HOWARD SHORE

I've no idea, Martijn.

I'm sure that there are copies elsewhere but SAE doesn't have any until at least 18th December.

Ok....I almost have finished my Star Wars analysis.

I will beggin with Lord OF the Rings.

Wich Complete Recordings Is better listening?

Are there some site with track by track analysis of Retur of the King sessions?

You can get a track by track analysis on the annotated score here. It's a free pdf file.

Not to pour oil on the fire or anything, but I couldn't help but think that most of the reasons provided for this score's enduring power are what are referred to as 'straw man' arguments.



Ok, so it's great because it's based on a great book?



Ok, it will last forever because there might be a movie for which Shore will do another score in the same vein? Does that mean it stands less of a chance at enduring if THE HOBBIT is not made, or made with another person holding the baton?



Who cares how many artists were involved? There was a 110-sized orchestra on Mi3 last year, and hardly anyone's talking about it now. Meanwhile Anton Karas plays one tune on a zither for THE THIRD MAN 60 years ago, and the average person probably knows it. Go figure.

And as for how many releases it got - what the hell's that got to do with anything? That's a record company's shrew licensing there! Most of the editions of each score were promotional variations on each other with trading cards and different covers desperately trying to set them apart.

If it endures, let it endure for the right reason. The music's too good for all that.

Please feel free to be considered my personal hero for that one. Screw those funcushers!!!

Well, re: THE HOBBIT, unless you know something more than the vibes Peter Jackson is sending through his sympathetic press contacts this week, I reckon we don't know even if HE will make it for sure. And if he does, will he absolutely positively return to Shore if a KING KONG-like post-production press forces him to get more music than ever in a space of time quicker than Shore can write it?



Well, I reckon it's got about as much to do with all that as it has to do with tea in China. It could have been done in 2 months, with half the orchestra doubling via engineering, and the result would be the same, which is all anyone cares about.

You want a real reason why they might be enduring in 50 years? If there is not an overwhelming surge of strong film music that distracts people... then that would play more of a role than anything else. As Marx said of John Stuart Mill: 'He seems like a hill, because of the flatness of the surrounding terrain.' A few mountains might make it seem less with time, but if it's all downhill from here, 'Use Well the Days' may well sound like the Golden Age of film music.

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I guess the first step in proving my point has been made.

I will admit that producing is not directing, but Jackson´s love and enthusiasm for the material will prevail.

Well, he did it. He just didn't do a good job on it (that is, if we're really talking Troy here). So, as far as I'm concerned, only James and some other people did it.

1) Horner can possibly do it, but not on the same level as JNH IF JNH has a good day. Or two good weeks (which is all he needs).

2) It depends. If Jackson is a restrictive producer in the way Bruckheimer is, he might insist on a certain crew, and I doubt they will choose somebody who would go against Jackson´s preferred creative style. But yeah, it is possible we´ll get a different composer, but I would guess chances for Shore returning are at 95%.

Who says Peter Jackson doesn't want Shore to return? He loved his work on the Lord of the Rings films, they just had creative differences on King Kong! I'm even 100% confident he'll return on The Hobbit, and Jackson will ask him personally!

You have won this battle, Ralph, but not the war. See you in 50 years for the final outcome.

Well that's what i am talking about, TROY. Although he had 80% of the score ready from Yared (the bulgarian choirs, the same vocalist etc) he still delivered a hell of a score - granted the extremely short period he had to compose it in.

Considered he did a hell of a job on the brilliant documentary-like Looking for Richard, let's hope for something equally thrilling

It's now set in stone: Guillermo del Toro will direct both Hobbit films for MGM and New Line Cinema, with Warner Brothers distributing domestically and MGM handling international duties.

And I think it is definitely a given that Howard Shore will score the film, considering that del Toro commented on the Hellboy II forums late last week regarding his involvement with the prequels and that he wasn't locked in yet. He said something along the lines of that should he devote the next 4 years to do the prequels, he would heavily immerse himself in "the biggest making-of ever", such as watching the dailies of FOTR and ROTK and making sure that both visually and film-wise the prequels fit seamlessly into the trilogy. Which means most of the same cast, production team, and composer. (And close consultation with Jackson, Boyens and Walsh.)