got something against all that, but to find a blockbuster that doesn't need all those things to get attention, is just really refreshing, and we should be grateful Spielberg is still delivering those goods.

Just got back from seeing it in London. Had a pretty good day - had lunch at Planet Hollywood and saw the bullwhip and the holy grail there!

And I'll say now - I failed at not hearing the score until I saw the movie. I got so damn close too. I've had the CD for nearly a week now, avoided listening to it, avoided putting it on my iPod and avoided any clips on YouTube etc....but guess what they're playing when I walk in to the cinema!

Big-ass-post-full-of-spoilers!

Anyway, as for the movie...I'm kinda on neutral ground here. It was entertaining, but some stuff just didn't feel right.

The beginning was awesome (I loved the Paramount logo-fade!). The warehouse stuff was pretty good, as was the reprise of the Ark theme and the end of Flight From Peru (say what you will, but I thought that was cool!)

That rocket-sled thingy - awesome, I want one! I just wish this opening sequence went on for longer. The return of the marmot thingy at the end of that segment felt a little cheesy though. The whole nuclear testing thing was ok I guess, but it went too far out of my comfort zone. I accept the fact it's now meant to be 1957, but it just didn't feel right.

The return to the college (again, another reprise from Flight From Peru which I loved) was, in my opinion, the strongest part of the film. Very funny, good music, and that wicked bike chase. I enjoyed the little references to Henry and Brody. This was the only part of the film where I had a smile on my face throughout. I just wish it stayed like this.

Anyway...onto the first National Treasure segment. The whole looking for the body of whoever it was in Mexico...boy, could they drag that out for any longer? I actually stopped paying attention here and just started thinking about something else. And it continued when we first arrived in the jungle. Why did we have the whole Temple Of Doom hypnosis crap again? *yawn*

The jungle chase. I was massively let down here. If you think about it, Indy does nothing here apart from drive the vechicle. It just focussed on Mutt having the stupid-ass sword fight with Spalko and having *oh my god* the lamest Tarzan-swinging-shit I've ever seen. I couldn't stand that scene, I was cringing.

The ants...pretty cool, but rather pointless.

Don't get me started on the waterfall...I started thinking back to the over the top bits in the previous movies here and tried to block out how dumb this was (the huge cliff coming out on no where in Raiders came to mind), but again, something just didn't feel right about it.

I enjoyed the second National Treasure bit more than the earlier scene, right up until we get to the room full of the alien skeletons. I cannot think of anyone but Lucas to blame for this. NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. This is Indy. He goes after religious stuff, not freakin' aliens. And as cool as the final ''departure'' shot was visually, I felt it was f***ing stupid. It didn't belong in an Indy movie at all. Nor did the weird "coming together" of the skeletons to form an alien...that was the low-point in my opinion. Teh suck.

And onto the characters. I love Mutt. Aside from his stupid jungle chase stuff, I thought he fit in well. But as for Mac, Marion and Oxley. The first - why did this character exist other than to be a mole? Marion...ok...sure, be in it if you wish, but I'd have appreciated it if you'd actually contributed something to the story other than just "hey Indy, you have a son!". And Oxley...dear God. Who's idea was it to have someone who talked jibberish right up until the last five minutes? Fail.

I'm one of those people that only seems to focus on the bad rather than the good, so while the above comments may make it appear like I hated it, I did enjoy the movie a lot. I can easily seperate it from the original trilogy, as it doesn't feel like it belongs there. A good adventure movie, but not a great Indy movie.

As for the score - I was actually surprised how closely it matched my predictions. I'd read a lot of the comments from you guys before seeing the movie, and it was kinda what I thought it would be. As mentioned above, the coolest parts were the Flight From Peru reprises and the bike chase cue. Again though, something felt off with the score. I don't know why, as musically it's sound. As someone said above, no goosebump moments, which surprised me greatly. I took a quick spin of the soundtrack when I got in, and even the Raiders March doesn't do it (but if I listen to the older versions, it still does!). Very odd.

3/5 from me.

A couple of questions though:

- What's with the zombie-mask-people at that graveyard? Were they meant to be human or not?
- Even though they blew up the tree cutter at the beginning of the jungle chase, why was there a huge-ass road that they had the chase on?

They're human. They're part of the Incan/Mayan/Lucasian tribe guarding the secret of the skull.



I think that the same WWI tank that was driving through Palestina in Last Crusade had been on a sightseeing tour in Peru.
Either that, or they were incredibly lucky.

I've been listening to the score a lot since seeing the movie, and something is definately wrong with it. I've been struggling to put my finger on what it is exactly, and I think I've come to it. Tehnically, the music is sound. It's "good" music, but it's not good.

As people have said, there's not a single "goosebump" moment in the score, and here's my take on why:

Total. Lack. Of. Emotion.

There is nothing in this which does anything for me. Even the Raiders March does bugger all. Nothing in this score is scary, exciting, intense, heroic or beautiful. There's nothing. It just goes on from one cue to another providing nothing to grab onto. The new themes aren't exactly good compared to the previous scores, but you don't need a good theme to make something sound good.

I don't know if it's right to place blame on the orchestra or Williams here...but screw it, let's just blame Lucas.

Btw, at the end of the movie, was that the Grail theme playing or the "family" theme? I couldn't tell at all, and if it was the former, what the hell was that doing in there?!

I saw Indiana Jones 4 again....

After my great dissapointment in the first

How many people has said, It's not a good Indy movie. But it's a GREAT ADVENTURE MOVIE.

Sometimes it's what this movie have to be, using CGI to make great landscapes and great set pieces (specially this impossible Spielberg Shoots).Sadly Lucas over use of this kind of things make this movie a Videogame like his SW prequels.

About the over the top moments...I was thinking... Temple of the Doom's Slalom and Mine car chase are not too far from this. But for some reason the CGI still are not good like the miniatures. So you can't enter in it.

I find really, really impressive the jungle chase (even with Mutt's swordfight, wich I find is cool).

The only moments wich are really annoying are :the "alvin and the chipnuts" The fridge sequence, the tarzan scene and the tree in the waterfal.


A lot of moments where this movie is What it has to be : The Bike Chase ( Old Fashioned Stunts with a great comical moments withour being ridicolous), All the Tomb -City of Gold Puzzles and Landscapes, Parts of Jungle Chase and the Snake pitt Sequence (well, it can have been done in a real Jungle , not in a set)


4 Stars for an Adventure movie.

Greal theme. Because Spielberg Said Sangreal search is also the search for Indy and his Father relationship. A good Reprise. I love it.

About the score...I TOLD YOU!

What was the general reaction people got from the theatre at the end? A few people briefly clapped when I saw it, but it sounded hesitent and out of politeness. Something tells me a lot of people weren't big fans of the movie. And I've been going round a few message boards and a lot of people hated the ending.

Another question - does anyone want an Indy 5?

I do, as it damn well can't end like this.

I want to murder George Lucas. It has his fingerprints all over this. I didn't really give a hoot that he screwed up Star Wars, but now that he's done it with Indy...I f***ing hate this man!

I hope we get another apology movie like we got Crusade as a "sorry for Temple".

ahahahahaha....

I second about the Muder Gerorge Lucas Thing. Spierlberg is so inspired on this movie!!!! Why lucas want savotage his friend!!!

Anyway, Probably "Kingdom" is my third favourite Indy movie. The last Crusade, Raiders, Kingdom and Temple.

But for my nostalgic feelings, and his macho man nature, probably I consider Temple more indy movie than Kingdom. (both has really annoying moments, In the temple case are: Willie, Shortround. the childrens and the Slalom's thing.)

Try to see the reaction to the www.comingsoon.net site.

It's not average. It's AN AMAZIN ADVENTURE FILM. with annoying Lucas moments.

A "perfect average film"?

A perfect average film?


Haven't got my head around that one!