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Christopher Nolan's "Inception" - SPOILERS!
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- CommentTimeJul 6th 2010 edited
It's certainly getting almost universal praise among critics so far, I hope it does equally well at the box office too. We need more films with fresh and innovative ideas like this, and less of crappy remakes and mindless CGI-fests. -
- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeJul 6th 2010
Fact: Chris Nolan has two brothers. One works in film, and the other is in jail for murder. -
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DemonStar wrote
It's certainly getting almost universal praise among critics so far, I hope it does equally well at the box office too. We need more films with fresh and innovative ideas like this, and less of crappy remakes and mindless CGI-fests.
Well, he surely is one to change that sad rule; i'd say he's one of the holdovers of the brilliant work done by the cinema masters in the past.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJul 6th 2010
Anthony wrote
Fact: Chris Nolan has two brothers. One works in film, and the other is in jail for murder.
Damn, Anthony, you could have got mileage out of that by putting it on the TRUE/FALSE thread.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentTimeJul 6th 2010
Someone over at filmtracks quoted an early review as saying that Zimmer was not allowed to see the film before scoring it. That sounds too extreme to be true. Anyone know if there is something to that?
I can't wait for this film. -
- CommentTimeJul 6th 2010
christopher wrote
Someone over at filmtracks quoted an early review as saying that Zimmer was not allowed to see the film before scoring it. That sounds too extreme to be true. Anyone know if there is something to that?
I can't wait for this film.
According to Hans, he was involved with this movie after The Dark Knight premiered. -
- CommentTimeJul 6th 2010
Christodoulides wrote
This is what captured my attention:
"A wildly entertaining and dazzling mind-trip not to be missed. Kubrick would have been proud. "
Chris Nolan really is a gifted film-maker.
Pete Hammond is a terrible film critic. He's the type of critic who gives movies glowing reviews in order to get his name in newpapers, movie trailers, etc.
-Erik-host and executive producer of THE CINEMATIC SOUND RADIO PODCAST | www.cinematicsound.net | www.facebook.com/cinematicsound | I HAVE TINNITUS! -
- CommentTimeJul 6th 2010 edited
EMPIRE is also giving it 5 stars, and this is what captured my attention:
Like The Matrix mated with Synecdoche, New York — or a Charlie Kaufman 007.
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- CommentAuthorAnthony
- CommentTimeJul 6th 2010
Where's the Empire review? Or is it just in the magazine for now? -
- CommentTimeJul 6th 2010 edited
Erik Woods wrote
Christodoulides wrote
This is what captured my attention:
"A wildly entertaining and dazzling mind-trip not to be missed. Kubrick would have been proud. "
Chris Nolan really is a gifted film-maker.
Pete Hammond is a terrible film critic. He's the type of critic who gives movies glowing reviews in order to get his name in newpapers, movie trailers, etc.
-Erik-
A-ha; so film music is not the only area this happens then
Well, good critics, bad critics; i don't need anyone to tell me who Chris Nolan is though; i truly think he's a brilliant film maker regardless.Love Maintitles. It's full of Wanders. -
- CommentTimeJul 6th 2010
Anthony wrote
Where's the Empire review? Or is it just in the magazine for now?
http://www.empireonline.com/reviews/rev … FID=136118 -
- CommentTimeJul 6th 2010
Christodoulides wrote
What really happened with the MAIN THEME / TRAILER MUSIC of "INCEPTION". A small talk with composer HANS ZIMMER on the subject.
http://scoremagacine.blogspot.com/2010/ … about.html
that's good news, because I still think the trailer music of the second teaser still beats the nice (though not great) trailer music of the theatrical final trailer, it feels just more at home when I see it with the visualswaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh -
- CommentTimeJul 24th 2010
I just came out of the theater after seeing Inception.
I liked the film and the score. After reading quite some reviews, I was expecting a very difiicult to follow dream, within dream, within dream concept.
All in all, I found it pretty straight forward to follow, with enough adrenaline rushes and suspense to keep actions fans occupied, but with some lovely softer emotional/more sombre feelings in there as well.
The music for me worked really well. It was for me a typical Zimmer score in that way that the music did jump out at me during the mowie experience. It demands its place and it gets it.
I liked the added darkness, and ominous feeling it gave to the scenes.
I'm not sure I'll go rushing to the store to buy it, but it definitely enhanced my film experience.
Come to think of it, another sort of score would probably have changed the movie for me entirely. Question? For the better or worse?
ElinRecognizing somebody else's strength doesn't diminish your own (Joss Whedon) -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeJul 25th 2010
christopher wrote
Someone over at filmtracks quoted an early review as saying that Zimmer was not allowed to see the film before scoring it. That sounds too extreme to be true. Anyone know if there is something to that?
I can't wait for this film.
That might be why the music feels like some of his strongest since The Thin Red Line... Maybe developed the themes in isolation and then in editing they were conformed to the film, with final versions recorded against the film?A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeJul 25th 2010
Yes, but there is something about The Thin Red Line, which I actually did wrong in my article. None of the pre-written music made it into the final film, actually. Zimmer rescored the whole film in post.http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentAuthorPawelStroinski
- CommentTimeJul 25th 2010
franz_conrad wrote
christopher wrote
Someone over at filmtracks quoted an early review as saying that Zimmer was not allowed to see the film before scoring it. That sounds too extreme to be true. Anyone know if there is something to that?
I can't wait for this film.
That might be why the music feels like some of his strongest since The Thin Red Line... Maybe developed the themes in isolation and then in editing they were conformed to the film, with final versions recorded against the film?
And Zimmer himself confirms it. He read the script, visited the set, but wasn't allowed to see any of the edited footage during post-production. He wrote his music to the script. When he finally saw the movie he was shocked for 3 reasons:
1. The music worked well actually.
2. Nolan used EVERYTHING he wrote, including demos (he confronted Nolan about it, but Nolan calmed him down it was right).
3. The mix was very loud.http://www.filmmusic.pl - Polish Film Music Review Website -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeJul 25th 2010
PawelStroinski wrote
Yes, but there is something about The Thin Red Line, which I actually did wrong in my article. None of the pre-written music made it into the final film, actually. Zimmer rescored the whole film in post.
However quite a few of the themes developed in that period were used in the final recording of the score. And parts of the film were later re-edited too (going on some of the music edits in the film). Scores developed this way are often better since the music relates more to the ideas than the on-screen specifics.
(The main advantage of the technique is to let the spotting of the music evolve with the film's edit.)A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeJul 25th 2010
PawelStroinski wrote
3. The mix was very loud.
Ah, so not even Zimmer could hear the dialogue clearly at times?A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentTimeJul 25th 2010
Skating_Lientje wrote
I just came out of the theater after seeing Inception.
Come to think of it, another sort of score would probably have changed the movie for me entirely. Question? For the better or worse?
I'm sure a Bear McCreary score would have changed the movie for you entirely. -
- CommentTimeJul 25th 2010
Steven wrote
Skating_Lientje wrote
I just came out of the theater after seeing Inception.
Come to think of it, another sort of score would probably have changed the movie for me entirely. Question? For the better or worse?
I'm sure a Bear McCreary score would have changed the movie for you entirely.
even though Elin is a huge fan of McCreary, she loves a good old Zimmer anyday, and considering she loved it, no such thing as a different score or composer is necessary for you to mention itwaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!! Where's my nut? arrrghhhhhhh -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeJul 25th 2010
Yeah, Steven. That was out of line!A butterfly thinks therefore I am -
- CommentTimeJul 25th 2010
Thomas Glorieux wrote
Steven wrote
Skating_Lientje wrote
I just came out of the theater after seeing Inception.
Come to think of it, another sort of score would probably have changed the movie for me entirely. Question? For the better or worse?
I'm sure a Bear McCreary score would have changed the movie for you entirely.
even though Elin is a huge fan of McCreary, she loves a good old Zimmer anyday, and considering she loved it, no such thing as a different score or composer is necessary for you to mention it
Thanks Thomas for coming to my defence .
But you know Steven, I wasn't even thinking about Bear when I made that comment.
I don't even have an idea how a Bear score could/would sound like for a movie such as Inception. But I can imagine what Philip Glass, or Clint Mansell could produce and how that would drastically change the sound and my perception of the film.
But now you have given me something to think about? What would a McCreary sound be like for a movie such as Inception, LOL.
ElinRecognizing somebody else's strength doesn't diminish your own (Joss Whedon) -
- CommentTimeJul 26th 2010
Looking forward to see this one...
We almost went this weekend but we had to cancel and pick another date. I like to watch the trailer on my laptop with the headphones on. -
- CommentTimeJul 26th 2010
it was too violent for my taste but being a bit of prude could you expect less from melisten to more classical music! -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJul 26th 2010
So Tom, your top 3 films aren't Rambo, Saw II and The Hills Have Eyes?On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentTimeJul 26th 2010
I'm more of a Maltese Falcon, Sunset Boulevard, and Odd Couple kind of a guylisten to more classical music! -
- CommentAuthorTimmer
- CommentTimeJul 26th 2010
That's all good taste in my book.On Friday I ate a lot of dust and appeared orange near the end of the day ~ Bregt -
- CommentTimeJul 26th 2010
Departed, Inception, and No Country For Old Men should have been left in the film cans IMHOlisten to more classical music! -
- CommentTimeJul 26th 2010
Thank god you don't make these decisions then! -
- CommentAuthorfranz_conrad
- CommentTimeJul 26th 2010
I can see the objection to No Country for Old Men from yourself. I for one am glad it wasn't left in the can.A butterfly thinks therefore I am