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- CommentAuthorAtham
- CommentTimeFeb 25th 2009
Timmer wrote
Atham wrote
Grimble Gromble wrote
The Trouble With Angels - Jerry Goldsmith
It's playful and emotional.
And desperately in need of a deluxe, complete and remastered score release!!!
This is one of Goldsmith's 60's efforts I'm not big on, it's pleasent enough but I wouldn't personally rush to get it.
Or is there greatness in the film unreleased on album?
( I tried to watch it once )
"is there greatness in the film unreleased on album?" Good question!
Indeed there is. At least two cues not heard on the album.
I recall one scene where one of the nuns passes away and it's backed by a truly moving piece of scoring by Goldsmith.
I remember watching it as a teenager and my dad commented on how beautiful the music was.
Yes, there are some goofy sixties comedy scoring within the soundtrack but it's evened out by the wonderful quasi-religious/emotional moments that Goldsmith nailed so well.
Hence a complete score release is needed! -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeFeb 25th 2009
Martijn wrote
Marselus wrote
Martijn wrote
Hmmmm...maybe I could take up killing people?
Killing people (in videogames) is your best option. Trust me.
Whoah!
How did that one come full circle on me?
Anyway, NP: The Man With The Golden Arm - Elmer Bernstein
One of the greates jazz anthems EVER. What a fantastic score.
This one really cries for a rerecording in stereo, though. The mono sound (and amaizngly poor recording quality) seriously detract from what may very weln be the best jazz score ever written.
And yes, I'll go to bat on that one!
'The best jazz score ever written?' Obviously debateable but it IS a fantastic score and I agree with you 100% on a rerecording. I may well have to give this a spin later!?On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorMartijn
- CommentTimeFeb 25th 2009
Timmer wrote
Obviously debateable
Yeah, it is.
It's just that fookin' unbelievable theme that gets me into this state of overenthusiasm.'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeFeb 25th 2009
The Prague version is a fine rendition. -
- CommentAuthorAtham
- CommentTimeFeb 25th 2009
Back to The Trouble With Angels, here is the scene with Goldsmith's touching score.
Unfortunately the beautiful sting moment gets cut off at the end on YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXBnwkCKS3k -
- CommentAuthorMartijn
- CommentTimeFeb 25th 2009
Steven wrote
The Prague version is a fine rendition.
Eh?
'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeFeb 25th 2009
Martijn wrote
Timmer wrote
Obviously debateable
Yeah, it is.
It's just that fookin' unbelievable theme that gets me into this state of overenthusiasm.
Nothing wrong with that, in fact it's while actually listening to something and being euphorically overcome by that greatness that leads to overenthusiasm to an extent where you must shout it out for all board members to hear!
We've all been there ( D more than most
)On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeFeb 25th 2009
Martijn wrote
Steven wrote
The Prague version is a fine rendition.
Eh?
The Bernstein.
Steven
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- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeFeb 25th 2009
Atham wrote
Back to The Trouble With Angels, here is the scene with Goldsmith's touching score.
Unfortunately the beautiful sting moment gets cut off at the end on YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXBnwkCKS3k
That is a lovely bit of scoring! I probably remember too much of the "pop" elements of the score.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeFeb 25th 2009
Steven wrote
DreamTheater wrote
To conclude the epicness:
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (Howard Shore) (regular album)
However much I love it, this is surprisingly my least favourite from the three, Shore nails the brilliance at many times, but overall this score is too dark for me to completely lose myself into.
You sure don't like anything dark do you!
I think that was more of a reaction to the album than the score... at least that how I interpreted it. I love the presentation of the Fellowship and Two Towers original albums but the Return of the King single disc release doesn't do the score justice. If I'm not mistaken Shore purposely left off a lot of the battle material to concentrate more on the dramatic material. A big mistake, IMHO. It's not a very well rounded album. Thank goodness for the complete release. It really showcases how incredible the final score truly is.
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorMartijn
- CommentTimeFeb 25th 2009 edited
Steven wrote
Martijn wrote
Steven wrote
The Prague version is a fine rendition.
Eh?
The Bernstein.
Steven
I'm getting confused now.
There IS a re-recording?
Or is that just the main theme?'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorSteven
- CommentTimeFeb 25th 2009
Martijn wrote
Steven wrote
Martijn wrote
Steven wrote
The Prague version is a fine rendition.
Eh?
The Bernstein.
Steven
I'm getting confused now.
There IS a re-recording?
Or is that just the main theme?
Just the main theme on the "Essential Bernstein Film Music" compilation by Prague. Great album! -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeFeb 25th 2009
Steven wrote
Martijn wrote
Steven wrote
Martijn wrote
Steven wrote
The Prague version is a fine rendition.
Eh?
The Bernstein.
Steven
I'm getting confused now.
There IS a re-recording?
Or is that just the main theme?
Just the main theme on the "Essential Bernstein Film Music" compilation by Prague. Great album!
I gotta second this recommendation, it's a 2 CD set that contains suites as well as themes including An American Werewolf In London.
Very good.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeFeb 25th 2009
Steven wrote
Martijn wrote
Steven wrote
Martijn wrote
Steven wrote
The Prague version is a fine rendition.
Eh?
The Bernstein.
Steven
I'm getting confused now.
There IS a re-recording?
Or is that just the main theme?
Just the main theme on the "Essential Bernstein Film Music" compilation by Prague. Great album!
There is also a better version on an album called Jazz In Film performed by the National Youth Orchestra. It's much tighter recording but a little slower in pace.
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorMartijn
- CommentTimeFeb 25th 2009
Yeah, I have those versions.
Thanks guys.
And while it's good (nay, essential!) that the main theme should be preserved like this, I was really talking about a rerecording of the score in its entirety.'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorGrimble Gromble
- CommentTimeFeb 25th 2009 edited
Timmer wrote
Atham wrote
Grimble Gromble wrote
The Trouble With Angels - Jerry Goldsmith
It's playful and emotional.
And desperately in need of a deluxe, complete and remastered score release!!!
This is one of Goldsmith's 60's efforts I'm not big on, it's pleasent enough but I wouldn't personally rush to get it.
Or is there greatness in the film unreleased on album?
( I tried to watch it once )
Just more variations on the main themes really. The variation played during the wake of one of the sisters is rather touching. The strings almost bring a tear to my eye. I think the movie is pretty good.I'm your Piper at the gates of dawn. -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeFeb 25th 2009
Talking of "pop" Goldsmith tempted me to play this old favourite.....
NP : OUR MAN FLINT - Jerry Goldsmith
Exceptionally enjoyable
On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeFeb 25th 2009
Timmer wrote
Talking of "pop" Goldsmith tempted me to play this old favourite.....
NP : OUR MAN FLINT - Jerry Goldsmith
Exceptionally enjoyable
Leaving it on to continue into....
NP : IN LIKE FLINT - Jerry Goldsmith
Though these original scores are fun I farrrrrrrrr prefer the re-recordings that Goldsmith did.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorDreamTheater
- CommentTimeFeb 25th 2009
Erik Woods wrote
Steven wrote
DreamTheater wrote
To conclude the epicness:
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (Howard Shore) (regular album)
However much I love it, this is surprisingly my least favourite from the three, Shore nails the brilliance at many times, but overall this score is too dark for me to completely lose myself into.
You sure don't like anything dark do you!
I think that was more of a reaction to the album than the score... at least that how I interpreted it. I love the presentation of the Fellowship and Two Towers original albums but the Return of the King single disc release doesn't do the score justice. If I'm not mistaken Shore purposely left off a lot of the battle material to concentrate more on the dramatic material. A big mistake, IMHO. It's not a very well rounded album. Thank goodness for the complete release. It really showcases how incredible the final score truly is.
-Erik-
I think you're right Erik. Having only heard the first two complete recordings I'm not sure how much is missing from the third one. My brother always said the third had the most missing material, so in a way the regular album is uneven, and therefor slightly disappointing for me. I should really listen to the complete and then give an honest opinion. I was stating my feelings about the shorter album, dark or not, as it didn't give me the same 'HOLY SHIT' feeling as TFOTR and TTT gave. But it's still a nice enough album."considering I've seen an enormous debate here about The Amazing Spider-Man and the ones who love it, and the ones who hate it, I feel myself obliged to say: TASTE DIFFERS, DEAL WITH IT" - Thomas G. -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeFeb 25th 2009
Timmer wrote
Timmer wrote
Talking of "pop" Goldsmith tempted me to play this old favourite.....
NP : OUR MAN FLINT - Jerry Goldsmith
Exceptionally enjoyable
Leaving it on to continue into....
NP : IN LIKE FLINT - Jerry Goldsmith
Though these original scores are fun I farrrrrrrrr prefer the re-recordings that Goldsmith did.
Were they ever put out on CD? -
- CommentAuthorSouthall
- CommentTimeFeb 25th 2009
DreamTheater wrote
I think you're right Erik. Having only heard the first two complete recordings I'm not sure how much is missing from the third one. My brother always said the third had the most missing material, so in a way the regular album is uneven, and therefor slightly disappointing for me. I should really listen to the complete and then give an honest opinion. I was stating my feelings about the shorter album, dark or not, as it didn't give me the same 'HOLY SHIT' feeling as TFOTR and TTT gave. But it's still a nice enough album.
I'm the other way around! The ROTK "short" album is easily my favourite of the three. I've never been able to get through the complete set (I tried twice and then gave up, and I will never try again - it's just too long) but the "short" album (which is actually very long indeed) I have listened to a lot more often than those from the other two films. -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeFeb 25th 2009
Southall wrote
Timmer wrote
Timmer wrote
Talking of "pop" Goldsmith tempted me to play this old favourite.....
NP : OUR MAN FLINT - Jerry Goldsmith
Exceptionally enjoyable
Leaving it on to continue into....
NP : IN LIKE FLINT - Jerry Goldsmith
Though these original scores are fun I farrrrrrrrr prefer the re-recordings that Goldsmith did.
Were they ever put out on CD?
I don't know? I have CDR's made from my own vinyl albums but remastered releases would be a must for me.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentAuthorkeky
- CommentTimeFeb 25th 2009
Southall wrote
DreamTheater wrote
I think you're right Erik. Having only heard the first two complete recordings I'm not sure how much is missing from the third one. My brother always said the third had the most missing material, so in a way the regular album is uneven, and therefor slightly disappointing for me. I should really listen to the complete and then give an honest opinion. I was stating my feelings about the shorter album, dark or not, as it didn't give me the same 'HOLY SHIT' feeling as TFOTR and TTT gave. But it's still a nice enough album.
I'm the other way around! The ROTK "short" album is easily my favourite of the three. I've never been able to get through the complete set (I tried twice and then gave up, and I will never try again - it's just too long) but the "short" album (which is actually very long indeed) I have listened to a lot more often than those from the other two films.
I'm with you James! And I know that it is not a popular view in film music fan circles but I honestly think that the original albums are more than long enough. The LOTR trilogy happens to be one of those scores that I just cannot really come to love... OK, now cast those stones on me! -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeFeb 25th 2009
Steven wrote
Martijn wrote
We could see Justin perform live.
Christ, what I wouldn't give...
That'd mean the end of this forum.
Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeFeb 25th 2009
DreamTheater wrote
Steven wrote
DreamTheater wrote
To conclude the epicness:
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (Howard Shore) (regular album)
However much I love it, this is surprisingly my least favourite from the three, Shore nails the brilliance at many times, but overall this score is too dark for me to completely lose myself into.
You sure don't like anything dark do you!
I've always been attracted to the light. Darkness is depressing. I'm too much depressive already.
However, dark Goldenthal is entirely up my alley. If darkness is mixed with the melodic like he can, I get ecstatic.
Never been a fan of Shore for that matter... he is the god of dark.
Depends on one's characters and tastes. I am not an emo, obviously ( :P) But God do i prefer dark massive scores and melancholic string driven listens, USUALLY, over fluffy ones.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeFeb 25th 2009
Southall wrote
DreamTheater wrote
I think you're right Erik. Having only heard the first two complete recordings I'm not sure how much is missing from the third one. My brother always said the third had the most missing material, so in a way the regular album is uneven, and therefor slightly disappointing for me. I should really listen to the complete and then give an honest opinion. I was stating my feelings about the shorter album, dark or not, as it didn't give me the same 'HOLY SHIT' feeling as TFOTR and TTT gave. But it's still a nice enough album.
I'm the other way around! The ROTK "short" album is easily my favourite of the three. I've never been able to get through the complete set (I tried twice and then gave up, and I will never try again - it's just too long) but the "short" album (which is actually very long indeed) I have listened to a lot more often than those from the other two films.
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorDemetris
- CommentTimeFeb 25th 2009
I am like that too. There's very little of those complete releases out there which i actually prefer over the official score releases on album.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorMartijn
- CommentTimeFeb 25th 2009
And me.
We should start a Thor Fan Club!'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn -
- CommentAuthorErik Woods
- CommentTimeFeb 25th 2009
Interesting because I prefer the single disc releases of Fellowship and Two Towers but there was so much great music missing from the single disc release of Return of the King that I prefer the complete recordings! Disc 3 and 4 are worth the price of the set alone! Big, epic, brilliant music! The addition of a few of those great battle cues would have really helped the single disc release.
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentAuthorMartijn
- CommentTimeFeb 25th 2009 edited
Well, to be honest, Return Of The King is my least favourite release.
Maybe I should try the complete version...though I have to say I find the prospect of having to listen to FOUR CDs quite daunting...'no passion nor excitement here, despite all the notes and musicians' ~ Falkirkbairn